fightingsioux4life Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) With the buzz being generated by the CBS line this season, it got me to thinking about the other great forward lines in the history of this storied program. With the help of USCHO.com and the 2013-14 Men's Hockey Media Guide, I have compiled the statistics of the CBS line, along with four other potent lines from previous teams: Line/PlayerGPGoalsAssistsPointsPPG Hrkac Circus (1986-87) Tony Hrkac4846701162.42Bob Joyce485237891.85Steve Johnson482644701.46Totals481241512751.91 Line of Fire (2000-01) Jeff Panzer462655811.76Bryan Lundbohm463237691.50Ryan Bayda462534591.28Totals46831262091.51 The Money Line (2003-04) Brandon Bochenski412733601.46Zach Parise372332551.49Brady Murray371927461.24Totals3869921611.40 DOT Line (2006-07) Ryan Duncan433126571.33T.J. Oshie431735521.21Jonathan Toews341828461.35Totals4066891551.30 Pony Express (2010-11) Matt Frattin443624601.36Evan Trupp441724410.93Brad Malone431624400.93Totals4469721411.07 CBS Line (2015-16) Drake Caggiula191314271.42Nick Schmaltz20323261.30Brock Boeser20138211.05Totals202945741.26 Most of the stats here are pretty self-explanatory, but I will elaborate on a couple of points: The “Totals PPG” figure represents the average PPG of all three members of that particular line. This gives us an overall picture of how potent each line was/is based on overall production per game. The “Games Played Totals” figure is uniform for the Hrkac Circus and Line of Fire, but the other three lines had one player that didn’t play as many games as the other two players on that line. So this number represents the average number of games played for that line. I did not know how else to treat that column. Through 20 games (including tonight), the CBS line is on track to rank amongst the best lines in program history. They are approaching the productivity of the DOT line and may even make a run at The Money Line and the Line of Fire before the season is over. Edited December 13, 2015 by fightingsioux4life Forgot "Money Line" of 2003-04 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfaninseattle Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 As good as they have been, CBS will need to pick it up to get close to the Line of Fire. I can see them doing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 How could you forget the Money Line? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 How could you forget the Money Line?Whoops, my bad. I'll amend my original post to include those guys. It's hard to remember all the talent that's gone through this program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Panzer was robbed! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandforks Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 BC Connection (42 games in 78-79): Mark Taylor 24--59--83Kevin Maxwell 31--51--82Cary Eades 27--23--50 The next season: Mark Taylor 33--59--92Doug Smail 43--44--87Phil Sykes 22--27--4940g for Taylor and Smail, 37g for Sykes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 Anyone with lines I don't know about or were too young to remember, please post them here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Steve Johnson wasn't the only wing that played with Hrkac and Bob Joyce in 1986-87. Brent Bobyck played quite a few games at wing on that line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Panzer was robbed!By a goalie he beat twice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 That Hrkac Circus line still amazes me the numbers they put up. Wow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 By a goalie he beat twiceUND scored on its first shot of the game in the semis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 UND scored on its first shot of the game in the semis. Spiewak shoots...and scores! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 ""C'mon, Spiewak! This isn't the Ice Capades out there." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Good thread that will produce some interesting debate but one point about the CBS line as of right now is they are #1, #2 and #3 in the nation in +/-. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808287 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Agreed that the Taylor, Smail, Sykes line in 79-80 was a dangerous line. Doug Smail was the fastest skater in the NCAA and could bury a breakway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 It would be interesting to compare overall amount of scoring across the NCAA in the years those lines played. With those numbers, you could add a multiplier of some sort to adjust for changes in the game. I think we all believe college hockey was a different game when the Circus played, but it's just a notion, at least in my case. I'd love to do it, but I have to take out the garbage and clean the garage . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 It would be interesting to compare overall amount of scoring across the NCAA in the years those lines played. With those numbers, you could add a multiplier of some sort to adjust for changes in the game. I think we all believe college hockey was a different game when the Circus played, but it's just a notion, at least in my case. I'd love to do it, but I have to take out the garbage and clean the garage . . . what would you do with the video replay. Not saying it was done but isn't it thought that tony got an assist just for being on the ice, with the thought he must have touched the puck somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 what would you do with the video replay. Not saying it was done but isn't it thought that tony got an assist just for being on the ice, with the thought he must have touched the puck somewhere?Really? I have a hard time even reading those words. Most of his assists were THE play that made the goal happen. There's no doubt goaltending was poorer then, and as a result scoring higher, but you can't really compare eras. I do know Hrkac made more opponents look silly than anyone I've ever seen. That oughtta count for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 My vote goes to any line featuring Hextal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808287 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Really? I have a hard time even reading those words. Most of his assists were THE play that made the goal happen. There's no doubt goaltending was poorer then, and as a result scoring higher, but you can't really compare eras. I do know Hrkac made more opponents look silly than anyone I've ever seen. That oughtta count for something.I wouldn't say the goaltending was poorer, but I get what you mean. The equipment was different (smaller pads and trapper). Goalies themselves were also generally smaller (the 6'3 goalies weren't common). As a result, there was more open net to defend (and shoot at) and scoring was a little easier. Though now you can make the argument that composite sticks give shooters an advantage they didn't have back in the eighties, but I think the open net area argument holds better.And yeah, for as many goals as Hrkac had, he was THE setup man laying that biscuit on the stick of Bob Joyce just moments before it was in the net. Those two were fun to watch together. Edited December 13, 2015 by 808287 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Steve Johnson wasn't the only wing that played with Hrkac and Bob Joyce in 1986-87. Brent Bobyck played quite a few games at wing on that line.Yup. Bobyck played on that line in April I believe. Malcolm Parks played on that line for a few games also. You could've put Goon or geaux_sioux out there with Hrkac and Joyce and he'd have put a 10-20-30 season scoring line up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Someone should put together a video / movie of any & all video of the Hrkacs Circus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Someone should put together a video / movie of any & all video of the Hrkacs Circus How about all of these lines? Watch and compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFanatic Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Someone should put together a video / movie of any & all video of the Hrkacs Circus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Thanks I had forgot that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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