Snake Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 It's the same old posts, and the same old replies. I can't figure out why some don't just put gfhockey on "ignore." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Go over to the football forum...true und fans..i break news all the time over there bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 What's the reasoning for switching your stance on PWR as I thought earlier in the year you were more keen on USCHO's? CHN just finished theirs a week or two ago. But, while they were working on it they still had the old table posted, so I was warning people that their posted table was wrong. Now that they've finished it, their's seems more correct to me. In short, in trying to do it myself before USCHO or CHN did it, I found out how basketball applied the weights and did that (even though it seemed subpar). When USCHO came out with their's about a month ago, they did the same thing I had done, so I assumed it must be correct (even though it had proven pretty quirky as I was trying to implement it). Once CHN did it the other way and declared they were sure they were right, I now think USCHO just did what I did -- found out how basketball does it and assumed that must be how hockey does. But, basketball's implementation doesn't work well with the dropped games. So, I'm going to start moving entirely to the CHN calculation (though will maintain the ability to run USCHO's if we get more information in the future). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 CHN just finished theirs a week or two ago. But, while they were working on it they still had the old table posted, so I was warning people that their posted table was wrong. Now that they've finished it, their's seems more correct to me. In short, in trying to do it myself before USCHO or CHN did it, I found out how basketball applied the weights and did that (even though it seemed subpar). When USCHO came out with their's about a month ago, they did the same thing I had done, so I assumed it must be correct (even though it had proven pretty quirky as I was trying to implement it). Once CHN did it the other way and declared they were sure they were right, I now think USCHO just did what I did -- found out how basketball does it and assumed that must be how hockey does. But, basketball's implementation doesn't work well with the dropped games. So, I'm going to start moving entirely to the CHN calculation (though will maintain the ability to run USCHO's if we get more information in the future). Makes sense, I'm interested to see how this will adjust to your future predictions and if it will be more or less volatile and hopefully (fingers crossed) gives UND a better chance to make bigger moves upwards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxjoy Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Go over to the football forum...true und fans..i break news all the time over there bud Something to consider...there are a lot of people that frequent this website that have inside information. Not all of them choose to post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Something to consider...there are a lot of people that frequent this website that have inside information. Not all of them choose to post. Uh oh.... here comes a "I have more info than you" battle" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray77 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Uh oh.... here comes a "I have more info than you" battle" Which could very quickly and easily turn into a "Well, I make more money than you" battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Which could very quickly and easily turn into a "Well, I make more money than you" battle. Exactly where I was going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Go over to the football forum...true und fans..i break wind all the time over there bud Fixed your post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 UND still with a little more downside potential than upside. Still a very good chance of an at-large bid if UND wins more than it loses. As previously mentioned, this is using the CHN implementation (for USCHO readers, their PWR is a bit different). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 UND still with a little more downside potential than upside. Still a very good chance of an at-large bid if UND wins more than it loses. As previously mentioned, this is using the CHN implementation (for USCHO readers, their PWR is a bit different). So 7 gets us in, 6 gets us firmly on the bubble. Starts tonight, boys! Let's go SIOUX. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Thanks, as always, Jim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGreyAnt41 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 So 7 gets us in, 6 gets us firmly on the bubble. Starts tonight, boys! Let's go SIOUX. Looks like 5 wins puts us on the bubble, 4 would make it possible to make the tournament, but we'd need A LOT of help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-RedSox fan Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 5 wins puts us very much on the bubble. Looks like most likely 14th or 15th. 15th would be the last spot in the tournament because the Atlantic Hockey champion is going to take the 16th spot. We would need there to be absolutely no upset champions in the conference tournaments in that case. So I say lets take 6 or better still 7 or 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 And don't forget the nchc tournament. Where und will likely need at least 3 wins to hold onto their spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Lulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 IIm just getting to town. Will be at voth games. Lower bowl. If im by any of u come down and buy me a beer. Lets partayyyy Section 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGreyAnt41 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 5 wins puts us very much on the bubble. Looks like most likely 14th or 15th. 15th would be the last spot in the tournament because the Atlantic Hockey champion is going to take the 16th spot. We would need there to be absolutely no upset champions in the conference tournaments in that case. So I say lets take 6 or better still 7 or 8 That's kinda the definition of "the bubble", isn't it? Six wins puts us, in most scenarios, between 11 and 13. That's probably safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyvikes Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 IIm just getting to town. Will be at voth games. Lower bowl. If im by any of u come down and buy me a beer. Lets partayyyy Section 104 That would be great! Can you be a little more specific? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siouxkid12 Posted February 14, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2014 IIm just getting to town. Will be at voth games. Lower bowl. If im by any of u come down and buy me a beer. Lets partayyyy Section 104 why would i buy a beer for a guy who makes over 100,000 a year? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keikla Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 5 wins puts us very much on the bubble. Looks like most likely 14th or 15th. 15th would be the last spot in the tournament because the Atlantic Hockey champion is going to take the 16th spot. We would need there to be absolutely no upset champions in the conference tournaments in that case. So I say lets take 6 or better still 7 or 8 I would not at all be surprised if Mankato or Tech takes the WCHA tourney from Ferris. Odds are not in our favor at 14 or 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 currently sitting in 12th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 currently sitting in 12th But...but...I thought the season was over? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willythekid Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 But...but...I thought the season was over? Who are you quoting? Just GF? I am pleased as anyone else with tonight's performance but these were games we had to win... we did that now on to some real tests in my opinion. Now this team needs to show it is not the first team in 14 years that was too little too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Who are you quoting? Just GF? I am pleased as anyone else with tonight's performance but these were games we had to win... we did that now on to some real tests in my opinion. Now this team needs to show it is not the first team in 14 years that was too little too late. I'm not directly quoting anybody...but the naysayers are awfully quiet tonight. #12 in the current PWR? Keep winning and UND is right where it wants to be...in the hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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