scpa0305 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 11 hours ago, tnt said: I wouldn’t get too giddy at Minnesota’s misfortune because if NIL continues to play a big role, they are better positioned with all the major companies and money floating around than we are. We can only hope that Schlossman is right and that the NCAA will be forced to take a closer look at NIL to prevent college sports from being a farce. Personally, I prefer the academic rewards slant that UND is taking. Worried about this too. We wouldn’t be able to compete with the big schools. Especially with the transfer rules the way they are…perfect storm to lose commits and players. Not sure I like where all this is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I wouldn't be too worried about NIL and situations like Eiserman. If a player has good academic standing, between the Alston Award and FCOA, a player would receive around 10K a year from UND. How many players are getting the "Eiserman" treatment? You would think it would be a very select group every year. How many of those players would have gone East anyway? UND has positioned itself just fine in the college landscape between the Alston and FCOA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 8 hours ago, siouxforce19 said: I also heard about it on a podcast being more related to family. So I’m more inclined to go with that reasoning. Especially when you consider he has been away from home for a while between his time at the NTDP and Shattuck. Considering how much money he is poised to make down the road, this would make more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 No matter what else the HEA schools couldn't let a Massachusetts kid end up in the B1G much less Goldie-ville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, scpa0305 said: Worried about this too. We wouldn’t be able to compete with the big schools. Especially with the transfer rules the way they are…perfect storm to lose commits and players. Not sure I like where all this is going. I suppose you are always going to get guys that follow the money, but maybe a lot of the elite players won't be as concerned about the short term gain, and want to train and develop in a pro-type atmosphere that UND has to offer. As long as we get our fair share of guys that are of the 2-3 year college route elite players we should be fine. Will be interesting to see if the NCAA makes some major tweaks to NIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 39 minutes ago, tnt said: I suppose you are always going to get guys that follow the money, but maybe a lot of the elite players won't be as concerned about the short term gain, and want to train and develop in a pro-type atmosphere that UND has to offer. As long as we get our fair share of guys that are of the 2-3 year college route elite players we should be fine. Will be interesting to see if the NCAA makes some major tweaks to NIL. It's a little like the jury system. The question is not only whether juries are better fact-finders (than judges making the decisions) but also whether the public's confidence in the outcome is greater with juries. The real effect of NIL on small market schools may not be that significant (I tend to think it will be), but it may be that fan confidence (lack of) in the fairness of the system will still be a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, tnt said: I suppose you are always going to get guys that follow the money, but maybe a lot of the elite players won't be as concerned about the short term gain, and want to train and develop in a pro-type atmosphere that UND has to offer. As long as we get our fair share of guys that are of the 2-3 year college route elite players we should be fine. Will be interesting to see if the NCAA makes some major tweaks to NIL. Completely agree and hockey is a tough game, meaning it’s a late bloomer sport. You can always backfill with overagers to be competitive. But I’ve seen the landscape change over the past 5-7 years. I was fairly confident the Big10 would beef up extremely quick…and they have. From a recruiting perspective. Just something to consider when blue chips commit. Currently it looks like we have 1-2 of them (emery and Boisvert). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 https://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/craig-s-list-macklin-celebrini-cole-eiserman-in-tight-race-for-top-spot-for-2024-nhl-draft-1.2013672 Some recognizable former prospect names, plus Emery and Boisvert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Forwards: James Hagens (BC) LJ Mooney Zachary Morin (BU) Cullen Potter (Mich St) Cole McKinney (Mich) William Moore Lukas Sawchyn Andrew O'Neill (UND) Masun Fleece (PSU) Jake Stuart Cooper Simpson (UND) Defensemen: Logan Hensler (UW) Sascha Boumedienne Sam Laurila (UND) Garrett Lindberg Charlie Trethewey (BU) Drew Schock (Mich) Jacob Rombach Carter Murphy Goalies: Caleb Heil (UND) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/und-lands-commitment-from-shakopee-forward-cooper-simpson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 18 hours ago, brianvf said: A cherry on top of this news would be if Mooney committed to UND today. 16 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Not quite … @brianvf, this make more sense today*? *Simpson not Mooney off the Schloss-list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: @brianvf, this make more sense today*? *Simpson not Mooney off the Schloss-list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Jake Stuart committed to Denver a few days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Ranger Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: @brianvf, this make more sense today*? *Simpson not Mooney off the Schloss-list. On that front, does all these commits help or hurt our chances of landing Mooney now? It sure seems like we might be done especially if we can land Lindberg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 With his cousin Cooley now a 'yote, I suspect Mooney is looking B1G or east. I could be wrong and I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised. I'd guess Lindberg is the top call they still have high hopes to get. My pipeline tracking chart says they're likely close to done save for those mentioned or a goalie (a third to replace KJ Cheese). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: With his cousin Cooley now a 'yote, I suspect Mooney is looking B1G or east. I could be wrong and I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised. I'd guess Lindberg is the top call they still have high hopes to get. My pipeline tracking chart says they're likely close to done save for those mentioned or a goalie (a third to replace KJ Cheese). I really do not think Mooney has any plans to go East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, siouxforce19 said: I really do not think Mooney has any plans to go East. He's still a Pittsburgh kid. I rule nothing out now that Cooley is gone. But east won't surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: He's still a Pittsburgh kid. I rule nothing out now that Cooley is gone. But east won't surprise me. UND and Minnesota have been said to be his top choices for months now. And based on his Instagram, that checks out. So unless that has changed, I just don’t expect him to go East. Also - if he doesn’t go to Minnesota, I think someone may need to check on their fans. I think they are going to lose it real soon. (If they haven’t already) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadR Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 8 hours ago, siouxforce19 said: UND and Minnesota have been said to be his top choices for months now. And based on his Instagram, that checks out. So unless that has changed, I just don’t expect him to go East. Also - if he doesn’t go to Minnesota, I think someone may need to check on their fans. I think they are going to lose it real soon. (If they haven’t already) Recruiting is so cyclical. We were in Minnesota's boat very recently where we lost out on a bunch of recruits. We've had some good luck recently, but every team knows that won't last forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ChadR said: Recruiting is so cyclical. We were in Minnesota's boat very recently where we lost out on a bunch of recruits. We've had some good luck recently, but every team knows that won't last forever. It’s not like Ziemer, Whipple, Phillips, Grimes, Townsend and Hendrickson aren’t elite recruits, it’s just that they aren’t quite to the elite level of a Cooley or Eiserman, but few are. We haven’t got that elite of the elite recruit much either, and the one we did, Sanderson, we got before he was really recognized as elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Baker Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Not sure which thread is best to post this question, but... Does anyone have a list of the top 20ish 06 and 07 recruits? (I know there is Schlossman's list, but I understand that to be a mix a high-end talent, players UND will be pursuing, and more local names. I am wondering if there is more objective (to the extent possible) list of the top recruits out there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Benny Baker said: Not sure which thread is best to post this question, but... Does anyone have a list of the top 20ish 06 and 07 recruits? (I know there is Schlossman's list, but I understand that to be a mix a high-end talent, players UND will be pursuing, and more local names. I am wondering if there is more objective (to the extent possible) list of the top recruits out there). Here's who Chris Heisenberg is tracking for 2024: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gNRdKGXtofb4ti6cX3nVF9JbAilk4SkCMZM6-Df_zgo/edit#gid=1310221579 And 2023: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w4Zo5azvRWMiuN4Puxj5aRRhwOGmt-DENEsRapKxmfI/edit#gid=1310221579 His lists are not "rankings" per se but general positioning (higher on list is better). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, Benny Baker said: Not sure which thread is best to post this question, but... Does anyone have a list of the top 20ish 06 and 07 recruits? (I know there is Schlossman's list, but I understand that to be a mix a high-end talent, players UND will be pursuing, and more local names. I am wondering if there is more objective (to the extent possible) list of the top recruits out there). Puckpreps would be what you’re looking for. Rank by birth year. Almost all the information is behind a paywall, but you can search and find everyone’s rankings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 35 minutes ago, Benny Baker said: Not sure which thread is best to post this question, but... Does anyone have a list of the top 20ish 06 and 07 recruits? (I know there is Schlossman's list, but I understand that to be a mix a high-end talent, players UND will be pursuing, and more local names. I am wondering if there is more objective (to the extent possible) list of the top recruits out there). Puck Preps does the best job from my end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Omaha picked up a commitment from a 1st round QMJHL pick in Jeremy Loranger. We'll see if he ends up on campus, but good work by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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