UND1983 Posted Tuesday at 08:21 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:21 PM UND has won ONE national championship with Dane Jackson on the staff. In 19 years. They fire the head guy to hire him? 1 3 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted Tuesday at 08:21 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:21 PM 3 hours ago, Cratter said: "We're sending you a nice Piper Cherokee to pick you up." "Who's the pilot?" "UND graduate Kendal Swanson." "I think I'll drive." LJ V wasn't available? 4 Quote
Sioux_FF Posted Tuesday at 08:21 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:21 PM 1 hour ago, siouxkid12 said: I understand what you are saying and I agree with you. Hiring Hak or Dane is the "safe" bet that Chaves can make, but will he? This hire will make or break Chaves's time here at UND, hockey is THE sport that UND has and cannot miss on this. Will he take the safe bet and hire from within, or will he gamble and hire a younger coach that is moving through the ranks? I will say this though, no matter what happens, I do feel that Karl's time here at UND should be done also. I'm not sure why he has gotten a pass as long as he has (lets be real, it's because he is family) as he was brought here with the hopes of developing goalies and various of other reasons. This made me wonder if an outside hire is made, and he brings in an all new staff......is UND on the hook for any buyout $$S on current assistants or do they simply lose their jobs without compensation? Quote
siouxweet Posted Tuesday at 08:22 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:22 PM 14 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: Here's what I've been told. Dave wanted to wait until after the NHL regular season to see if he'll land an NHL job, but the University didn't think that was an option. Dave has fully endorsed Dane. He's currently the frontrunner, but there is mutual interest from Blashill and another external candidate (hoping Raboin). If it's Dane it won't be what we want but he has had numerous opportunities to leave for the NHL w/ Dave and has stayed loyal to UND hoping that he would eventually get this job. I think Dane deserves a shot. I think all of the current players respect Dane and I don't think the transfers will be as bad if he gets it. Then the question is why they didn't just let Brad finish out his contract. 1. The off the ice issues and divided locker room were concerning. 2. What do you tell future recruits about the coaching if there isn't a deal in place knowing Brad's contract was going to expire. All things are pointing towards it being Dane. Wouldn't the divided locker room and off ice fall on Jackson's shoulders as well if he is the associate head coach? 1 Quote
crb1 Posted Tuesday at 08:23 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:23 PM 6 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: The one answer that results in an immediate no is if the answer to any of those is #culture Or “At the end of the day” “Full 60 minutes” Quote
RhettRingers Posted Tuesday at 08:23 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:23 PM Just now, siouxweet said: Wouldn't the divided locker room and off ice fall on Jackson's shoulders as well if he is the associate head coach? I was told Dane wanted to handle it differently. 1 Quote
Blackheart Posted Tuesday at 08:24 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:24 PM 1 minute ago, siouxweet said: Wouldn't the divided locker room and off ice fall on Jackson's shoulders as well if he is the associate head coach? Yeah, that's why they should wipe the slate clean and start fresh. 1 Quote
yzerman19 Posted Tuesday at 08:25 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:25 PM The ties to the program or community are important for one primary reason- the new guy and his family. Somebody who spent their life in Boston might love the opportunity to run UND hockey, but convincing wife and kids might not be the easiest thing. Not ripping GF, just saying its a rural community at the northwestern edge (other than AK) of D1 hockey with really rough winters. Can't have a guy take this job and have his family unhappy. 1 Quote
gfhockey Posted Tuesday at 08:25 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:25 PM 3 minutes ago, Sioux_FF said: This made me wonder if an outside hire is made, and he brings in an all new staff......is UND on the hook for any buyout $$S on current assistants or do they simply lose their jobs without compensation? Why would the assistants have multi year contracts? I know some of the bigger time football schools doe Quote
yzerman19 Posted Tuesday at 08:26 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:26 PM 3 minutes ago, Sioux_FF said: This made me wonder if an outside hire is made, and he brings in an all new staff......is UND on the hook for any buyout $$S on current assistants or do they simply lose their jobs without compensation? I think Assistants have contracts too, so whatever it says in there. Quote
Wilbur Posted Tuesday at 08:27 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:27 PM 6 minutes ago, AJS said: The divided locker room was on Berry and the Senior class? How he handled the 27 situation? If you put it this way, I'm fairly optimistic. You get rid of Berry + the all-time worst Senior class. Bright days ahead for the program! Sad to say, but spot on on the senior class. Addition by subtraction. 1 Quote
Blackheart Posted Tuesday at 08:27 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:27 PM Just now, yzerman19 said: I think Assistants have contracts too, so whatever it says in there. I thought they were unpaid volunteers. Quote
yzerman19 Posted Tuesday at 08:28 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:28 PM 1 minute ago, gfhockey said: Why would the assistants have multi year contracts? I know some of the bigger time football schools doe Might have a guaranteed severence package in the event of a change in leadership...like a change of control provision Quote
yzerman19 Posted Tuesday at 08:29 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:29 PM Just now, Blackheart said: I thought they were unpaid volunteers. I've seen those labeled as volunteer assistant coach as opposed to assistant coach on staff listings Quote
crb1 Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM Gosh I hope I am wrong but I now feel Chaves is going to make the safe bet and totally crap the bed on this one. 2 Quote
Speed_Kills Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM My frustrations if Dane is the pick (regardless if he and Berry disagree): 1) He's in that room, too. Off-ice and locker room fall on all involved. 2) His main duties on the team were recruitment, forwards, penalty kill. All 3 areas that have struggled as of late. The forwards outside of a few - and definitely not in the higher skill players - showed little compete. The penalty kill was ranked 50-something in the country. There's also no guarantee players stay. There are a couple that will absolutely jump in the portal because Dane is the guy. He's not universally loved in the locker room. 1 Quote
yzerman19 Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM 6 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: I was told Dane wanted to handle it differently. Wow...if this is true, that is telling Quote
F'n Hawks Posted Tuesday at 08:31 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:31 PM Although I know more about football and a bigger fan there, I have enjoyed reading this thread. Some good laughs. I think UND nailed the football hire but time will tell. An athletic department with football and hockey both doing well will be a great thing for this university and all us die hard fans. Quote
Popular Post AJS Posted Tuesday at 08:31 PM Popular Post Posted Tuesday at 08:31 PM At 3:30pm on Tuesday, March 25, I do absolutely believe what @RhettRingers and that Jackson is the frontrunner. Let's see in 24 hours. Although I'm mentally preparing for it, there's also not one logical reason why it would end up being Jackson. Not saying he'll do a bad job, but that would be an all-time failure from the AD. He would have always been a finalist, based on open records, but I would never have thought he would have been on paper a top 5 candidate. What a sad candidate pool that must have been. 1 5 Quote
gfhockey Posted Tuesday at 08:34 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:34 PM 2 minutes ago, AJS said: At 3:30pm on Tuesday, March 25, I do absolutely believe what @RhettRingers and that Jackson is the frontrunner. Let's see in 24 hours. Although I'm mentally preparing for it, there's also not one logical reason why it would end up being Jackson. Not saying he'll do a bad job, but that would be an all-time failure from the AD. He would have always been a finalist, based on open records, but I would never have thought he would have been on paper a top 5 candidate. What a sad candidate pool that must have been. Shows how far the ad and program has fallen 1 Quote
AJS Posted Tuesday at 08:37 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:37 PM From a timeline, no news is good news for those hoping it won't be Jackson. Prediction. Thursday: Jackson, Friday / Saturday: Someone else Quote
siouxkid12 Posted Tuesday at 08:40 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:40 PM Just now, crb1 said: Gosh I hope I am wrong but I now feel Chaves is going to make the safe bet and totally crap the bed on this one. If Dane is hired, how is that crapping the bed? Look, we all want what's best for UND but none of us are truly "in the know" of what goes on and how to lead a program. Could the longtime assistant finally get his chance to show the world what he can do as a head coach or does an outside coach come in and totally fumble the ball and drags the program down? 2 1 Quote
SIOUXELEVENS Posted Tuesday at 08:41 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:41 PM Maybe working for Berry the assistants didn’t have much of a say in style of play, lineups or PK or PP style, none of us know. If Jackson thought things were bad he had lots of chances to move on and coach else where but chose to stay with Berry. I hope they go in a different direction. But willing to give him a chance. 1 Quote
Cratter Posted Tuesday at 08:42 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:42 PM 56 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Confirmed haks out what could have been Sorce? 1 Quote
Blackheart Posted Tuesday at 08:42 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:42 PM 3 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: If Dane is hired, how is that crapping the bed? Look, we all want what's best for UND but none of us are truly "in the know" of what goes on and how to lead a program. Could the longtime assistant finally get his chance to show the world what he can do as a head coach or does an outside coach come in and totally fumble the ball and drags the program down? Those are our only two options? How about the new guy comes in and pumps some life into the program? 2 Quote
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