The Sicatoka Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 @Sioux>Bison are you drinkin' buddies with @gfhockey. You both have the same Debbie-downer complex. 1 1 Quote
brianvf Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 3:59 PM, Sioux>Bison said: So if we go 0 for 5 or even 1 for 5 are any of you ready to realize this program is no longer elite? Doesn’t mean we still can’t have a good program but titles seem pretty far off for this coaching staff……. Expand I heard that if we only go 1 for 5, UND is planning on folding the program. No longer elite, so what's the point? They'll probably pull them all off the ice during a practice to let them know that the program is done. 2 1 Quote
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 Seeing that McMorrow chose Denver over UND and UMD is rough. Coffee is for closers, 2 is not a winner, etc. 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 3:57 PM, Sioux>Bison said: That’s what happens when you win titles. Can’t blame a kid that wants to win a title….. Expand And that is why NCAA titles matter, despite what some people on here think. 1 Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 5:53 PM, fightingsioux4life said: And that is why NCAA titles matter, despite what some people on here think. Expand Who on here is saying that NCAA titles don't matter? If you can find ONE, please show me because that is dumb. Most on here are saying that it's WAY harder to win a title now than it used to be. There are those that don't want to recognize that. So be it. 2 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 If "titles matter" how'd Cooley end up at UMn (2003) and not UND (2016) when it was down to those two. Titles are one factor in an n-dimensional array of thoughts and concerns these kids (and they are kids) have. 1 1 2 Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 6:01 PM, The Sicatoka said: If "titles matter" how'd Cooley end up at UMn (2003) and not UND (2016) when it was down to those two. Expand *** Moves goal post*** 1 2 Quote
gfhockey Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 6:01 PM, The Sicatoka said: If "titles matter" how'd Cooley end up at UMn (2003) and not UND (2016) when it was down to those two. Titles are one factor in an n-dimensional array of thoughts and concerns these kids (and they are kids) have. Expand NIL and a big ten education 1 Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 6:38 PM, gfhockey said: NIL and a big ten education Expand LOL @ the idea of a Big 10 education for a blue chippa recruit. *** Moves goal post, again *** 1 1 Quote
siouxkid12 Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 6:38 PM, gfhockey said: NIL and a big ten education Expand Big Ten education? Please, he is a 3rd overall selection. He probably isn't taking anything hard as he knows he will probably only be in Minnesota for a couple seasons (or maybe even one). Again, being a 3rd overall selection will get him NIL deals anywhere. Just imagine what Toews, Parise or even Oshie would've gotten if they had NIL's back when they played. 1 2 1 Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 4:11 PM, brianvf said: I heard that if we only go 1 for 5, UND is planning on folding the program. No longer elite, so what's the point? They'll probably pull them all off the ice during a practice to let them know that the program is done. Expand UND is no longer relevant outside of Grand Forks. Not sure what you puck heads don’t get about that…… not sure I am fine with a dying program 2 Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 4:06 PM, stoneySIOUX said: We already landed a top tier recruit in Boisvert. So, if we get one more, two more, etc.... would you then consider us elite? Feels like we keep moving the goalposts to satisfy people getting grumpy when we don't win a title. Expand Titles are all that matter, screw good seasons when you cant win it all! I had enough of that in college. The season gets boring when you consistently choke when it matters most. 1 Quote
brianvf Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 7:37 PM, Sioux>Bison said: UND is no longer relevant outside of Grand Forks. Not sure what you puck heads don’t get about that…… not sure I am fine with a dying program Expand You realize that UND has one of the highest rated incoming freshman classes this year, right? Our freshmen forward group is elite. How did that happen if UND isn't relevant outside of GF? And how did that happen despite UND not winning a title since 2016? Your definition of a dying program is vastly different than mine. 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 I've seen two different 2023 mock drafts that have Jayden Perron going late first round. I've seen Strathmann projected mid second. As I've said, last year they came up huge, and not just for 2022, but for 2023 and maybe 2024. That has to have some impact this year. (Guys know where other guys are.) But yet, somehow, Boisvert is coming now also. And I do expect more. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 7:40 PM, Sioux>Bison said: Titles are all that matter, screw good seasons when you cant win it all! I had enough of that in college. The season gets boring when you consistently choke when it matters most. Expand So, I'm confused.... you just said that we wouldn't be elite anymore if we don't land a couple of the guys on this list someone on here put together. Which one is it? Can it be both?!?!?! Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 7:37 PM, Sioux>Bison said: UND is no longer relevant outside of Grand Forks. Not sure what you puck heads don’t get about that…… not sure I am fine with a dying program Expand This is just not true. Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 8:22 PM, stoneySIOUX said: This is just not true. Expand What bars in the state play UND hockey games as much or more than NDSU football games? UND is barely followed anymore in the state. Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 8:14 PM, brianvf said: You realize that UND has one of the highest rated incoming freshman classes this year, right? Our freshmen forward group is elite. How did that happen if UND isn't relevant outside of GF? And how did that happen despite UND not winning a title since 2016? Your definition of a dying program is vastly different than mine. Expand If that’s the case we better be winning a national title this year. If we don’t make it to the frozen four it WILL be a disappointment! Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 8:25 PM, Sioux>Bison said: What bars in the state play UND hockey games as much or more than NDSU football games? UND is barely followed anymore in the state. Expand Again, it's just not true. Many, many, many bars play UND hockey games, every single game. Again, so much anecdotal evidence for you to want to beg us into your premise of us not being an elite program. I don't really understand your motivation. If you don't enjoy UND's current recruiting pipeline, I don't really know what else I can say to convince you otherwise. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 Dylan James went #40 overall in the 2022 draft. Put 'er up on blocks. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 8:26 PM, Sioux>Bison said: If that’s the case we better be winning a national title this year. If we don’t make it to the frozen four it WILL be a disappointment! Expand Definitely agree with this. With that said, even if we don't, it will be disappointing. That doesn't change our pipeline after this season, however. UND is recruiting very. very well right now. 1 Quote
brianvf Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 8:26 PM, Sioux>Bison said: If that’s the case we better be winning a national title this year. If we don’t make it to the frozen four it WILL be a disappointment! Expand I don't know, it's usually hard for dying programs to win national titles. But I'll keep my fingers crossed for this season! Quote
The Sicatoka Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 8:25 PM, Sioux>Bison said: What bars in the state play UND hockey games as much or more than NDSU football games? UND is barely followed anymore in the state. Expand The problem is not lack of interest. It's lack of engagement to remind the bars when games are on. UND should be sending the "schedule poster" with Midco games highlighted to every bar in the state. 1 Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 8:27 PM, stoneySIOUX said: Again, it's just not true. Many, many, many bars play UND hockey games, every single game. Again, so much anecdotal evidence for you to want to beg us into your premise of us not being an elite program. I don't really understand your motivation. If you don't enjoy UND's current recruiting pipeline, I don't really know what else I can say to convince you otherwise. Expand I just feel the program is sliding the wrong direction and it’s not just our recruiting that is the main concern. How many radio stations in ND/MN broadcast the hockey games until our recently announced deal? 2 or 3? When I go into a sports bar and I only see green and gold it gets a guy worked up! Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 8:31 PM, brianvf said: I don't know, it's usually hard for dying programs to win national titles. But I'll keep my fingers crossed for this season! Expand Non elite programs have made it to the frozen four and won titles. Providence ring a bell? Quote
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