gfNDfan Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 He couldn't understand why 2 local, "UND guys" were bypassed for a Fargo guy. I told him it was because a South Dakota based company didn't understand or care about the importance of a local connection. Again completely wrong...and Hammer did UND FB on the radio for what 3 or 4 years with Tony Stein before that so there was no "local connection"? WHAT? Did you ever think LOCAL input from the community was considered before midco made their decision? That's the key...it was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_FF Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Come on, only my wife can call me completely wrong. I probably should have said "in comparison to Tim and Pat, Dan had almost no local connection". At the time those final 3 were interviewed, Tim and Pat had been living and working in Grand Forks for over 30 years. Doing play by play of UND games, doing UND coach's shows, reporting on UND sports, all while residing in Grand Forks as UND guys. For over 3 decades. Meanwhile, Dan was a Fargo guy. Had never lived in Grand Forks before. Had never done a UND coach's show. Had way less overall colllege sports play by play experience than the other 2. That's what surprised Pat when he lost out on the job. What does "LOCAL input from the community" even mean? Did Midco poll 20 people? 100 people? The local media and UND folks I know, consider Dan a downgrade from Pat in both his play by play call and also in terms of UND knowledge. And, most local fans I've talked to still consider Dan both a "Fargo guy" and a downgrade. Midco made a business decision hiring Dan, all I was saying was I surprised by it, and so was Pat. Maybe you care to explain what "LOCAL input from the community" means and how that factored into hiring a Fargo guy over long term, local UND guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Come on, only my wife can call me completely wrong. I probably should have said "in comparison to Tim and Pat, Dan had almost no local connection". At the time those final 3 were interviewed, Tim and Pat had been living and working in Grand Forks for over 30 years. Doing play by play of UND games, doing UND coach's shows, reporting on UND sports, all while residing in Grand Forks as UND guys. For over 3 decades. Meanwhile, Dan was a Fargo guy. Had never lived in Grand Forks before. Had never done a UND coach's show. Had way less overall colllege sports play by play experience than the other 2. That's what surprised Pat when he lost out on the job. What does "LOCAL input from the community" even mean? Did Midco poll 20 people? 100 people? The local media and UND folks I know, consider Dan a downgrade from Pat in both his play by play call and also in terms of UND knowledge. And, most local fans I've talked to still consider Dan both a "Fargo guy" and a downgrade. Midco made a business decision hiring Dan, all I was saying was I surprised by it, and so was Pat. Maybe you care to explain what "LOCAL input from the community" means and how that factored into hiring a Fargo guy over long term, local UND guys. Dan Hammer is informative to UND sports as Ed Schultz was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxScore Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Again completely wrong...and Hammer did UND FB on the radio for what 3 or 4 years with Tony Stein before that so there was no "local connection"? WHAT? Did you ever think LOCAL input from the community was considered before midco made their decision? That's the key...it was! They couldn't have got much local input because most people I've talked to consider him a terrible downgrade and wish we could go back to the days of Sweeney. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Even though they have day jobs don't the play by play guys for UND hockey actually work for UND directly when they are announcing games? Perhaps we will continue to see Pat on the air now that he is a UND employee. He's one of the nicest guys in sports you will ever meet and great to know he's staying here, connected with UND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 They couldn't have got much local input because most people I've talked to consider him a terrible downgrade and wish we could go back to the days of Sweeney. Totally agree. Remember though that und contracted midco (private company) to get the job done. Midco can really do whatever they want until their contract is up. Anyone know when it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Even though they have day jobs don't the play by play guys for UND hockey actually work for UND directly when they are announcing games? Perhaps we will continue to see Pat on the air now that he is a UND employee. He's one of the nicest guys in sports you will ever meet and great to know he's staying here, connected with UND. I believe they're midcontinent employees rather than UND employees. Basketball may be a UND employee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Dan Hammer is informative to UND sports as Ed Schultz was.Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfNDfan Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Come on, only my wife can call me completely wrong. I probably should have said "in comparison to Tim and Pat, Dan had almost no local connection". At the time those final 3 were interviewed, Tim and Pat had been living and working in Grand Forks for over 30 years. Doing play by play of UND games, doing UND coach's shows, reporting on UND sports, all while residing in Grand Forks as UND guys. For over 3 decades. Meanwhile, Dan was a Fargo guy. Had never lived in Grand Forks before. Had never done a UND coach's show. Had way less overall colllege sports play by play experience than the other 2. That's what surprised Pat when he lost out on the job. What does "LOCAL input from the community" even mean? Did Midco poll 20 people? 100 people? The local media and UND folks I know, consider Dan a downgrade from Pat in both his play by play call and also in terms of UND knowledge. And, most local fans I've talked to still consider Dan both a "Fargo guy" and a downgrade. Midco made a business decision hiring Dan, all I was saying was I surprised by it, and so was Pat. Maybe you care to explain what "LOCAL input from the community" means and how that factored into hiring a Fargo guy over long term, local UND guys. DIfferent broadcast = new directions. If people would have demanded PS stay he would have - they did not - despite what the 12 people here say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 When it comes to hockey, Sweeney > Hammer...not even close IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 DIfferent broadcast = new directions. If people would have demanded PS stay he would have - they did not - despite what the 12 people here say. Whatever helps you sleep Dan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 And dullum bites the dust Dominoes are in line Glad I have good sources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Predicting a guy who's been on the job 39 years may retire. Wow. Shoot fish in a barrel much? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Predicting a guy who's been on the job 39 years may retire. Wow. Shoot fish in a barrel much? Or predicting it 10 minutes or so after WDAZ posted it on their website... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 PS - The sports director position at WDAZ was advertised in Sunday's Fargo Fool'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Dullums not retiring Re read the article please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Basically a fancy word for quitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Dullum files retirement with WDAZ after 39 years at TV station WDAZ announced the retirement of Terry Dullum this afternoon. http://www.grandforksherald.com/content/dullum-files-retirement-wdaz-after-39-years-tv-station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Dullum files retirement with WDAZ after 39 years at TV station WDAZ announced the retirement of Terry Dullum this afternoon. http://www.grandforksherald.com/content/dullum-files-retirement-wdaz-after-39-years-tv-station http://dullumfile.areavoices.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Read the whole article please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Also please read Terry's own writin in stead of the release the boys from fargo made up to distribute Terry rights I am not retiring Apologiea are now being accepted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Also please read Terry's own writin in stead of the release the boys from fargo made up to distribute Terry rights I am not retiring Apologiea are now being accepted And I suppose you are going to tell us that it's because Terry isn't good enough at sales? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Terry and pat just couldn't see the station they built with own two hands fall to the way side imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 So he's leaving 'DAZ to do something different. After 39 years the guy's earned it. I say this at times to make fun of Bison football fans, but I think it fits here also: How things are right now is how they'll always be. Part of growing (as a person, community, or State) is accepting that change is always happening. Heck, someday all the good ol' boys will be on the other side of the grass too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Terry and pat just couldn't see the station they built with own two hands fall to the way side imo The station they built ... has it really kept up with the times? Don't get me wrong, Pat and Terry had a great run and earned a ton of respect, but as with everything in life there comes a time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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