darell1976 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 This thread is labeled "congrats to NDSU" for a reason; give credit where credit is due. Now lets move on and look forward to our awesome matchup vs. South Dakota State this weekend. Gonna be a good one and I'm looking for UND to come out on top! We did give them credit too bad it went to their heads and shrunk their brains with the we are BCS material talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 If that's the number I would bet UND. 9 maybe if this was in Brookings. I think it's a fair spread in favor of the Jacks. UND gets -3 for playing at home so -15 if played at SDSU and would be -12 if on neutral field. They are #6 in nation and a playoff team last year. Now if I were to bet I'd probably take UND and the 9 cause I'm wanting a W! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jheria Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Welcome to Betting 101: The House sets the line to try to get equal action on both sides of the game. Giving 9 means the House is trying to get more folks to pick SDSU. Given that SDSU is ranked and UND is not, to me it says many folks don't know what to expect with UND hosting the game so the House needs to entice some extra SDSU action. Thanks for the education. . I just figured having Darral/Duker on their side was worth at least 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Thanks for the education. . I just figured having Darral/Duker on their side was worth at least 7 Goodness. You really do have a problem typing "Hayduke". Really. You would think that a vo-tech school could at least teach a simple keyboarding class? Well, I see that you are interested in betting money on the UND/SDSU game. Other than the point spread, what's the over/under on points scored? Oh, do tell. We are dying to hear from a fan of the future Grey Cup champions at the University of Agriculture and Applied Sciences! (That Jeff Bentrim! He was quite a back up in the CFL!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 (That Jeff Bentrim! He was quite a back up in the CFL!) Figured you would have trouble saying his name after the unforgivable beatings he threw down on UND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Figured you would have trouble saying his name after the unforgivable beatings he threw down on UND. Yeah. Here's a guy that spent years in this league called the NFL.... check this out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KHaKOjX_Hs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Yeah. Here's a guy that spent years in this league called the NFL.... check this out... Jimmy was a good player. Wasn't he kinda drafted to be something other than an extra lineman though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksixpack Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Great win by Bison on Friday...4th in a row over FBS team...lets break down those wins... 2010 beat Kansas who finishes 1-7 in Big 12 and ranked 111 out of 120 FBS teams in the final power rankings... 2011 beat Minnesota that was 2-6 in Big 10 and #94 in final power rankings ... 2012 beat Colorado State that was 3-5 in Mtn West and #100 in final 2012 power rankings... Friday beat Kansas St who are picked 6th in the Big 12 and are currently #64 in the power rankings... All wins by the Bison are impressive but they have been fortunate to play these schools during down years...final analysis is calm down Bisonville you beat 3 teams you should have and one maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Jimmy was a good player. Wasn't he kinda drafted to be something other than an extra lineman though? I'm pretty sure that the Minnesota Vikings were happy with his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Congrats to the bison on the win. Until UND wins an FBS game, we should probably just leave it at that. A win against any FBS school is a good win. UND has played a few "cupcake" FBS schools (we had difficulty competing with Idaho) and unfortunately haven't been able to take one out...yet. Hopefully that win will come sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Congrats to the bison on the win. Until UND wins an FBS game, we should probably just leave it at that. A win against any FBS school is a good win. UND has played a few "cupcake" FBS schools (we had difficulty competing with Idaho) and unfortunately haven't been able to take one out...yet. Hopefully that win will come sooner than later. UND had 3 chances of a FBS win (IMO)....Northern Illinois, Fresno State, and Idaho (where UND was up at halftime). Still only NDSU and USD are the only Dakota teams with FBS wins and like you said a win against ANY FBS school is a good win. I see the NDSU-KSU game like UND-Texas Tech, Tech was down as they lost their superstars but still had a decent 2009 season (9-4 with a Bowl win), KSU can still have a good season but not like the one last season (11-2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 UND had 3 chances of a FBS win (IMO)....Northern Illinois, Fresno State, and Idaho (where UND was up at halftime). Still only NDSU and USD are the only Dakota teams with FBS wins and like you said a win against ANY FBS school is a good win. I see the NDSU-KSU game like UND-Texas Tech, Tech was down as they lost their superstars but still had a decent 2009 season (9-4 with a Bowl win), KSU can still have a good season but not like the one last season (11-2). Forgot San Diego St. If UND had anything remotely resembling a defense last year that game would've been won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Forgot San Diego St. If UND had anything remotely resembling a defense last year that game would've been won. True, I forgot about SDSU. Its like we are just that close, and hopefully next year we can get the first win over San Jose St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 My Grandkids in West Fargo love the Bison FB Team & they love UND Hockey - one parent is UND grad other has degrees from both I would not trade our Hockey program for their FB program - until they start playing each other in FB that wont change much But good for them good for ND 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jheria Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Goodness. You really do have a problem typing "Hayduke". Really. You would think that a vo-tech school could at least teach a simple keyboarding class? Well, I see that you are interested in betting money on the UND/SDSU game. Other than the point spread, what's the over/under on points scored? Oh, do tell. We are dying to hear from a fan of the future Grey Cup champions at the University of Agriculture and Applied Sciences! (That Jeff Bentrim! He was quite a back up in the CFL!) Nope, no problem typing it. I just choose to use an alternate name. Sound familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksixpack Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hey congrats to NDSU and all they have accomplished the past few years...very impressive...but until they have that Nickel back in Fargo, that trophy case, the national championships, and the wins over FBS schools will be a little hollow. If they had any brains down south, not only would they have played UND every year but twice a year home and home. They could own a long win streak over us now but they are so thick headed they can't think straight. By the time they do get around to playing UND, UND will be on par with them...short sided thinking by them for sure. P.S. the next time UND and NDSU plays a football game against each other will be in the playoffs...and it will be very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hey congrats to NDSU and all they have accomplished the past few years...very impressive...but until they have that Nickel back in Fargo, that trophy case, the national championships, and the wins over FBS schools will be a little hollow. If they had any brains down south, not only would they have played UND every year but twice a year home and home. They could own a long win streak over us now but they are so thick headed they can't think straight. By the time they do get around to playing UND, UND will be on par with them...short sided thinking by them for sure. P.S. the next time UND and NDSU plays a football game against each other will be in the playoffs...and it will be very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Dan Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hey congrats to NDSU and all they have accomplished the past few years...very impressive...but until they have that Nickel back in Fargo, that trophy case, the national championships, and the wins over FBS schools will be a little hollow. If they had any brains down south, not only would they have played UND every year but twice a year home and home. They could own a long win streak over us now but they are so thick headed they can't think straight. By the time they do get around to playing UND, UND will be on par with them...short sided thinking by them for sure. P.S. the next time UND and NDSU plays a football game against each other will be in the playoffs...and it will be very soon. Beat SDSU first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksixpack Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 most likely won't be this year but very good chance within 3 years...for sure before Taylor inks the contract. As long as Taylor is in charge there will be no regular season game between NDSU/UND, but if both are in the playoffs you can bet the NCAA will match them up. NDSU team make up will change dramatically next year, especially if Bohl is gone...so no guarantee Bison win that playoff game after this year...the window of opportunity of dominance over UND is closing for NDSU without them even playing us... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Dan Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 most likely won't be this year but very good chance within 3 years...for sure before Taylor inks the contract. As long as Taylor is in charge there will be no regular season game between NDSU/UND, but if both are in the playoffs you can bet the NCAA will match them up. NDSU team make up will change dramatically next year, especially if Bohl is gone...so no guarantee Bison win that playoff game after this year...the window of opportunity of dominance over UND is closing for NDSU without them even playing us... UND has had several contracts to sign the last being an every other year one that both Muss and Faison said no to. They wanted every year. We'll be fine next year as most 2's play half the game anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksixpack Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Great win by Bison on Friday...4th in a row over FBS team...lets break down those wins... 2010 beat Kansas who finishes 1-7 in Big 12 and ranked 111 out of 120 FBS teams in the final power rankings... 2011 beat Minnesota that was 2-6 in Big 10 and #94 in final power rankings ... 2012 beat Colorado State that was 3-5 in Mtn West and #100 in final 2012 power rankings... Friday beat Kansas St who are picked 6th in the Big 12 and are currently #64 in the power rankings... All wins by the Bison are impressive but they have been fortunate to play these schools during down years...final analysis is calm down Bisonville you beat 3 teams you should have and one maybe... To compare apples to apples...here is UND's record vs 4 FBS teams since 2010... 2010...lost to Northern Illinois 23-17...N.I. finished #30 in the final 2010 FBS power rankings...best team either NDSU or UND has played and UND was one play away... 2011...lost to #83 Fresno State 27-22...again just one play away from winning... 2011...lost to #113 Idaho 44-14 (UND was up 14-10 at half and fell apart in 2nd half to a poor FBS team, it was the following week after game vs Fresno St...but none-the-less a poor effort and the only one of the 4 games that was 2012...lost to #66 San Diego State 49-41...again just a play or two away... That's comparing apples to apples vs NDSU...yes NDSU is 4-0 against their 4 FBS opponents and UND is 0-4 but you can see the gap isn't that far off. UND has played better opponents and had opportunities to win 3 of the games and led the other at half...no one would claim that UND was a national championship caliber team in any of those years while NDSU was the best team in FCS all 3 years. Point is that my assumption for NDSU to calm down about their 4 FBS wins is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 UND had 3 chances of a FBS win (IMO)....Northern Illinois, Fresno State, and Idaho (where UND was up at halftime). Still only NDSU and USD are the only Dakota teams with FBS wins and like you said a win against ANY FBS school is a good win. I see the NDSU-KSU game like UND-Texas Tech, Tech was down as they lost their superstars but still had a decent 2009 season (9-4 with a Bowl win), KSU can still have a good season but not like the one last season (11-2). I want an FBS win so bad I can almost taste it. We have easy FBS teams the next 2 years, so it had better happen. What is really frustrating is we are the only Dakota school that has neither an FBS win nor a playoff win. Muss, are you listening? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I want an FBS win so bad I can almost taste it. We have easy FBS teams the next 2 years, so it had better happen. What is really frustrating is we are the only Dakota school that has neither an FBS win nor a playoff win. Muss, are you listening? Actually the next 3 with San Jose St in 2014, Wyoming in 2015, and Bowling Green in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 UND has had several contracts to sign the last being an every other year one that both Muss and Faison said no to. They wanted every year. We'll be fine next year as most 2's play half the game anyway. Actually Dan the last contract was at NDSU in 2015, and at UND in 2017 but nothing beyond that and it was being sent to GT to sign, I guess it got lost in the mail. http://www.wdaz.com/event/article/id/13745/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 UND has had several contracts to sign the last being an every other year one that both Muss and Faison said no to. They wanted every year. We'll be fine next year as most 2's play half the game anyway. As Darrell pointed out, Taylor was the one that has so far said no to the last contract offer. This has been going on for well over a year. Mussman and Faison were able to compromise. Taylor and Bohl haven't compromised, in fact they backed away from what they had originally discussed. Do you ever get tired of proving your ignorance for our entertainment? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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