iluvdebbies Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Let's see, Eades has a ton more coaching and life experience than Jackson, yet he was let go. Do you honestly believe that if the Sioux had the opportunity to bring in somebody like a Rick Wilson, James Patrick or Brad Berry, they wouldn't because Dane Jackson might be hurt? They could very well bring in someone who doesn't have a big profile, but I don't think it would be because Dane Jackson deserves to be second in command, it would be because they think they will be a complement to the staff and be a good chemistry fit with the staff and players. Exactly....if Hak was worried about hurting feelings he wouldn't have let Eades go. Quote
gfhockey Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 I have heard more news now to this situation. I will clear up a few things. This is from a former sioux player who is still very connected. It had nothing to do with any NCAA scandals, rules recruiting etc It had nothing to do with any affairs or any of that BS It was more over disagreements with coaching philosphies and personality clashes. Cary had ideas about what to do and would get a little mad when Hak wouldnt use them or try them out. Cary was totally blindsided with this annoucement and thought it would never get to this point but he accepts it and just wants to move on now. Quote
watchmaker49 Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 I think if we go back in time we'll see that Blais backed Hak all the way. So, this "affair" is just common knowledge around college hockey? Sounds very rumor mill-ish to me. Rumor-millish tend to be about 99.9% fact. Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted May 4, 2012 Posted May 4, 2012 Rumor-millish tend to be about 99.9% fact. In my experience rumors are wrong more than they are right. Quote
watchmaker49 Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 In my experience rumors are wrong more than they are right. I have found the opposite to be true. Quote
yzerman19 Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Not the first time that a CEO and VP had a fundamental difference in philosophy or vision and the VP moves on. It is business. I am guessing that it was all about business. Quote
siouxforce19 Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 I have found the opposite to be true. Talk to me when you're the one the rumors about and tell me how you feel then. 1 Quote
sioux rube Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Can anyone provide strengths/weaknesses of the potential candidates and why they may/may not apply? * Bomber * Steve Johnson * Herter * Berry * Litke * Fabian * _____________ I know for a fact Litke didn't make any friends in Bismarck when he coached the Bobcats. Quote
yzerman19 Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Hak has said its a restructure, so potentially the roles of recruiting and power play and defenseman might be split. Hak himself played D... A successful former pro as recruiter and D coach makes sense- Bombardir would be great, Herter too. Berry was awesome, but he might be a tough hire. A great offensive coach to run the power play, recruit, etc also maks sense- Steve Johnson fits that bill. If I were Hak, the ex d, I take over the d coaching personally, and bring Johnson in to recruit and coach forwards and the power play. Quote
passit_offthegoalie Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 I'm shocked that this guy is firing someone in his coaching staff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZnhuOEUFXA Quote
70'sguy Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 I know for a fact Litke didn't make any friends in Bismarck when he coached the Bobcats. What do you mean by this? Quote
Wilbur Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Okay, so lets pretend nobody had an affair, Blais didn't back Steve Johnson, Dane Litke didn't piss people off in Bismarck, Dave Hakstol isn't using Eades as a scapegoat, and Seth Jones wanted Eades out before he commits to UND. Maybe, just maybe, Hak wanted to get a coach on staff with more of a defensive background. But I guess when something like this happen skeletons need to be dragged out and good people need to be stabbed in the back. Quote
Blackheart Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 This whole thread is garbage. The only thing I haven't heard is that Eades was there that day in Dallas on the grassy knoll. Sad. 2 Quote
Wilbur Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 http://740thefan.com/upload/timh.mp3 Interesting interview with TH about the move. Sorry rumor lovers, just pretty straight forward hockey talk. Quote
I Ranger Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 During an interview, Hakstol didn’t get into details about the new roles and duties that Eades didn’t fit into, but he added: “I hope at the end of that hiring process that will answer your question in terms of what I would like to address. I don’t think it’s fair to get into that today at the front end. The result itself should answer that question.” I heard this weekend from a good source that we have found our guy and the quote above holds true. I don't think it will be a big surprise to anyone around here. Quote
yzerman19 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 During an interview, Hakstol didn’t get into details about the new roles and duties that Eades didn’t fit into, but he added: “I hope at the end of that hiring process that will answer your question in terms of what I would like to address. I don’t think it’s fair to get into that today at the front end. The result itself should answer that question.” I heard this weekend from a good source that we have found our guy and the quote above holds true. I don't think it will be a big surprise to anyone around here. I read that as Brad Berry and the defensemen Quote
What? Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 Perhaps the GPA's of the defensive corps were not up to standard and Hak feels a need for an associate head coach who will put a stronger emphasis on academics. Now thats funny!!! Quote
watchmaker49 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 I read that as Brad Berry and the defensemen Just as easily you could read it as Dane Litke. Though I really would like to see Bubba come back. Quote
crb1 Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 I heard this weekend from a good source that we have found our guy and the quote above holds true. I don't think it will be a big surprise to anyone around here. So who are you saying is that guy? Berry? Quote
SiouxForever Posted May 7, 2012 Posted May 7, 2012 I hope it's Jerry York. I concur. He's def. doing something right. I'm pretty sure he'd accept a pay cut for the good of the team. Quote
tnt Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 To those who think Hakstol is throwing Eades under the bus, I can only say that he is making a move that he thinks will better the team, right or wrong. I am certain he knows this means there will be more scrutiny of him going forward. I don't think Eades or Hakstol have to apologize for the success or perceived lack of success at UND The funny thing is that many of the perfectionist fans that scrutinize every little decision when the Sioux don't win it all, are the same ones that are scrutinizing a decision that was made in an attempt to better the team to make that next step to a National Championship. You can argue whether this was the right move to achieve that goal, but you got to admit that it was a bold move that will be scrutinized by everybody, including the administration if it doesn't work out. 2 Quote
nodak hockey fanatic Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 To all of those throwing the rumors around... here is what I think may be a logical thought process. Eades was the main recruiter (i.e. always on the road) and in charge of the defense. Eades is, I would guess, around 50 years old? Maybe he didn't want to spend all of his time on the road recruiting? Maybe he asked Hak to have someone younger with more energy do all the traveling and recruiting? And like many have speculated, maybe Hak wants a defensemen in charge of the defense? And yes, it can be as simple as that. Restructuring responsibilities, like someone taking over the increased recruitment? I'm sure we will know more in the weeks to come, but I don't think it has to be a huge conspiracy theory, and I don't think we need to spread personal life rumors about a coach who was and is a Fighting Sioux through and through. Thank you for the great years coach Eades and best of luck in your future endevours! Go Sioux! Quote
Greenbayguy Posted May 8, 2012 Posted May 8, 2012 To those who think Hakstol is throwing Eades under the bus, I can only say that he is making a move that he thinks will better the team, right or wrong. I am certain he knows this means there will be more scrutiny of him going forward. I don't think Eades or Hakstol have to apologize for the success or perceived lack of success at UND The funny thing is that many of the perfectionist fans that scrutinize every little decision when the Sioux don't win it all, are the same ones that are scrutinizing a decision that was made in an attempt to better the team to make that next step to a National Championship. You can argue whether this was the right move to achieve that goal, but you got to admit that it was a bold move that will be scrutinized by everybody, including the administration if it doesn't work out. The six year contract basically voids any scrutiny by the administration through the next four years. Assuming that just the base would be payable upon release, that kind of money is not easy to swallow. I'd say Hakstol has free reign for the near future. Hopefully that's a good thing. Quote
puck Posted May 8, 2012 Author Posted May 8, 2012 The job announcement provides a clue to the new direction for this assistant. (color added) Required Qualifications: • Bachelors' degree • Experience Working under NCAA Rules and Regulations • Interpersonal and Communications Skills • Experience Coaching/developing defensemen at the NCAA D1 level or above • Experience with in-game bench management of defensemen at the NCAA D1 level or above • Experience evaluating and recruiting players at NCAA D1 level or above • Experience with coaching/developing specialty teams play at the NCAA D1 level or above • Experience in the area of video breakdown and analysis at the NCAA D1 level or above • Playing experience as a defensemen at the NCAA D1 level • Experience designing and executing on-ice practice at the NCAA D1 level or above • Must have a thorough knowledge of and commitment to compliance and follow all NCAA, conference and UND rules and regulations • Must provide support and encouragement and ensure the safety and well being of student-athletes • Criminal History Background check Preferred Qualifications: • Playing experience as a defensemen at the NHL level • Coaching experience as a defensemen at the NHL level Quote
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