geaux_sioux Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 51 minutes ago, tnt said: All EDC is sometimes very subjective. A lot of times people think that players are a product of their team as a whole, which in some circumstances is correct. One loss in 40 games is impressive no matter which way you look at it. I put absolutely zero weight in all EDC or all state in ND, or anywhere for that matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said: I put absolutely zero weight in all EDC or all state in ND, or anywhere for that matter. I seem to remember Coach Chase not winning coach of the year after Red River went undefeated, am I remembering right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 37 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: I seem to remember Coach Chase not winning coach of the year after Red River went undefeated, am I remembering right? Not sure on that, but I know that there was some sort of thing where it cost money to be entered for consideration, so if someone doesn't pay the nomination fee, they are not up for consideration. Not sure how much of that is accurate, but that is what I heard. Maybe someone with a better understanding of the process can chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: I seem to remember Coach Chase not winning coach of the year after Red River went undefeated, am I remembering right? Plenty of HS coaches are complete hacks and highly biased and generally incapable of being objective when selecting anyone for honors. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 6 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Plenty of HS coaches are complete hacks and highly biased and generally incapable of being objective when selecting anyone for honors. Been in a few of those rooms and you wouldn't believe how petty people can be because a kid represents a certain school or region. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Rowe committed....another big get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 goalies in 3 days eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfaninseattle Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 11:20 AM, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: I seem to remember Coach Chase not winning coach of the year after Red River went undefeated, am I remembering right? On 10/16/2018 at 11:57 AM, tnt said: Not sure on that, but I know that there was some sort of thing where it cost money to be entered for consideration, so if someone doesn't pay the nomination fee, they are not up for consideration. Not sure how much of that is accurate, but that is what I heard. Maybe someone with a better understanding of the process can chime in. You are both correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: Rowe committed....another big get 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 When would Rowe get to campus? Great get for the staff, although I am pretty gun-shy on goalies after the whole Tomek disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: When would Rowe get to campus? Great get for the staff, although I am pretty gun-shy on goalies after the whole Tomek disaster. He should be here next year most likely. Don’t get the tomek correlation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: He should be here next year most likely. Don’t get the tomek correlation Expecting Thome or Scheel to leave after this season? I'd think it would be 2020 before we see Rowe come in as a 19 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: Don’t get the tomek correlation Tomek was a highly touted goalie and the highest drafted goalie in UND history who was a massive flop. Therefore, I'm a little hesitant to get super excited until we see him playing well under the bright lights of The Ralph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Neutral Zone gave him 4.5 when he committed to Omaha a little over a year ago. Supposedly he dropped them right before the AAPG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 51 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: Tomek was a highly touted goalie and the highest drafted goalie in UND history who was a massive flop. Therefore, I'm a little hesitant to get super excited until we see him playing well under the bright lights of The Ralph. The whole tomek situation was completely mishandled and he was brought in too early. Kid also had a poor team attitude. So hopefully Rowe is a good kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 59 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Expecting Thome or Scheel to leave after this season? I'd think it would be 2020 before we see Rowe come in as a 19 year old. Sure, but this kid is very highly toughted. If Thome and Scheel are playing well I would absolutely try and convince Rowe to play a year in the USHL. But if there is even a slight weakness at the goalie position I would bring him in. Either way the kid needs to play so I’d be fine either route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Would be nice to lock down another decommitted Cam as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodbuster Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, tnt said: Would be nice to lock down another decommitted Cam as well. And that would be who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFanatic Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 35 minutes ago, Sodbuster said: And that would be who? Cam York, NTDP defenseman. Highly likely to be a first round pick in 2019 NHL draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, SiouxFanatic said: Cam York, NTDP defenseman. Highly likely to be a first round pick in 2019 NHL draft. Can he score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodbuster Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said: Can he score? Geez, I sure hope so ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 With Tomek, you have to remember that he was injured, and that affected him greatly. He had his hips go bad on him between Phliiy dev camp and the season I believe. The handling of that injury was suspect but at the same time he developed a terrible team attitude and didnt develop a work ethic like he needed to recover, let alone compete. His world junior showing earned him a chance but ultimately, he just didnt fit. Hope for him he makes the best out of what he has available to him now..... but I would be very leary of recruiting oversees players, too many variables and due diligence is much more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Next year. 2019-2020 Thome - Junior Scheel - Sophomore Rowe USHL Kaleb Johnson USHL or the 3rd goalie?? as "Bob" Anderson will have graduated. 2020 - 2021 Thome - leaves? or senior? Scheel - Junior Rowe - Freshman Johnson 3rd goalie? 2021 - 2022 Scheel - Senior Rowe - Sophomore Johnson - 3rd Goalie 2022 - 2023 Rowe - Junior Johnson Junior or senior 3rd goalie. I dont see a blue chip goalie waiting that long to be the #1 guy.... I wonder if.... I REALLY REALLY hope Thome and Scheel are that good that they both advance by leaving early after nattys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said: Next year. 2019-2020 Thome - Junior Scheel - Sophomore Rowe USHL Kaleb Johnson USHL or the 3rd goalie?? as "Bob" Anderson will have graduated. 2020 - 2021 Thome - leaves? or senior? Scheel - Junior Rowe - Freshman Johnson 3rd goalie? 2021 - 2022 Scheel - Senior Rowe - Sophomore Johnson - 3rd Goalie 2022 - 2023 Rowe - Junior Johnson Junior or senior 3rd goalie. I dont see a blue chip goalie waiting that long to be the #1 guy.... I wonder if.... I REALLY REALLY hope Thome and Scheel are that good that they both advance by leaving early after nattys. Neither do I. However, goalies are always an interesting position. If the Thome/Scheel combo prove to be a great tandem I think you see Rowe play a season in the USHL next season and get a ton of action. The flip side of that is that will probably count as one less year at UND. He'll be drafted pretty early. I would guess he signs three years after his draft year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said: Next year. 2019-2020 Thome - Junior Scheel - Sophomore Rowe USHL Kaleb Johnson USHL or the 3rd goalie?? as "Bob" Anderson will have graduated. 2020 - 2021 Thome - leaves? or senior? Scheel - Junior Rowe - Freshman Johnson 3rd goalie? 2021 - 2022 Scheel - Senior Rowe - Sophomore Johnson - 3rd Goalie 2022 - 2023 Rowe - Junior Johnson Junior or senior 3rd goalie. I dont see a blue chip goalie waiting that long to be the #1 guy.... I wonder if.... I REALLY REALLY hope Thome and Scheel are that good that they both advance by leaving early after nattys. If he's a B prospect for the draft, who says he going to be the one on the bench? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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