Non-UND FCS Thread

[UND1983]

4 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:

More than one team. Same as a few others. Less than quite a few teams that were left out. Since we aren't supposed to take strength of schedule into account, there were some 8 and 9 win teams left out.

What??

[SWSiouxMN]

6 hours ago, Rory said:

Wentz has been the talk of town in Mobile. Amazing a kid from our small state of North Dakota could possibly be the first QB picked in the 2016 NFL draft. NDSU owes him for all the free publicity. Never mind. I think he will be just fine financially in a couple months. 

I think he will be trading his Bison decal for a Star one

 

[darell1976]

4 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said:

I think he will be trading his Bison decal for a Star one

 

And with injury prone Romo he might see playing time very early in his career. 

[CMSioux]

On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 7:53 PM, londonknight said:

to make the tourny, win games.

 

No..you can actually lose more games and still make it if you have the right committe members on your side.

[Cratter]

Looks like a down year for the draft.

[geaux_sioux]

3 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Looks like a down year for the draft.

Not really. There are some great players eligible.

[Cratter]

12 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Not really. There are some great players eligible.

Are they underclass men?

[geaux_sioux]

9 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Are they underclass men?

Some are. Just becaus Wentz is a top prospect doesn't mean this class sucks. He's got everything that makes scouts drool.

[fightingsioux4life]

55 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Some are. Just becaus Wentz is a top prospect doesn't mean this class sucks. He's got everything that makes scouts drool.

So did JaMarcus Russell and we all know how well that worked out for Commitment to Excrement.

[geaux_sioux]

11 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

So did JaMarcus Russell and we all know how well that worked out for Commitment to Excrement.

He actually didn't. He was just huge with one of the strongest arms ever.

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, geaux_sioux said:

He actually didn't. He was just huge with one of the strongest arms ever.

Then perhaps you can blame it on Al Davis; he lost his touch in his later years with his drafting skills.

[geaux_sioux]

5 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Then perhaps you can blame it on Al Davis; he lost his touch in his later years with his drafting skills.

I think Russel opened some eyes in the scouting process that a huge arm is pretty far down the list of attributes for success at qb.

[nd1sufan]

18 hours ago, UND1983 said:

What??

I am saying if you look at records of FCS teams from this year, there were some teams left out that had 8 and 9 wins, which were more than UND had. UND fans seem to be fixated on only the number of wins and not the quality of opponents. 

[UND1983]

4 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:

I am saying if you look at records of FCS teams from this year, there were some teams left out that had 8 and 9 wins, which were more than UND had. UND fans seem to be fixated on only the number of wins and not the quality of opponents. 

That's not the winning argument, bro.  We got that one too.

[UNDBIZ]

I didn't get to watch the senior bowl, surprised we haven't had more posts on it here. How did Wentz look? 

[bison73]

1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said:

I didn't get to watch the senior bowl, surprised we haven't had more posts on it here. How did Wentz look? 

Wentz looked ok. I think he was 6-10 with a couple of really bad receiver drops. Plus he was under pressure pretty much the whole time due to the south D was killing the norths O-line.  Everything I have read after the game said the game was kind of an anticlimax after the week of practice and all of the hype and the scouts-teams had seen everthing they needed before game time..  

 

Hes projected as a top 10-15 pick with speculation of the top 5.   But theres a lot of time before the draft and combine.

[Cratter]

Being the top senior in all of college football and as said all the hype, Wentz looked pretty average. He fumbled the ball on his last play. 

All his passes were short drop passes, with one being twenty or so yards to a wide open receiver. 

His team had trouble moving the ball (of course not wentz's fault).

[geaux_sioux]

2 hours ago, Cratter said:

Being the top senior in all of college football and as said all the hype, Wentz looked pretty average. He fumbled the ball on his last play. 

All his passes were short drop passes, with one being twenty or so yards to a wide open receiver. 

His team had trouble moving the ball (of course not wentz's fault).

You really need to stop posting about him of you can't do it without bias.

He did what he was asked to do. He was essentially 9-10. He showed his wheels. The senior bowl is more about the practices and he completely killed it. The game at the senior bowl is not for the QBs, they only get one quarter, everyone else gets the whole game.

Wentz is a ND kid and we wanted him bad. He's got a great future and we should all be proud of him regardless of how much pub he's getting for NDSU. Good for him. I hope he goes #1 overall and in an all pro.

[Cratter]

45 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

You really need to stop posting about him of you can't do it without bias.

Ok dad. 

He looked average. Ok, Maybe I should have said looked "Ok." Ok is average in my book. I guess that might be a "bias" not a bias that isn't alone. 

3 hours ago, bison73 said:

Wentz looked ok.

Most of his passes were short yard passes. No bias 

He fumbled the ball on his last play. No bias. 

His team had trouble moving the ball. "Moving the ball" is arbitrary, might be some bias there. 

Never did I say anything about he didn't do what was asked of him. Never did I say he wouldn't be the first QB drafted (I hope he goes to the Cowboys at #4). 

Your bias might be projecting a bias. 

Someone asked a question and I answered it.

Signed, your son. 

[darell1976]

1 hour ago, Cratter said:

Ok dad. 

He looked average. Ok, Maybe I should have said looked "Ok." Ok is average in my book. I guess that might be a "bias" not a bias that isn't alone. 

Most of his passes were short yard passes. No bias 

He fumbled the ball on his last play. No bias. 

His team had trouble moving the ball. "Moving the ball" is arbitrary, might be some bias there. 

Never did I say anything about he didn't do what was asked of him. Never did I say he wouldn't be the first QB drafted (I hope he goes to the Cowboys at #4). 

Your bias might be projecting a bias. 

Someone asked a question and I answered it.

Signed, your son. 

I didn't see the game, did he look "average" because he was facing FBS competition? Or was it because he wasn't in the Fargodome? People thought Brock Jensen was the bomb too and look where he is...Omaha in a league that's not on anyone's radar. I would like to see how Wentz does in preseason if he is the next Joe Flacco (FCS reference) or if he is the next Brock Jensen (all hype and nothing to show for it).

[senor_sieve]

4 hours ago, darell1976 said:

I didn't see the game, did he look "average" because he was facing FBS competition? Or was it because he wasn't in the Fargodome? People thought Brock Jensen was the bomb too and look where he is...Omaha in a league that's not on anyone's radar. I would like to see how Wentz does in preseason if he is the next Joe Flacco (FCS reference) or if he is the next Brock Jensen (all hype and nothing to show for it).

there's all sorts of film from the game floating around the internet, why don't you draw your own conclusion instead of getting one from somebody else? I'll help you Senior Bowl Highlights. 

 

and Brock Jensen plays in the CFL for Ottawa. Try to keep up

[darell1976]

29 minutes ago, senor_sieve said:

there's all sorts of film from the game floating around the internet, why don't you draw your own conclusion instead of getting one from somebody else? I'll help you Senior Bowl Highlights. 

 

and Brock Jensen plays in the CFL for Ottawa. Try to keep up

Sorry I don't follow every move of Bison players. I now see he is the 3rd string QB for Ottawa. I guess that counts for something and you Bison fans should be proud. For me I could care less about him, and if i want to ask a fellow UND fan on a UND board about someone that's my choice on this UND board.

[nd1sufan]

5 hours ago, darell1976 said:

I didn't see the game, did he look "average" because he was facing FBS competition? Or was it because he wasn't in the Fargodome? People thought Brock Jensen was the bomb too and look where he is...Omaha in a league that's not on anyone's radar. I would like to see how Wentz does in preseason if he is the next Joe Flacco (FCS reference) or if he is the next Brock Jensen (all hype and nothing to show for it).

He made a throw on the sidelines 15 yards downfield frow the opposite hash on a line right on the money in a tight window in the only place it could have been placed and his receiver dropped it. That was a throw not many QB's at any level can make. That is why scouts are drooling over him. 

Maybe you should ask one of your better defensive players that was actually on the field with Wentz this year about his opinion about Wentz. Cole Reyes came away from that game pretty impressed with Wentz if I remember correctly. Or maybe you put more trust in Cratters unbiased opinion than someone that actually plays the game and has some football knowledge. 

 

[geaux_sioux]

7 hours ago, Cratter said:

Ok dad. 

He looked average. Ok, Maybe I should have said looked "Ok." Ok is average in my book. I guess that might be a "bias" not a bias that isn't alone. 

Most of his passes were short yard passes. No bias 

He fumbled the ball on his last play. No bias. 

His team had trouble moving the ball. "Moving the ball" is arbitrary, might be some bias there. 

Never did I say anything about he didn't do what was asked of him. Never did I say he wouldn't be the first QB drafted (I hope he goes to the Cowboys at #4). 

Your bias might be projecting a bias. 

Someone asked a question and I answered it.

Signed, your son. 

Well I guess I'm going to have to put you in a time out for your ignorance. During that time out you can read what Mayock and other people who evaluate football players for a living thought of Wentz not only in the one quarter of an all star game but in the three practices. 

[nd1sufan]

2 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Well I guess I'm going to have to put you in a time out for your ignorance. During that time out you can read what Mayock and other people who evaluate football players for a living thought of Wentz not only in the one quarter of an all star game but in the three practices. 

But that is only because all of the other QB's coming out this year suck, so in comparison, Wentz looks good. I'm sure if you ask Cratter or Darrell, if Studsrud was coming out this year he would be the Belle of the Ball too.  If this was a good year for QB's, Wentz wouldn't have the size, intelligence, and leadership qualities NFL teams are looking for nd his arm wouldn't be a strong or accurate. 

Believe it or not, NFL scouts know what they are looking for in a QB. There have actually been down years for QB's when none have been selected in the 1st round and other years when the first QB has gone in the latter half of the 1st round.