UNDBIZ Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Sports sponsored by Big Sky:Men'sFootballMBBGolfTennisT&FCCWomen'sWBBGolfSoccerSoftballTennisT&FCCVolleyballUND Sports not sponsored by Big SkyMHWHBaseballM S&DW S&DMmm, that looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 UND Sports not sponsored by Big SkyMHWHBaseballM S&DW S&DSo it would seem that our choices are limited to the four bolded sports above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csonked Out Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Let's be honest, Womens hockey is probably not going anywhere. Yes it is a massive money pit for the University, but it is a nationally recognized program in a hockey crazy town. I would still like to see Womens soccer cut, but it may very well be the Mens and Womens swimming and diving programs. They effecitively cancel eachother out for title IX issues, and it is a program that a lot of schools in the upper midwest dont offer. Will be interesting to see what they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Not advocating it, but just throwing it out there.....Sports sponsored by the Summit League:Men'sMBBBaseballCross CountryGolfIndoor/Outdoor Track and FieldTennisSwimming and Diving Women'sWBBVolleyballSoftballSoccerCross CountryGolf Indoor/Outdoor Track and FieldTennisSwimming and Diving UND Sports not sponsoredM Hockey (NCHC)W Hockey (WCHA)Football (Big Sky affiliate or MVFC?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'd just like to announce I am now also offering full cost of attendance. Seems like the hip thing to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Earlier, when NDSU announced FCOA, it was speculated by others that NDSU was looking to go FBS.Isn't that the same for UND?If we go fbs, the only sports that can be cut are baseball and M swimming because of Title IX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Not advocating it, but just throwing it out there.....Sports sponsored by the Summit League:Correct me if I'm wrong, but not all of the sports sponsored by the Summit are actually required core sports, correct? I think softball would be the only non-required one in the Big Sky off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csonked Out Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Not advocating it, but just throwing it out there.....Sports sponsored by the Summit League:Men'sMBBBaseballCross CountryGolfIndoor/Outdoor Track and FieldTennisSwimming and Diving Women'sWBBVolleyballSoftballSoccerCross CountryGolf Indoor/Outdoor Track and FieldTennisSwimming and Diving UND Sports not sponsoredM Hockey (NCHC)W Hockey (WCHA)Football (Big Sky affiliate or MVFC?) We are not switching to a lower level conference because of this. It will come from a couple sports being discontinued( which probably should have happened regardless) and donations from alumni which they probably have in hand before this announcement was ever made. I am surprised they were able to secure funding so fast but am thrilled that they are going to be a leader in this and not fall further behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Correct me if I'm wrong, but not all of the sports sponsored by the Summit are actually required core sports, correct? I think softball would be the only non-required one in the Big Sky off the top of my head.They are NOT all required by the conference, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 We are not switching to a lower level conference because of this. It will come from a couple sports being discontinued( which probably should have happened regardless) and donations from alumni which they probably have in hand before this announcement was ever made. I am surprised they were able to secure funding so fast but am thrilled that they are going to be a leader in this and not fall further behind.I'd prefer to stay Big Sky as well. Only reason I mention it is SFI pointed out reducing travel costs may be an option. Reducing travel costs may prove difficult in the BSC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I don't see baseball being cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I upped my donation just now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csonked Out Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'd prefer to stay Big Sky as well. Only reason I mention it is SFI pointed out reducing travel costs may be an option. Reducing travel costs may prove difficult in the BSC.That just proves as backwards thinking and not something Faison would do. I mean why offer this new incentive and be a leader with this just to drop to a lower conference. Maybe he is truly thinking of dropping womens hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Champion Club increases will be the #1 funding source. The Midco contract is up after the 2016-2017 season and it pays $250,000 next year which is the max of the 5 year deal. What does the next TV contract look like? How much money is generated from that deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Roughriders Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I would much rather have UND join the Summit and move Football to the MVFC than to stay in the big sky. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I would much rather have UND join the Summit and move Football to the MVFC than to stay in the big sky. The MVFC is solid; the Slummit is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 So what is a bigger draw for recruits, fcoa, or a new ipf? I think we all know the answer to that one.So UND is now offering FCOA. Did NDSU build a new IPF since last week? I think we all know the answer to that one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I believe swimming & diving will be the first sport on the chopping block. No offense to these athletes but I can't imagine thee sport brings a lot to the university. As someone pointed out above you dont have to worry much about title 9 here because both men and women will be cut. The pool is also aging and would need a lot of money to upgrade or build new. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoHawks! Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 So UND is now offering FCOA. Did NDSU build a new IPF since last week? I think we all know the answer to that one.UND becomes 3rd FCS school to offer FCOA. Brand new HUGE indoor practice facility. Two GIGANTIC recruiting tools right there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I believe swimming & diving will be the first sport on the chopping block. No offense to these athletes but I can't imagine thee sport brings a lot to the university. As someone pointed out above you dont have to worry much about title 9 here because both men and women will be cut. The pool is also aging and would need a lot of money to upgrade or build new.If I were betting/guessing I'd say this is a pretty good take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Regarding the pool aging, do you think UND will close down the pool? It's used by more than just the swim teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the green team Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I could see the possibility of Men's Swimming being on the block, while Women's stays. Again, I'm just thinking it will be tough to get to the ratio needed for Title IX complicity, by cutting any women's sports. Football, as much has been discussed still counts 100%, that I'm aware of or maybe not. (I may need correction or direction on this). So the only way to get to where they need to go, if they are indeed looking at sports needing to be reduced is on the men's side of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I could see the possibility of Men's Swimming being on the block, while Women's stays. Again, I'm just thinking it will be tough to get to the ratio needed for Title IX complicity, by cutting any women's sports. Football, as much has been discussed still counts 100%, that I'm aware of or maybe not. (I may need correction or direction on this). So the only way to get to where they need to go, if they are indeed looking at sports needing to be reduced is on the men's side of things.I was under the impression UND currently spends substantially more on women's sports than it needs to for title 9. That UND has a higher male population, but allocates more funding to women's sports. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I don't know the exact Title IX position UND is in, but scholarship wise, but from what I can tell, UND offered 5 men's S&D scholarships and 11.82 on the women's side. Baseball was at 6.34 and women's hockey was at 18.Ballpark, the S&D teams operating expenses were $314K for men and $452K for women (though I think that includes scholarship costs). Total of $766K.Baseball was around $513K.Women's hockey was a lot...Take these with a grain of salt as they are not all "real" costs as far as I can tell so cutting them doesn't mean that there would be an actual dollar to go towards something else. That being said, there is some merit to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 http://skylinesportsmt.com/und-becomes-first-big-sky-school-to-offer-fcoa/ MSU, UM and EWU reaction to fcoa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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