Facilities Master Plan

[fightingsioux4life]

14 hours ago, SiouxFan100 said:

We just have a lot of programs that under perform - soccer being one of them

FYP

[iramurphy]

On 10/25/2024 at 11:27 AM, gfhockey said:

But the grass is too long and there’s no dr. 

Length of grass should be at the direction of the head coach depending on whether he or she wants to slow pace of play. If the demand is artificial turf, that isn’t a legitimate complaint as long as the field is properly tended to. 

Having a physician on the sideline isn’t necessary as long as you have an experienced quality athletic trainer. With soccer, the most important, potentially serious injury would be a head or neck injury. A serious neck injury is extremely rare. A concussion is not uncommon. There is no reason to allow any player with a questionable concussion to return to play. Concussions without other neurological deterioration, don’t need emergency evaluation. An athletic trainer should have the appropriate training and experience to evaluate concussions. A mid-level provider, Physician’s Asst (PA) or Nurse Practitioner (NP), with sports med and/or Sports Med experience would be a good idea for Men’s or Women’s soccer. They could provide supervision for the trainer and suture lacerations on the sidelines if necessary. 
 

Restrooms on the sidelines would be rare. Restrooms close by are reasonable. The rentable trailers with sinks, mirrors, private stalls that many outdoor weddings/events have for all home soccer games dedicated to the team should take care of that complaint. 

[The Sicatoka]

Quit being rational @iramurphy.

[forksandspoons]

 

[nodak651]

On 10/27/2024 at 10:00 PM, Oxbow6 said:

And turf

Anyone remember this?

Soccer Players Sue Over Proposed Turf Field For Women's World Cup

Team USA soccer player Heather O'Reilly talks about the lawsuit she and other players from the U.S. and abroad have filed against FIFA and the Canadian Soccer Association. Turf fields are planned for the 2015 Women's World Cup, while their male counterparts played on grass, thought to be a superior playing surface. The players are alleging gender discrimination.

 

MARTIN: You have filed this case claiming gender discrimination, which is a big claim so let's start by unpacking the difference between turf and grass. Why is it so different for players?

O'REILLY: The main difference is - to be quite honest - is an injury issue or a health issue.

MARTIN: How so?

O'REILLY: You know, slide tackling on grass - you know, you get up, you shake the grass off, get the dirt off. On turf unfortunately, a little layer of your skin comes up with every slide tackle so you get turf burns. Those diving headers that are so exciting on the world stage aren't going to happen on artificial turf because you can get injured. So it changes the game quite a bit - one on the injury side. Two - it changes the game just on the soccer end. The ball just moves quite a bit faster on turf so you know, it's out of bounds a lot, there's a lot of throw-ins, things like that. And it's also quite a bit more bouncy. It doesn't roll as easily as it may on grass and it just loses the rhythm of the game and the fluidity of the game.

O'REILLY: I think the game has made a lot of strides through the years, but at the end of the day, I think that this is a blatant demonstration of FIFA not placing the women side by side with the men. You know, many men's players refuse to play on artificial turf, actually and the thought of it being played in the World Cup is almost laughable.

[gfhockey]

We have grass right?

[FSSD]

3 hours ago, gfhockey said:

We have grass right?

Yes, but apparently we don't mow it enough/or properly according to those in the know.

[geaux_sioux]

On 11/26/2024 at 1:24 PM, nodak651 said:

Anyone remember this?

Soccer Players Sue Over Proposed Turf Field For Women's World Cup

Team USA soccer player Heather O'Reilly talks about the lawsuit she and other players from the U.S. and abroad have filed against FIFA and the Canadian Soccer Association. Turf fields are planned for the 2015 Women's World Cup, while their male counterparts played on grass, thought to be a superior playing surface. The players are alleging gender discrimination.

 

MARTIN: You have filed this case claiming gender discrimination, which is a big claim so let's start by unpacking the difference between turf and grass. Why is it so different for players?

O'REILLY: The main difference is - to be quite honest - is an injury issue or a health issue.

MARTIN: How so?

O'REILLY: You know, slide tackling on grass - you know, you get up, you shake the grass off, get the dirt off. On turf unfortunately, a little layer of your skin comes up with every slide tackle so you get turf burns. Those diving headers that are so exciting on the world stage aren't going to happen on artificial turf because you can get injured. So it changes the game quite a bit - one on the injury side. Two - it changes the game just on the soccer end. The ball just moves quite a bit faster on turf so you know, it's out of bounds a lot, there's a lot of throw-ins, things like that. And it's also quite a bit more bouncy. It doesn't roll as easily as it may on grass and it just loses the rhythm of the game and the fluidity of the game.

O'REILLY: I think the game has made a lot of strides through the years, but at the end of the day, I think that this is a blatant demonstration of FIFA not placing the women side by side with the men. You know, many men's players refuse to play on artificial turf, actually and the thought of it being played in the World Cup is almost laughable.

Yes, as I was saying. Soccer is to be played on grass.

[Oxbow6]

6 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Yes, as I was saying. Soccer is to be played on grass.

So the only winless Summit team this season is the only team that plays on grass (IIRC).......and it's the furthest school to the north.

[nodak651]

12 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

So the only winless Summit team this season is the only team that plays on grass (IIRC).......and it's the furthest school to the north.

The current HC was here when the field was reseeded/renovated, and I remember him raving about it.  If grass is that bad, I'm curious if he ever advocated for turf.  He seemed genuinely excited for the renovated field (and practice field).  

[geaux_sioux]

3 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

So the only winless Summit team this season is the only team that plays on grass (IIRC).......and it's the furthest school to the north.

Judging by their complaints they wouldn’t win if they played at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium. 

[nodak651]

Grass looks pretty good to me

[nodak651]

[gfhockey]

Yeah but it’s not cut high enough

[90siouxfan]

Maybe if they quit running around on it, the grass would be in better shape....   your welcome. 

[HockeyHawk]

1 hour ago, nodak651 said:

Grass looks pretty good to me

The grass does look nice. The rest of the facility sucks though when you drive to Columbia you would think it is an intramural filed not a D1 complex. How does it compare to other soccer complexes in the Summit? 

[UND92,96]

1 hour ago, HockeyHawk said:

The grass does look nice. The rest of the facility sucks though when you drive to Columbia you would think it is an intramural filed not a D1 complex. How does it compare to other soccer complexes in the Summit? 

NDSU plays at a refurbished Dacotah Field. It’s a pretty nice facility with artificial turf. They won the conference this season. 
 

SDSU plays at a municipal facility well off campus with natural grass turf. It’s a fairly similar situation to when UND softball played at Apollo. They still seem to do well, finishing third this season. 

[HockeyHawk]

3 hours ago, UND92,96 said:

NDSU plays at a refurbished Dacotah Field. It’s a pretty nice facility with artificial turf. They won the conference this season. 
 

SDSU plays at a municipal facility well off campus with natural grass turf. It’s a fairly similar situation to when UND softball played at Apollo. They still seem to do well, finishing third this season. 

 

https://gojacks.com/facilities/fishback-soccer-park/5

 

Looks like a legit soccer complex. Seems like UND has a long way to go to match the other Dakota schools with a soccer facility. Big question is- should UND even be investing in soccer when the sports the fan base cares more about are really struggling? Should't the money go to those sports? The needle isn't being moved at UND regardless of how soccer does. I think more people would be happy if we push more funding into making sure we get the right football coach than in upgrading a bad soccer facility.

[The Sicatoka]

https://blogs.und.edu/und-today/2024/11/for-und-athletics-a-division-i-place-to-live/ 

[forksandspoons]

Yet another remodeled building on the nicest campus in the Midwest! 
 

 

[nodak651]

Looks like UND put out a feeler for a P3 project in the NW corner of campus, near the old Dunder.

Goal and Background Information

"The following background information is intended to help respondents understand the needs of the UND.

The University of North Dakota (“UND” or “University”) seeks interest in the development of
university land, either under a long-term ground lease or through a direct land purchase from
UND. The Development Site (“3A”) is located on 6th Avenue North on the south side of the street
between North 42nd Street and the vacated State Street, one block west of Stanford Rd. The 3A
Development Site is approximately twenty acres.

The 3A Site will either be one large development parcel or could be broken out into smaller
individual parcels upon consultation with and approval by UND Leadership. A Defined “phased”
approach to development will be considered. Approximately half of 3A is vacant and ready for
development, while the remainder currently has five existing multi-family residential apartment
buildings (see Figure 1).

With interest, a subsequent request will be released with greater detail obtained following the
results of this request."

[nodak651]

Anyone know what the plan is for Ray Richards if the underpass goes in as currently (I think) planned?  There is going to be a road going through two or three holes and the course will need to redone to remain operational.  The underpass caused the P3 building with housing and a Top Golf-like operation to get put on hold.  Has anyone heard anything yet about what the University is thinking?

[UNDBIZ]

3 hours ago, nodak651 said:

Looks like UND put out a feeler for a P3 project in the NW corner of campus, near the old Dunder.

Goal and Background Information

"The following background information is intended to help respondents understand the needs of the UND.

The University of North Dakota (“UND” or “University”) seeks interest in the development of
university land, either under a long-term ground lease or through a direct land purchase from
UND. The Development Site (“3A”) is located on 6th Avenue North on the south side of the street
between North 42nd Street and the vacated State Street, one block west of Stanford Rd. The 3A
Development Site is approximately twenty acres.

The 3A Site will either be one large development parcel or could be broken out into smaller
individual parcels upon consultation with and approval by UND Leadership. A Defined “phased”
approach to development will be considered. Approximately half of 3A is vacant and ready for
development, while the remainder currently has five existing multi-family residential apartment
buildings (see Figure 1).

With interest, a subsequent request will be released with greater detail obtained following the
results of this request."

Since they're going up everywhere these days, this could be a great location for a senior living facility if UND isn't going to use it.  College athletics, other events, and workforce all nearby.

[gfhockey]

Not sure where to put this but dang they sure passed and left us behind all while Chavez on the watch!

 

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/ndsus-athletic-endowment-tops-100-million

[jdub27]

26 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Not sure where to put this but dang they sure passed and left us behind all while Chavez on the watch!

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/ndsus-athletic-endowment-tops-100-million

They just finished a giant fundraising drive (which correlates with their spike) and UND Is in the middle of one. The drive has significant focus on endowments across campus.