Sioux Gophers the 2014 Championship Edition

[Goon]

Where does Mafia Man fit into the administrative pie??

He's working on fluffing his post count.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

I've met a COUPLE non-idiot ones, so I guess I HAD to clarify, right?

That's like spotting a Yeti! People usually say they've met 'non-idiot' Gopher fans and have grainy pictures or video to back up their claims, but I've yet to see any hard evidence.

[Mariucci]

Dude..... you said they were 19th heading into the weekend of the conference tourneys.... FALSE. They were only ranked 19th because they won their conference tourney to get the auto-bid. They were not ranked in the top 20 any time before March 20th so they could have very well been ranked 54th in the pairwise though I don't know how you'd look that up. It was the first time a fifteen or sixteen seed beat a number one or two seed, since the field was expanded to sixteen teams. The point is that game is still considered by many to be the biggest upset in college hockey history. Arguing otherwise is just ignorance....

Excuse me for saying they were 19th ONE WEEK prior than they actually were. Seriously? Bottom line is that you said they were 54th when in fact they were 35 spots higher.

[Siouxman]

Umm sorry but you're waaaay off. Holy Cross was not 54th in the pairwise, they were 19th and a bubble team heading into the weekend of the conference tourneys.

Sorry Mariucci, but you are waaaaaaaaaaaaay off. Here are the USCHO Pairwise rankings as of April 9, 2006, AFTER Holy Cross beat Minnesota. This shows them as 40th after the greatest upset in Division I hockey history.

Scores through April 8, 2006 courtesy of USCHO.com . Maximum Goal Differential = 7 March 9, 2006 - 2005-2006 RANK TEAM W L T GmPerf Sched Total Last 5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1,Wisconsin,_________________________ 30 10 3, 1.5, 7.8, 9.31, 10.83 2,Minnesota,_________________________ 27 9 5, 1.5, 7.6, 9.12, 7.54 3,North Dakota,______________________ 28 17 1, 1.1, 7.8, 8.88, 9.21 4,Boston College,____________________ 26 13 3, 1.2, 7.5, 8.71, 10.54 5,St. Cloud State,___________________ 23 15 4, 0.9, 7.7, 8.63, 9.98 6,Colorado College,__________________ 24 16 2, 0.8, 7.8, 8.63, 7.73 7,Boston University,_________________ 26 10 4, 1.1, 7.4, 8.55, 10.53 8,Miami,_____________________________ 26 9 4, 1.1, 7.3, 8.42, 7.53 9,Maine,_____________________________ 28 12 2, 1.1, 7.3, 8.42, 8.33 10,Michigan State,____________________ 25 12 8, 0.8, 7.5, 8.26, 9.43 11,Denver,____________________________ 21 15 3, 0.4, 7.8, 8.15, 7.03 12,Michigan,__________________________ 21 15 5, 0.5, 7.6, 8.13, 7.38 13,New Hampshire,_____________________ 20 13 7, 0.5, 7.5, 7.91, 8.15 14,Minnesota State,___________________ 17 18 4, 0.1, 7.7, 7.80, 9.25 15,Harvard,___________________________ 21 12 2, 0.5, 7.2, 7.73, 9.83 16,Vermont,___________________________ 18 14 6, 0.4, 7.3, 7.68, 6.05 17,Northern Michigan,_________________ 22 16 2, 0.4, 7.3, 7.66, 8.28 18,Cornell,___________________________ 22 9 4, 0.6, 7.0, 7.64, 7.83 19,Nebraska-Omaha,____________________ 20 15 6, 0.2, 7.4, 7.64, 6.08 20,Dartmouth,_________________________ 19 12 2, 0.7, 6.9, 7.61, 7.44 21,Providence,________________________ 17 16 3, 0.3, 7.3, 7.61, 5.59 22,Ohio State,________________________ 15 19 5, 0.1, 7.5, 7.60, 5.99 23,Ferris State,______________________ 17 15 8, 0.2, 7.4, 7.55, 8.32 24,Lake Superior,_____________________ 15 14 7, 0.2, 7.2, 7.41, 5.84 25,Colgate,___________________________ 20 13 6, 0.5, 6.9, 7.40, 7.28 26,Notre Dame,________________________ 13 19 4, -0.3, 7.5, 7.28, 6.96 27,Bemidji State,_____________________ 20 14 3, 0.8, 6.5, 7.26, 8.15 28,Alaska-Fairbanks,__________________ 18 16 5, -0.3, 7.6, 7.26, 7.07 29,St. Lawrence,______________________ 21 17 2, 0.2, 7.0, 7.23, 6.81 30,Clarkson,__________________________ 18 17 3, 0.3, 6.8, 7.11, 7.80 31,Quinnipiac,________________________ 20 18 1, 0.5, 6.5, 7.04, 7.08 32,Bowling Green,_____________________ 13 23 2, -0.6, 7.4, 6.77, 6.68 33,Massachusetts,_____________________ 13 21 2, -0.7, 7.4, 6.72, 6.81 34,Mass.-Lowell,______________________ 14 20 2, -0.8, 7.4, 6.65, 9.18 35,Minnesota-Duluth,__________________ 11 25 4, -1.3, 7.9, 6.64, 7.84 36,Rensselaer,________________________ 14 17 6, -0.2, 6.8, 6.62, 6.83 37,Niagara,___________________________ 20 15 1, 0.1, 6.4, 6.56, 7.19 38,Princeton,_________________________ 10 18 3, -0.5, 7.0, 6.51, 5.47 39,Alabama-Huntsville,________________ 19 13 2, 0.1, 6.2, 6.29, 6.18 40,Holy Cross,________________________ 27 10 2, 0.9, 5.4, 6.29, 7.31 41,Union,_____________________________ 16 16 6, -0.3, 6.6, 6.27, 5.88 42,Alaska-Anchorage,__________________ 6 27 3, -1.9, 8.1, 6.24, 6.22 43,Sacred Heart,______________________ 21 12 2, 1.0, 5.2, 6.14, 6.09 44,Northeastern,______________________ 3 24 7, -1.6, 7.7, 6.10, 6.23 45,Michigan Tech,_____________________ 7 25 6, -2.0, 8.1, 6.08, 6.20 46,Mercyhurst,________________________ 22 13 1, 0.9, 5.1, 6.04, 5.85 47,Western Michigan,__________________ 10 24 6, -1.5, 7.5, 6.01, 8.06 48,Brown,_____________________________ 5 20 7, -1.2, 7.1, 5.94, 7.25 49,Yale,______________________________ 10 20 3, -1.0, 6.9, 5.94, 5.65 50,Merrimack,_________________________ 6 23 5, -1.6, 7.2, 5.63, 6.14 51,Robert Morris,_____________________ 12 20 3, -0.7, 6.2, 5.48, 6.49 52,Air Force,_________________________ 11 20 1, -0.7, 6.1, 5.39, 4.92 53,Wayne State,_______________________ 6 23 6, -1.5, 6.6, 5.07, 3.53 54,RIT,_______________________________ 4 21 2, -1.1, 6.1, 5.01, 5.16 55,Army,______________________________ 12 18 6, -0.4, 5.4, 4.99, 4.17 56,Bentley,___________________________ 15 17 5, -0.6, 5.3, 4.72, 5.38 57,Canisius,__________________________ 10 23 2, -0.8, 5.3, 4.51, 4.04 58,Connecticut,_______________________ 11 23 2, -1.1, 5.4, 4.29, 4.48 59,American Int'l,____________________ 6 21 5, -1.9, 5.4, 3.54, 3.86

[Goon]

Sorry Mariucci, but you are waaaaaaaaaaaaay off. Here are the USCHO Pairwise rankings as of April 9, 2006, AFTER Holy Cross beat Minnesota. This shows them as 40th after the greatest upset in Division I hockey history.

Scores through April 8, 2006 courtesy of USCHO.com .

1,Wisconsin,_________________________ 30 10 3, 1.5, 7.8, 9.31, 10.83 2,Minnesota,_________________________ 27 9 5, 1.5, 7.6, 9.12, 7.54

3,North Dakota,______________________ 28 17 1, 1.1, 7.8, 8.88, 9.21

4,Boston College,____________________ 26 13 3, 1.2, 7.5, 8.71, 10.54

5,St. Cloud State,___________________ 23 15 4, 0.9, 7.7, 8.63, 9.98

6,Colorado College,__________________ 24 16 2, 0.8, 7.8, 8.63, 7.73

7,Boston University,_________________ 26 10 4, 1.1, 7.4, 8.55, 10.53

8,Miami,_____________________________ 26 9 4, 1.1, 7.3, 8.42, 7.53 9,Maine,_____________________________ 28 12 2, 1.1, 7.3, 8.42, 8.33

10,Michigan State,____________________ 25 12 8, 0.8, 7.5, 8.26, 9.43

11,Denver,____________________________ 21 15 3, 0.4, 7.8, 8.15, 7.03 12,Michigan,__________________________ 21 15 5, 0.5, 7.6, 8.13, 7.38

13,New Hampshire,_____________________ 20 13 7, 0.5, 7.5, 7.91, 8.15

14,Minnesota State,___________________ 17 18 4, 0.1, 7.7, 7.80, 9.25

15,Harvard,___________________________ 21 12 2, 0.5, 7.2, 7.73, 9.83 16,Vermont,___________________________ 18 14 6, 0.4, 7.3, 7.68, 6.05

17,Northern Michigan,_________________ 22 16 2, 0.4, 7.3, 7.66, 8.28 18,Cornell,___________________________ 22 9 4, 0.6, 7.0, 7.64, 7.83

19,Nebraska-

40,Holy Cross,________________________ 27 10 2, 0.9, 5.4, 6.29, 7.31

Hey stop clouding the issue with facts.

[Mariucci]

Hey stop clouding the issue with facts.

Sorry but they were 19th. Its a fact. That chart above is not accurate. Google is your friend, learn how to use it correctly and you'll see they were 19th. In fact one of your UND buddies already posted they were 19th. Unbelievable.

[bigskyvikes]

Wow.

Here ya go "wow" now you can PM me to "take my meds".... Tool

" Potulny lead Red River to 3 State Titles"

http://m.gophersports.com/m/sports/m-hockey/mtt/grant_potulny_760347.html

[Siouxman]

Sorry but they were 19th. Its a fact. That chart above is not accurate. Google is your friend, learn how to use it correctly and you'll see they were 19th. In fact one of your UND buddies already posted they were 19th. Unbelievable.

Sorry, but you are waaaaay off again Mariucci. What he posted were polls, not Pairwise Ranking. I was talking Pairwise Ranking, which is based off actual competition and not voting. Unbelievable.

[Goon]

Sorry but they were 19th. Its a fact. That chart above is not accurate. Google is your friend, learn how to use it correctly and you'll see they were 19th. In fact one of your UND buddies already posted they were 19th. Unbelievable.

Really, this is the most important thing today in your world? Personally, I could care less, but Siouxman did use actual facts, and USCHO is known for being right. Just saying!

[petey23]

Sorry but they were 19th. Its a fact. That chart above is not accurate. Google is your friend, learn how to use it correctly and you'll see they were 19th. In fact one of your UND buddies already posted they were 19th. Unbelievable.

I believe Holy Cross was 19 in the pairwise when the brackets were laid out. Also I think the Gophs were #2 overall behind Bucky. Bemidji State was actually about 28th in the pairwise.

It was a big win because it hadn't happened before but now it would just draw a yawn.

[cberkas]

Sorry but they were 19th. Its a fact. That chart above is not accurate. Google is your friend, learn how to use it correctly and you'll see they were 19th. In fact one of your UND buddies already posted they were 19th. Unbelievable.

The one I found says that Holly Cross was ranked 21st in the pairwise on March 18 2006. http://slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/2006/pwr.shtml

[Mariucci]

Sorry, but you are waaaaay off again Mariucci. What he posted were polls, not Pairwise Ranking. I was talking Pairwise Ranking, which is based off actual competition and not voting. Unbelievable.

Im not talking about voting polls. Im talking about the Pairwise rankings. HC was 19th in the pairwise when they played the Gophers end of story. You can argue against facts all you want, have fun.

[keikla]

He's working on fluffing his post count.

"Oh! Why, hello Pot! This is Kettle!"

[siouxfan512]

#trolltribe #america'steam #nocanadians

Johnny Gadreau is ridiculous ... that is all.

[stoneySIOUX]

That's like spotting a Yeti! People usually say they've met 'non-idiot' Gopher fans and have grainy pictures or video to back up their claims, but I've yet to see any hard evidence.

Non-idiot gopher fans are blurry.... it's not the camera... and that's extra scary to me... there's a large, out-of-focus, angry fan, roaming the countryside.... run, he's fuzzy! (Hopefully people catch my Mitch Hedberg joke

[siouxfan512]

Just watched Nate Condon and Kyle Rau on Mark Rosen's show...Condon's funny...Rau the opposite of his on-ice personality. And Mark called 'em the Sioux...good stuff.

Saw that .. Props to Mark for calling them the Sioux, he did that on the evening news as well, and Condon is a pretty good character. He has had some good interviews over the last week. Rau needs to drink a Red Bull before he goes on camera.

[Goon]

"Oh! Why, hello Pot! This is Kettle!"

Well, I have been a member since Jim started the message board.

[Jeremy_und2004]

As much as I hate agreeing with a Gopher, Here is the PAIRWISE (not polls) from USCHO.com

2/15/2006 Holy Cross 25th http://www.uscho.com...ed-feb-15-2006/

3/1/2006 Holy Cross 27th http://www.uscho.com...d-march-1-2006/

3/8/2006 Holy Cross 22nd http://www.uscho.com...d-march-8-2006/

3/15/2006 Holy Cross 19th http://www.uscho.com...-march-15-2006/

Still an amazing upset, but not a 1 vs 54 upset.

With that said...... GO SIOUX!!!!!!!

"Looks clean to me"

[Dave Berger]

#trolltribe #america'steam #nocanadians

So after all of those years of making such a big deal about recruiting only in state (and being "Minnesota's Pride On Ice"), now the Gophers are "America's Team"? I don't think it works that way. You're not the Cowboys.

Come to think of it, can North Dakota be #NorthAmerica'sTeam since Thomas Vanek played at Minnesota?

Dave

[Siouxperfan7]

Are you guys just baiting Mariucci so he has to keep talking about that game? If so...brilliant!!!

[Dave Berger]

The University of Minnesota has 21 Minnesotans on their current roster. The other four are from Colorado (Tom Serratore), Florida (Gabe Guertler), Missouri (Sam Warning), and Wisconsin (captain Nate Condon).

The University of North Dakota has 3 North Dakotans on their current roster. Luke Johnson and Paul LaDue are from Grand Forks, and Keaton Thompson is from Devils Lake.

UND has only four Minnesotans, the lowest total in recent memory. Two are Twin Cities kids: Conner Gaarder (Edina) and Nick Mattson (Chanhassen). Zane Gothberg hails from Thief River Falls, and Gage Ausmus is from right across the river in East Grand Forks.

Minnesota population (2013 estimate): 5,420,000

North Dakota population (2013 estimate): 723,000

Discuss.

Dave

[Siouxman]

As much as I hate agreeing with a Gopher, Here is the PAIRWISE (not polls) from USCHO.com

2/15/2006 Holy Cross 25th http://www.uscho.com...ed-feb-15-2006/

3/1/2006 Holy Cross 27th http://www.uscho.com...d-march-1-2006/

3/8/2006 Holy Cross 22nd http://www.uscho.com...d-march-8-2006/

3/15/2006 Holy Cross 19th http://www.uscho.com...-march-15-2006/

Still an amazing upset, but not a 1 vs 54 upset.

With that said...... GO SIOUX!!!!!!!

"Looks clean to me"

Thank you for finding this. Unfortunately, it has shaded one of my favorite memories just a little bit. The truth appears closer to Mariucci's position, so I will concede and offer apologies to Mariucci, but thank the Gophers for that memory.

I am still optimistic that the Gopher team that shows up on Thursday will not be as great as Gopher fans seem to think they are, and the Fighting Sioux team that shows up will be as good as advertised.

[Siouxman]

The University of Minnesota has 21 Minnesotans on their current roster. The other four are from Colorado (Tom Serratore), Florida (Gabe Guertler), Missouri (Sam Warning), and Wisconsin (captain Nate Condon).

The University of North Dakota has 3 North Dakotans on their current roster. Luke Johnson and Paul LaDue are from Grand Forks, and Keaton Thompson is from Devils Lake.

UND has only four Minnesotans, the lowest total in recent memory. Two are Twin Cities kids: Conner Gaarder (Edina) and Nick Mattson (Chanhassen). Zane Gothberg hails from Thief River Falls, and Gage Ausmus is from right across the river in East Grand Forks.

Minnesota population (2013 estimate): 5,420,000

North Dakota population (2013 estimate): 723,000

Discuss.

Dave

MN hockey players on the MN roster represent 3.875 X 10^-6 % of the population and ND hockey players on the UND roster represent 4.149 X 10^-6 % of the population. Therefore UND has a higher percentage of its state population on the roster than MN has on its roster.

End of discussion?

[Tiggsy]

The University of Minnesota has 21 Minnesotans on their current roster. The other four are from Colorado (Tom Serratore), Florida (Gabe Guertler), Missouri (Sam Warning), and Wisconsin (captain Nate Condon).

The University of North Dakota has 3 North Dakotans on their current roster. Luke Johnson and Paul LaDue are from Grand Forks, and Keaton Thompson is from Devils Lake.

UND has only four Minnesotans, the lowest total in recent memory. Two are Twin Cities kids: Conner Gaarder (Edina) and Nick Mattson (Chanhassen). Zane Gothberg hails from Thief River Falls, and Gage Ausmus is from right across the river in East Grand Forks.

Minnesota population (2013 estimate): 5,420,000

North Dakota population (2013 estimate): 723,000

Discuss.

Dave

As an engineer I do appreciate Siouxman's calculations, but I'm going to go with a more qualitative, general approach.

Not too many people live in ND (relatively speaking). Especially those who want to play D1 hockey.

[franchise]

So after all of those years of making such a big deal about recruiting only in state (and being "Minnesota's Pride On Ice"), now the Gophers are "America's Team"? I don't think it works that way. You're not the Cowboys.

Come to think of it, can North Dakota be #NorthAmerica'sTeam since Thomas Vanek played at Minnesota?

Dave

If we don't count Spirko