Early departures 2025

[Kab]

If some of these players do enter the portal it would be nice to know the reason why and if coaching is part of it, better NIL deals, not making ncaa, going pro , 

I suppose there aren’t any exit interviews that can be looked at 

[Blackheart]

1 minute ago, Kab said:

If some of these players do enter the portal it would be nice to know the reason why and if coaching is part of it, better NIL deals, not making ncaa, going pro , 

I suppose there aren’t any exit interviews that can be looked at 

I think the only exit interview is when gfhockey says "we didn't want/need him anyway".

[AJS]

8 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

If a guy is truly leaving because he feels he not getting the development to help him to the next level (whatever that may be), then I would agree it's a black eye for the program.  I don't know enough about the money being offered to these guys but if Michigan or BC is offering 6 figures plus through the NIL or some other back channel, it will be tough to keep your better players. 

This coaching staff could sound the alarm, like many others have done. Simply stating, we need money to compete. I'm basing this off Schlossman's last interview where he discussed this. We are talking low 6 figures.  Even on the elite teams, not everyone is getting that. 

You need someone that is promoting the 1883 collective. Does anyone think that they couldn't raise 100K for Perron? Tough to do when your coaching up to this point has done absolutely nothing to promote it, but hypothetically, it should be doable. 

[jdub27]

43 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

That appears to be correct; at least for now.

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Generally, international NCAA athletes on F-1 student visas are restricted from accepting NIL money in the U.S. due to visa restrictions that limit their ability to work, but they can engage in NIL activities in their home country. 

 

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• F-1 Visa Restrictions:

  Almost all international student-athletes in the U.S. are on F-1 student visas, which limit their ability to work while in school. 

   
• NIL and "Work":

  The question of whether NIL deals constitute "work" for purposes of visa restrictions remains open, and new developments in the world of NIL and college athletics have continued to muddy the waters. 

   
• NIL Activities in Home Country:

  International athletes can accept and promote NIL deals in their home countries, as these activities are not subject to U.S. visa restrictions. 

   
• Passive Engagements:

  While NIL opportunities are prohibited, foreign athletes are allowed to profit from "passive" engagements, such as merchandise sales or EA sports video game licensing agreements. 

   
• Federal Change Needed:

  Ultimately, according to nvgt.com, federal change is needed in order for international student athletes to benefit from NIL to the same extent as their U.S. counterparts. 

   
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They have navigated this with some foreign players in other sports. So it is definitely possible to do, just takes a little more legwork.

[BusinessSiouxt]

1 hour ago, Blackheart said:

So really, recruiting never stops?  Once a guy commits to a school, you can just keep offering him a sweeter deal in hopes that he'll transfer?  They need to bring back the old transfer rule where you have to sit out a year; not a fan of the current free agency in college sports.

I completely agree with you. Look at college football, it’s crazy that you can’t actually invest yourself as a fan in a roster. Worse yet, the coaching staff cannot rely on a certain skill set to be present so planning is completely out the window. It ends up being like sandlot football, whoever shows up plays. College hockey is my favorite sport and I hated to see this come. I agree with you. They should have to sit out one year, and, only get one transfer. That year that they sit out can be a red shirt, but they have to sit.

[BusinessSiouxt]

1 hour ago, Blackheart said:

If a guy is truly leaving because he feels he not getting the development to help him to the next level (whatever that may be), then I would agree it's a black eye for the program.  I don't know enough about the money being offered to these guys but if Michigan or BC is offering 6 figures plus through the NIL or some other back channel, it will be tough to keep your better players. 

And a funny thing is, it’s a direct impact to our recruiting dollars. Think about it for a second, Michigan or BC can sit back and review tapes and then target players already in the NCAA.

[The Sicatoka]

14 minutes ago, BusinessSiouxt said:

And a funny thing is, it’s a direct impact to our recruiting dollars. Think about it for a second, Michigan or BC can sit back and review tapes and then target players already in the NCAA.

... which used to be called tampering. 

[Walsh Hall]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Everyone has to deal with the portal. 

It's a new skill set staffs must master. 

Very true, but it's unfortunately largely out of the staff's control.  If one collective has 2m annually to spend, and another 100k, well, the end result of such a lopsided race as that is too obvious to require elaboration...

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

Until Brad gets his portal tracker going, here's one. Not exactly enticing at this point. 

 

https://www.cleansheethockey.com/databases/2025-mens-transfer-portal

[dden3]

45 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said:

Very true, but it's unfortunately largely out of the staff's control.  If one collective has 2m annually to spend, and another 100k, well, the end result of such a lopsided race as that is too obvious to require elaboration...

As far as we may have fallen in the college hockey world, we may look at this year as the good old days of college hockey succumbs to a big money NIL race. I don't believe UND can or should try to raise enough money to keep up. UND and NDSU football will both be "as dead as a crematorium" to quote one of the more memorable Barry Melrose quips I ever heard. 

[fightingsioux4life]

7 minutes ago, dden3 said:

As far as we may have fallen in the college hockey world, we may look at this year as the good old days of college hockey succumbs to a big money NIL race. I don't believe UND can or should try to raise enough money to keep up. UND and NDSU football will both be "as dead as a crematorium" to quote one of the more memorable Barry Melrose quips I ever heard. 

So you are on the mid-major from now on bandwagon?

UND must NEVER, EVER settle for being a mid-major in hockey.

If we do that, we'll end up like an HBCU. Bad teams across the board forever.

[Walsh Hall]

8 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

So you are on the mid-major from now on bandwagon?

UND must NEVER, EVER settle for being a mid-major in hockey.

If we do that, we'll end up like an HBCU. Bad teams across the board forever.

It's not about settling, it's being realistic.  All things being equal, UND hockey would always be a blue blood.  There is now this new component.  Keeping any truly elite basketball or football player at UND, when they will be offered substantially more $ elsewhere, is going to be a rarity.  

For a kid who is anticipating playing another 1-2 years in college, and there being several schools (including UND) who can provide similar development, it doesn't seem unreasonable to take the payday.   I'm no fan of the portal, and what NIL is doing to athletics, but it is what it is.  There will absolutely be many kids who choose a school based on $.   If UND can't match the $ it's going to be an issue, and I can't see UND having the funds that BU, BC, UM, UMn... etc will have for the top end talent year after years after year.

[fightingsioux4life]

3 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said:

It's not about settling, it's being realistic.  All things being equal, UND hockey would always be a blue blood.  There is now this new component.  Keeping any truly elite basketball or football player at UND, when they will be offered substantially more $ elsewhere, is going to be a rarity. 

I wasn't talking about football or basketball.

Being a mid-major in basketball is fine.

Being FCS in football is fine.

Being a mid-major in hockey is NOT FINE.

Whatever needs to be done to build the 1883 collective needs to be done. We have always punched above our weight class in this sport and there is no reason we can't keep doing it.

Cripes, I remember when our fan base expected success. Now we are being told to be "realistic". That's just another step to permanent mediocrity.

[.357]

10 hours ago, brianvf said:

People have been mentioning rumors about guys like Boisvert, Perron, Emery, etc once we knew the season was kind of tanking.
I have no inside info on any of this, so not sure if people are just making guesses or have knowledge that specific schools have been reaching out.
In this portal and NIL age, nothing would surprise me anymore.  Seems that the sense of loyalty to your school goes out the window once some $ gets tossed around.

That said, those three players (and other big pieces) are integral to upcoming season(s) for this program.
If Berry wasn't already on the hot-seat due to how this season (and really the past few seasons) have gone, then I think that fire would really need to be lit if impact players like that start entering the portal from under his nose.  It's one thing for players to leave to sign pro deals, but another to have highly drafted players leave due to money / playing time / coaching structure / etc.

It's going to be an interesting off-season.  I hope next fall that we see most of these guys still playing for UND, but who knows.

If any of these highly-drafted players leave for another school, would wager that it would be due to not seeing much promise in the coach's system for his development. Bottom line is one will probably never know a player's true reason for transferring, unless one happens to be in his inner circle.  

And if college hockey is so cutthroat & the best players are constantly being wooed by other programs' money, the 3 players you mentioned would have already been offered lucrative deals by others & there's a good chance some of them may have never set foot on campus as a result. But they still came. Boisvert in a January interview said he never even seriously considered about going to any place other than UND. And Perron stated he knew UND was where he wanted to go as soon as he visited. Doesn't sound like money was a defining reason for them, unless they're being given large sums of money that the fans aren't aware of, which I doubt. 

If any of the 3 bolt, perhaps Emery because he seems to be the most impulsive. People have speculated Boisvert out east due to family, but he left home (Quebec) at 14 to play in the US to elevate his game, so he doesn't strike me as a homebody type who would prefer to play closer to family. But like you said, who knows.

Boisvert is the most crucial of the 3, & of the team, because the offense next year will be built around him if he stays. He is the king on the chessboard that BB needs to protect at all costs. Whatever that takes.

[.357]

1 hour ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Until Brad gets his portal tracker going, here's one. Not exactly enticing at this point. 

 

https://www.cleansheethockey.com/databases/2025-mens-transfer-portal

6 of the 10 are seniors, I thought this year was the last year for 5-year players..unless these 6 are all graduate students. 

[gfhockey]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

So you are on the mid-major from now on bandwagon?

UND must NEVER, EVER settle for being a mid-major in hockey.

If we do that, we'll end up like an HBCU. Bad teams across the board forever.

 But we settle for not making the ncaas

so why not settle for that

[brianvf]

12 minutes ago, .357 said:

Boisvert is the most crucial of the 3, & of the team, because the offense next year will be built around him if he stays. He is the king on the chessboard that BB needs to protect at all costs. Whatever that takes.

Agreed.

9 minutes ago, .357 said:

6 of the 10 are seniors, I thought this year was the last year for 5-year players..unless these 6 are all graduate students. 

I thought so too.
Wonder if these guys got medical redshirts or something to give them an extra year of eligibility?

[fightingsioux4life]

4 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

 But we settle for not making the ncaas

so why not settle for that

Both are unacceptable.

[yzerman19]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

So you are on the mid-major from now on bandwagon?

UND must NEVER, EVER settle for being a mid-major in hockey.

If we do that, we'll end up like an HBCU. Bad teams across the board forever.

What/who is HBCU?

[Oxbow6]

We want chippaz

[.357]

3 hours ago, AJS said:

You need someone that is promoting the 1883 collective. Does anyone think that they couldn't raise 100K for Perron? Tough to do when your coaching up to this point has done absolutely nothing to promote it, but hypothetically, it should be doable. 

Do you see any other D1 hockey coaches actively campaigning for NIL money? Maybe the reason BB isn't is because he already has a sizable war chest from private donors that the public isn't aware of. Who knows, NIL isn't transparent & it's difficult for the public to know with certainty what's happening in the back rooms.

Not going to lose sleep over NIL ... it can be a nice addition for the program; but a savvy coach like Ferschweiler or Carle who can recruit & develop the right players is infinitely more important than flashing the latest Canadian phenom with big wads of cash. And if a player's first priority is an exorbitant amount of money, one should question if that player will be fully invested in the team & will do anything to help it succeed. 

[DL Sioux]

30 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

What/who is HBCU?

Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Such as Jackson State.

[yzerman19]

1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

We want chippaz

We won't get Chippaz without significant NIL money.  It is the new reality.  Our NIL is going to have to be better than many, many programs too.

[Blackheart]

1 hour ago, .357 said:

Not going to lose sleep over NIL ... it can be a nice addition for the program; but a savvy coach like Ferschweiler or Carle who can recruit & develop the right players is infinitely more important than flashing the latest Canadian phenom with big wads of cash. 

I think we have a bingo!

[yzerman19]

9 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

I think we have a bingo!

Not anymore...chippaz going to want it all.  If we are okay competing without Chippaz, we can focus on the coaching, development, and the facilities.  Most Chippaz going to want everything...