Oxbow6 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Let me put it this way...I know that a locally owned pharmacy in Fargo has lost money for the first time ever last year due to changes in healtcare, i.e. ACA, and if measure 7 passes I have no doubt this state will see a number of small rural town pharmacies go under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Let me put it this way...I know that a locally owned pharmacy in Fargo has lost money for the first time ever last year due to changes in healtcare, i.e. ACA, and if measure 7 passes I have no doubt this state will see a number of small rural town pharmacies go under. If they are already losing money, how long will they stay open regardless of the outcome of this measure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 its about supporting small business in ND. What do you want it to be....id rather pay a few extra bucks and know that money stays in Grand Forks/ my hometown to continue to be spent in the local economy, not to corporate headquarters in Arkansas. Like the $180.00 they tried charging my wife and I at CVS in N. Fargo for our son who just ruptured his ear drum....or the $12.00 we ended up paying at the Moorhead Wal-mart. I understand supporting small business but this experience seriously pissed me off. Vote yes on #7!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Dan Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Let's put it this way - Take Bottineau for example. Small town that has a Walmart. If this passes does anyone think Walmart won't lower their prices to the point that the local Pharmacy goes out of business. Then what? 2 guesses. Nothing stops anyone from getting their drugs on the Internet from whoever they want if they think it's cheaper and the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Like the $180.00 they tried charging my wife and I at CVS in N. Fargo for our son who just ruptured his ear drum....or the $12.00 we ended up paying at the Moorhead Wal-mart. I understand supporting small business but this experience seriously pissed me off. Vote yes on #7!! Sounds like an In/Out of Network type of thing to me. Or something along those lines. They obviously did not mark up their stuff that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Let's put it this way - Take Bottineau for example. Small town that has a Walmart. If this passes does anyone think Walmart won't lower their prices to the point that the local Pharmacy goes out of business. Then what? 2 guesses. Nothing stops anyone from getting their drugs on the Internet from whoever they want if they think it's cheaper and the way to go. Oddly enough my great uncle just sold his pharmacy up in Bottineau not too long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 If they are already losing money, how long will they stay open regardless of the outcome of this measure? Obamacare/ACA and this measure passing is a death sentence for locally owned rural pharmacies IMO. Good luck to the 85 year old grandma living on a cattle ranch outside of Bowman who has to race into Dickinson in mid January to refill her meds at Walmart because that's her only option...but wait the meds are now "cheaper" in Dickinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Oddly enough my great uncle just sold his pharmacy up in Bottineau not too long ago. Pretty sure I know to whom............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Obamacare/ACA and this measure passing is a death sentence for locally owned rural pharmacies IMO. Good luck to the 85 year old grandma living on a cattle ranch outside of Bowman who has to race into Dickinson in mid January to refill her meds at Walmart because that's her only option...but wait the meds are now "cheaper" in Dickinson. Is that 85 year old making that trip in July? If people in rural towns want to keep their pharmacies open, continue to support them. No different than their grocery stores, hardware stores, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Is that 85 year old making that trip in July? If people in rural towns want to keep their pharmacies open, continue to support them. No different than their grocery stores, hardware stores, etc. Pretty simplistic thinking but the government and insurance companires don't have a hold on grocery stores and hardware stores like they do on prescrition drug coverages and what pharmacies are able to charge, bill and collect. Also when you factor in all expenses such gas and vehicle costs to name a couple, see different thread to discuss gas issues, to travel from Bowman to Dickinson or Carrington to Jamestown to buy "cheaper" meds, are they really "cheaper" when it is all said and done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Pretty simplistic thinking but the government and insurance companires don't have a hold on grocery stores and hardware stores like they do on prescrition drug coverages and what pharmacies are able to charge, bill and collect. So will these small town pharmacies survive evening the measure fails? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 So will these small town pharmacies survive evening the measure fails? They will at least have a fighting chance IMO but let's not forgot the ever evolving part of this equation which is the ACA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 So will these small town pharmacies survive evening the measure fails? Wouldn't that be something. The measure fails and ND pharmacys start closing because of ACA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 But back to Measure 5...this one will be close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Wouldn't that be something. The measure fails and ND pharmacys start closing because of ACA. Very plausible scenario..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 When do the results usually start rolling in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 When do the results usually start rolling in? I'll text the KVLY "It Girl" and get back to you................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 But back to Measure 5...this one will be close. I think the tide really turned on this one and it will fail by a pretty decent margin (10% or so). But I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I think the tide really turned on this one and it will fail by a pretty decent margin (10% or so). But I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night... I think so too. Once people started really looking into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 This is the one measure I really wasn't sure on. I don't support government protectionism, but at the same time I'm not a fan of large corporations. Edit: Referencing Measure 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'd rather the money to back to taxpayers myself. Why give it to any out of state organization to manage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'd rather the money to back to taxpayers myself. Why give it to any out of state organization to manage? Because people hear clean water and conservation and get all excited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Because people hear clean water and conservation and get all excited. And all for just 5% of oil revenues, 5% isn't very much anyway right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Because people hear clean water and conservation and get all excited. This...^^^^^. Cue the uninformed, uneducated, feel good voters heading to the polls today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Sounds like an In/Out of Network type of thing to me. Or something along those lines. They obviously did not mark up their stuff that much. In/Out of network wasn't on my mind with screaming infant. It's all so FUBARed now with the games insurance companies play and OBumma Care. (I thought he said it would lower costs.........I guess that was a lie cause my coverage more than doubled) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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