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For the life of me can't understand why this even has life. Why restrict the flexibility of the legislature to decide where the funds are spent each year? If we need money for the environment then appropriate what is needed. If we need more than 5% then spend more. If measure 5 passes the chance of getting more than that is slim. If less than 5% is needed then they have the flexibility to spend less. Guaranteeing money like this tends to lead to waste. Some of that 5% might be needed elsewhere. Similar legislation in Minnesota though not related to oil, guarantees money for environment and arts. Has led to waste in some cases and that money can't be used elsewhere. Stupid to limit flexibility and options but still need to protect environment. This isn't the way to do it.

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Here is why all politics is joke! A UND legend says HIS view on something and everyone here hates him now! If you don't agree with him, fine don't agree. But why do you have to slam, hate, whatever your bitching here is called? At least if this thing passes or whatever you guys can blame it on Oshie!

Blame and hate, par for the course!

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Here is why all politics is joke! A UND legend says HIS view on something and everyone here hates him now! If you don't agree with him, fine don't agree. But why do you have to slam, hate, whatever your bitching here is called? At least if this thing passes or whatever you guys can blame it on Oshie!

Blame and hate, par for the course!

 

He is the choad who decided to take their money and support something that is bad for the state.  He put himself out there for scrutiny.

 

Did he ever even become a resident of North Dakota? 

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Measure 5 is nothing more than a huge money grab by multiple entities so that they can have opportunities to create more worthless jobs!

Plus The Nature Conservancy is far and away the biggest financial backer in support of this measure.......that is a huge red flag to say the least.

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He is the choad who decided to take their money and support something that is bad for the state. He put himself out there for scrutiny.

Did he ever even become a resident of North Dakota?

"Take their money" your funny! Another example of how people spew hate!

Did he take money? Right or wrong who knows? Who cares?

One thing I do know is that sioux83 does not know that answer!

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Measure 5 would commit at least $300 million per biennium (aka $150 million per year). Let's say ND land is an average of $2350/acre in North Dakota (maybe high for SW ND ranch-only land, low for beet dirt in the RRV). At $2350/acre a section is about $1.5 million. That's 100 sections of land a year ==> a 10 mile by 10 mile square every year. That's crazy. 

 

Another way to look at it:

 

Both the ND Farmers Union (very Democrat) and ND Farm Bureau (very Republican) oppose it. If you can make those two groups agree on something, you're messed up. ;):D 

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Another way to look at it:

 

Both the ND Farmers Union (very Democrat) and ND Farm Bureau (very Republican) oppose it. If you can make those two groups agree on something, you're messed up.

This...^^^^^^!

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Measure 5 would commit at least $300 million per biennium (aka $150 million per year). Let's say ND land is an average of $2350/acre in North Dakota (maybe high for SW ND ranch-only land, low for beet dirt in the RRV). At $2350/acre a section is about $1.5 million. That's 100 sections of land a year ==> a 10 mile by 10 mile square every year. That's crazy. 

 

Another way to look at it:

 

Both the ND Farmers Union (very Democrat) and ND Farm Bureau (very Republican) oppose it. If you can make those two groups agree on something, you're messed up. ;):D

 

 

I'm against this measure, but I doubt much land would be purchased because the governor would have to sign off on that.

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"Take their money" your funny! Another example of how people spew hate!

Did he take money? Right or wrong who knows? Who cares?

One thing I do know is that sioux83 does not know that answer!

 

You think he did the commercial out of the kindness of his heart?   :silly:

 

He doesn't even live in ND or ever will.

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