UND1983 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Yet, Jackson has been at UND for 19 years and that is a OK? An assistant coach at the same school for 19 years. 1 Quote
gfhockey Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Just now, UND1983 said: Yet, Jackson has been at UND for 19 years and that is a OK? An assistant coach at the same school for 19 years. Could seem weird, but what they wave kids family I’m sure he made a decent living and didn’t have to move around as most coaches did 1 Quote
Sweethockey Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Wow has this thread turned into a lot of emotions! If the HC was an outside hire, I would have expected a lot more players to enter the portal…. Well, it is only Monday! Quote
Popular Post Godsmack Posted March 31 Popular Post Posted March 31 My dad tells a funny story of how back in the 1970’s Michigan State was in town for a WCHA hockey series. Well, apparently, after the game, a bunch of Spartans players got drunk and thought it would be a great idea to kick out the windows of the JC Penny store that was then downtown. The players got hauled off to jail and my dad represented the JC Penny company. With the players in jailhouse jumpsuits at court on Monday, the JC Penny management decided that they did not wish to see the players’ careers hurt over their bone headed mistake so they offered that if the players paid for the damages, no charges would be filed. My dad said the coach, Amo Bessone, was all smiles in the court room and gladly agreed to my dad’s client’s proposal. I can only imagine the kind of punishment Coach dolled out at practice when they returned to East Lansing Lol. Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled programming. I thought this would be a fun story to share to lighten the mood around here given all the bad news we’ve been enduring today. 10 Quote
SiouxBoys Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 minute ago, Sweethockey said: Wow has this thread turned into a lot of emotions! If the HC was an outside hire, I would have expected a lot more players to enter the portal…. Well, it is only Monday! Who cares? This idea that underperforming players should be making these decisions is literally insane. Quote
Popular Post KTF Posted March 31 Popular Post Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, Kab said: Grand forks is too small to be able to raise the kind of money these kids think they are worth charles Barkley said it best when he said adults need to get in the room and fix this any business needs to ask what will my return on my investment be pay a kid $xyz this year and they are gone next year , I won’t shop for anything just because an athlete says it’s good ‘if a kid leaves they should have to pay the school they are leaving from a % of their next contract , just like coaches do UND is among the highest revenue generating programs in all of college hockey, hell they are probably the highest! I know some will say "but the Big Cheese generates billions a year and no way UND can compete!", well hockey at the Big Cheese is usually an afterthought and all the NIL money goes to football and the left-over crumbs are given to the basketball teams....hockey there is irrelevant and less than an afterthought to the big donors and media. So I call bull$%!# on the UND is getting killed because of NIL. Now I'm not from the area nor a fan of UND (but have upmost respect for the program!) and I'm telling you guys that this storm will pass and UND will be able to compete with anybody! 5 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 2 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Chaves got rope a doped!! Just gonna bump this in case anyone missed it......... 2 2 Quote
siouxweet Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Siouxdaddy said: Back on the O-Mac talk, he apparently hates Jax. “he is a p***y,” - current UND player on O-Mac transferring Maybe Omac hated Jax because he would ride him about not being hard on pucks and going to battle in corners. 1 2 Quote
cberkas Posted March 31 Author Posted March 31 8 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Just gonna bump this in case anyone missed it......... rick-rolled Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 minute ago, cberkas said: rick-rolled Never gonna let you down. Quote
Popular Post TheFlop Posted March 31 Popular Post Posted March 31 If it hadn't already happened, this marks the unfortunate turning point of when UND became just another one of the good teams in college hockey, no longer elite. Given the current environment of NIL and portal it ain't coming back either. Boisvert is exactly the type of guy that used to define UND. Skilled and plays with an edge. Him leaving is an indictment of how far this program has slid back to the pack. 8 1 Quote
Popular Post Walsh Hall Posted March 31 Popular Post Posted March 31 7 minutes ago, KTF said: UND is among the highest revenue generating programs in all of college hockey, hell they are probably the highest! I know some will say "but the Big Cheese generates billions a year and no way UND can compete!", well hockey at the Big Cheese is usually an afterthought and all the NIL money goes to football and the left-over crumbs are given to the basketball teams....hockey there is irrelevant and less than an afterthought to the big donors and media. So I call bull$%!# on the UND is getting killed because of NIL. Now I'm not from the area nor a fan of UND (but have upmost respect for the program!) and I'm telling you guys that this storm will pass and UND will be able to compete with anybody! Unfortunately the revenue, and net income, from men's hockey has absolutely nothing to do with NIL $. The NIL$ needs to come from private donors. It does not come from the institution. Apparently other schools have alumni with deeper pockets who are willing to throw their money at college athletes. 5 Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted March 31 Posted March 31 7 minutes ago, KTF said: UND is among the highest revenue generating programs in all of college hockey, hell they are probably the highest! I know some will say "but the Big Cheese generates billions a year and no way UND can compete!", well hockey at the Big Cheese is usually an afterthought and all the NIL money goes to football and the left-over crumbs are given to the basketball teams....hockey there is irrelevant and less than an afterthought to the big donors and media. So I call bull$%!# on the UND is getting killed because of NIL. Now I'm not from the area nor a fan of UND (but have upmost respect for the program!) and I'm telling you guys that this storm will pass and UND will be able to compete with anybody! The only thing in your post that is correct is the speculation of UND position in revenue generation from Hockey... EVERYTHING else is so dangerously dangerously wrong,. This is Just the beginning... literally the beginning, people don't have to stay this ignorant. 2 Quote
siouxweet Posted March 31 Posted March 31 3 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said: Unfortunately the revenue, and net income, from men's hockey has absolutely nothing to do with NIL $. The NIL$ needs to come from private donors. It does not come from the institution. Apparently other schools have alumni with deeper pockets who are willing to throw their money at college athletes. This program brags about how many NHL players it has produced and they supposedly bleed green. Time for them to start putting $$$ where there mouth is. Quote
KTF Posted March 31 Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said: Unfortunately the revenue, and net income, from men's hockey has absolutely nothing to do with NIL $. The NIL$ needs to come from private donors. It does not come from the institution. Apparently other schools have alumni with deeper pockets who are willing to throw their money at college athletes. Yes, and those donors are especially interested in football and to a lesser extent basketball. NIL in college hockey just doesn't dole out much cash. UND has very rich alumni who are very well connected to other rich alumni and I would argue that this isn't about NIL but rather locker room issues that will be sorted out soon enough. UND will be back folks, and if you bet otherwise, well a fool and his money are soon parted.... Quote
UND1983 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, siouxweet said: This program brags about how many NHL players it has produced and they supposedly bleed green. Time for them to start putting $$$ where there mouth is. Fans would be surprised at how much the former players actually give back to the program. 2 Quote
ND_Texan Posted March 31 Posted March 31 10 minutes ago, TheFlop said: If it hadn't already happened, this marks the unfortunate turning point of when UND became just another one of the good teams in college hockey, no longer elite. Given the current environment of NIL and portal it ain't coming back either. Boisvert is exactly the type of guy that used to define UND. Skilled and plays with an edge. Him leaving is an indictment of how far this program has slid back to the pack. Totally agree. But on the flip side, OMac and Perron were not the kind of players that used to define UND. Boisvert will be missed...those other two guys not so much. 2 Quote
Popular Post as15 Posted March 31 Popular Post Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, ND_Texan said: Totally agree. But on the flip side, OMac and Perron were not the kind of players that used to define UND. Boisvert will be missed...those other two guys not so much. Agreed - Perron is a very curious transfer. Why is someone getting substantial NIL money (supposedly) after generating a career high 19 points while getting top six minutes and prime powerplay time. He is the type of player that was hyped as a potential elite college player, but lacking the size and top end speed to be an NHLer. Hasn't been the case whatsoever. 7 Quote
iramurphy Posted March 31 Posted March 31 2 hours ago, yzerman19 said: $100k after taxes is $60k..that's rolling in college and not rolling after Taxes for single in ND would be closer to $20-25,000. So a bit better, keep $75,000. Quote
.357 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 9 minutes ago, TheFlop said: Given the current environment of NIL and portal it ain't coming back either. If money is such a defining factor for Boisvert & other schools' alumni have supposedly wealthier donors than UND (which I don't believe for a second), then why did Boisvert bother coming to UND in the first place? Nobody knows here with certainty why any of these players are coming or going, unless you're the actual player or someone in his circle. Quote
Siouxdaddy Posted March 31 Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, .357 said: If money is such a defining factor for Boisvert & other schools' alumni have supposedly wealthier donors than UND (which I don't believe for a second), then why did Boisvert bother coming to UND in the first place? Nobody knows here with certainty why any of these players are coming or going, unless you're the actual player or someone in his circle. Per a player on the team, Boisvert left for money. UND is not giving players 150 grand a year. Money talks. 1 1 Quote
KTF Posted March 31 Posted March 31 4 minutes ago, .357 said: If money is such a defining factor for Boisvert & other schools' alumni have supposedly wealthier donors than UND (which I don't believe for a second), then why did Boisvert bother coming to UND in the first place? Nobody knows here with certainty why any of these players are coming or going, unless you're the actual player or someone in his circle. Exactly! Again I'm not buying this narrative of UND can't compete because of NIL! Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 31 Posted March 31 And what happens when these guys post-college are offered NHL two-way ELCs paying $92,500. 1 Quote
Tignutts Posted March 31 Posted March 31 25 minutes ago, TheFlop said: If it hadn't already happened, this marks the unfortunate turning point of when UND became just another one of the good teams in college hockey, no longer elite. Given the current environment of NIL and portal it ain't coming back either. Boisvert is exactly the type of guy that used to define UND. Skilled and plays with an edge. Him leaving is an indictment of how far this program has slid back to the pack. yep, the mojo is gone but that doesnt mean we cant get it back Quote
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