Tolna Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Mama Sue said: Well it appears this made the paper the DAY AFTER it was reported... obviously Bubba publicly came clean and should be considered a ROLE MODEL. Give me a break. Read what I have posted throughout this thread. I never once argued about the posting of it or the time of it. I am discussing that both programs have had issues with players taking illegal things.
UND1983 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Tolna said: Give me a break. Read what I have posted throughout this thread. I never once argued about the posting of it or the time of it. I am discussing that both programs have had issues with players taking illegal things. Who ever said that the two programs didn't have their own issues? 1
bison73 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 11 hours ago, petey23 said: No one cheated in D2 better than North Alabama. They are FCS now and probably don't have as much money tied up in Scholarships now as they did from 93-95 My comment was in regards to not allowing media access to a negative story. If that were true Mcfeely would have been gone along time ago.
bison73 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 5 hours ago, FlinFlan80 said: Just like you can get a script for performance enhancing drugs for the weight room? Oh wait.......... Something you are familiar with I take it? I yield the floor to the expert on PEDs and how to acquire them..This is out of my wheel house.
FlinFlan80 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, bison73 said: Something you are familiar with I take it? Well I don't know many doctors you can walk in to "Ya I need something to help my numbers in the weight room, so I can perform better on Saturday. Can you help me doc?" I do know that about half of the population these days are on anti anxiety, anti-depressants, ADHD meds, ADD meds, etc. How do you get anything illegal? You know the right people who can get you the right things. Those are the facts man. Maybe in 1973 things were different.
The Sicatoka Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, FlinFlan80 said: " ... so I can perform better on Saturday. Can you help me doc?" Well, um, there is something for that. 1
Mama Sue Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Tolna said: Give me a break. Read what I have posted throughout this thread. I never once argued about the posting of it or the time of it. I am discussing that both programs have had issues with players taking illegal things. But you have consistently not addressed the timeframe of reporting.... that was MY point. It appears this was at best some type of cover up. The new would not have been your national titles. The news would have been a specific player.
The Sicatoka Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Mama Sue said: But you have consistently not addressed the timeframe of reporting.... How does the suspension, the missing from the team because he didn't travel to the game site, as in hasn't been there for media day and other activities for three days, so there has to be a 'where is he?' factor, of the starting fullback of a power run offense in a national title game not get reported until minutes before kickoff? And when it does first get into the media it's a tweet by someone not normally on the NDSU football news beat.
Bison06 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 58 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: How does the suspension, the missing from the team because he didn't travel to the game site, as in hasn't been there for media day and other activities for three days, so there has to be a 'where is he?' factor, of the starting fullback of a power run offense in a national title game not get reported until minutes before kickoff? And when it does first get into the media it's a tweet by someone not normally on the NDSU football news beat. I’m not sure what timeline you’re working off, but it was first addressed as far as I know the day before the game by coach klieman at the press conference. I don’t remember his exact words, but he definitely brought it up and was very clear as to why he didn’t make the trip.
The Sicatoka Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bison06 said: I’m not sure what timeline you’re working off, but it was first addressed as far as I know the day before the game by coach klieman at the press conference. I don’t remember his exact words, but he definitely brought it up and was very clear as to why he didn’t make the trip. To my knowledge the first source reporting that was a media tweet just prior to kickoff. A Google search only shows stories newer than that tweet. Can you show me a media report dated January 4, 2019 reporting what was said at Klieman's presser? I'm willing to be wrong if you can provide a link. 1
Bison06 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: To my knowledge the first source reporting that was a media tweet just prior to kickoff. Can you show me a media report dated January 4, 2019 reporting what was said at Klieman's presser? I’ll look.
The Sicatoka Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Here's interesting: Beth 'KVLY' Hoole knew on "Wednesday" about the suspension. Given her tweet was January 7, the 'Wednesday' in question must be January 2, three days before the championship. It should be pretty easy to find her KVLY story about it somewhere from January 2 to January 4.
homer Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Here's interesting: Beth 'KVLY' Hoole knew on "Wednesday" about the suspension. Given her tweet was January 7, the 'Wednesday' in question must be January 2, three days before the championship. It should be pretty easy to find her KVLY story about it somewhere from January 2 to January 4. I’m guessing the local channel for NDSU would report all Bison news right? RIGHT???
The Sicatoka Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Admittedly I had it on 2x speed and kept pushing the slider bar forward, but I heard a question about their "first game this year on grass" didn't hear a Robbins question. Did I miss it? PS - Last question at the presser? Beth Hoole, KVLY; but it wasn't about Robbins. Can't make that up. 1
Bison06 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Admittedly I had it on 2x speed and kept pushing the slider bar forward, but I heard a question about their "first game this year on grass" didn't hear a Robbins question. Did I miss it? PS - Last question at the presser? Beth Hoole, KVLY; but it wasn't about Robbins. Can't make that up. Hmm, you’re right. I’ll have to look through other press conferences from earlier maybe. I definitely heard coach klieman address it before Saturday, I just can’t remember when. I’ll keep looking.
Siouxphan27 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Hmm, you’re right. I’ll have to look through other press conferences from earlier maybe. I definitely heard coach klieman address it before Saturday, I just can’t remember when. I’ll keep looking. Maybe you heard it at the annual Bob Entzion After Dark Party in the Park. 1
Bison06 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Maybe you heard it at the annual Bob Entzion After Dark Party in the Park. I’m sure that gets a lot of laughs in circles you run in.
homer Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 36 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Hmm, you’re right. I’ll have to look through other press conferences from earlier maybe. I definitely heard coach klieman address it before Saturday, I just can’t remember when. I’ll keep looking. You would think there would be a post about him not playing in b’ville prior to the game if coach mentioned it or something in the media about a starter missing a game of a coach brought it up in a press conference. Weird 1
petey23 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 4 hours ago, bison73 said: My comment was in regards to not allowing media access to a negative story. If that were true Mcfeely would have been gone along time ago. True. I was referring to this https://www.apnews.com/4075df4f277db80044e29e95543482a3 I believe D2 was at 37 scholarships back then and I remember hearing and/or reading that UNA had the equivalent of 80+ with what they were pulling in their financial aid office/athletic department. Just remember those years as UND had finally turned the corner and beat NDSU and had teams capable of winning the national title in 93 and 94 and we had the kitty litter/rainstorm game at IUP with an open turf field 20 minutes away against IUP in the semi finals and then the next year we get beat by UNA in the semi finals who had about 40 extra scholarship players....
The Sicatoka Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Bison06 said: Hmm, you’re right. I get that a lot. 1
bison73 Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Mama Sue said: But you have consistently not addressed the timeframe of reporting.... that was MY point. It appears this was at best some type of cover up. The new would not have been your national titles. The news would have been a specific player. Is this important to you? If so why.
The Sicatoka Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, bison73 said: Is this important to you? If so why. She had NDSU and was giving points. Knowledge of no starting FB could've changed the spread and changed her outlay. 3
bison73 Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 56 minutes ago, petey23 said: True. I was referring to this https://www.apnews.com/4075df4f277db80044e29e95543482a3 I believe D2 was at 37 scholarships back then and I remember hearing and/or reading that UNA had the equivalent of 80+ with what they were pulling in their financial aid office/athletic department. Just remember those years as UND had finally turned the corner and beat NDSU and had teams capable of winning the national title in 93 and 94 and we had the kitty litter/rainstorm game at IUP with an open turf field 20 minutes away against IUP in the semi finals and then the next year we get beat by UNA in the semi finals who had about 40 extra scholarship players.... Thanks for the info. I had not heard of that. 1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said: She had NDSU and was giving points. Knowledge of no starting FB could've changed the spread and changed her outlay.
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