gfhockey Posted March 23 Posted March 23 1 minute ago, brianvf said: I did a quick search, found the last Fire Hak thread from 2015 (like a month before it was announced he took the Flyers coaching job). A lot of the same posters, for sure. And yes, you were a participant in that thread. No worries though, as I said...it is just how things are around here. How many ncaa wins berry got since his tourney win? 1? is that the new standards 1 win in 7 years? Ok fine by me Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted March 23 Posted March 23 20 minutes ago, brianvf said: Sure. But that still doesn't explain calling UNO a bottom feeder...they're a tourney team. Got it. Someone will have to update the Wikipedia page then. 20 minutes ago, brianvf said: Sure. But that still doesn't explain calling UNO a bottom feeder...they're a tourney team. Got it. Someone will have to update the Wikipedia page then. Sorry yeah Omaha is a bottom feeder. Of a program, of the conference, this year and historically. If they hadn't beat a " 1 seed " 3 times in the last month, would they even be close to the tourney? No. Then you'll say " they beat a 1 seed three times" They didn't, they beat a lazy mathematical pairwise anomaly 1 seed. They shouldn't even be here. A top team beats them down to the gutter where they AND this UND team right now seem to belong. They can gladly prove me wrong but me thinks the absolute piss missle of a drubbing they both take next weekend will absolutely prove me right. I hope not, I really do but... as the saying goes hope in one hand, tourney game at the X in the other....... Quote
brianvf Posted March 23 Posted March 23 3 minutes ago, Oldguy said: Exactly. Very little confidence in this team as they limp into the NCAA's, with a starting GT who hasn't played in weeks. Yeah I wonder if the plan was to start Ludvig tomorrow if the team won today? Either way, not much going right as we head to the tourney now. Quote
jk Posted March 23 Posted March 23 The "soft" thing is interesting to consider. UND is built quite a bit differently than it used to be. They take fewer penalties than almost everyone, and have the skill to win by winning the special teams battle. But the skill guys are pretty soft, Blake's wipeout of Rizzo notwithstanding. Do we need more grinders? Or skill guys with more of an edge? I don't know. Maybe they go on a run and this discussion is unnecessary. Quote
gfhockey Posted March 23 Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, jk said: The "soft" thing is interesting to consider. UND is built quite a bit differently than it used to be. They take fewer penalties than almost everyone, and have the skill to win by winning the special teams battle. But the skill guys are pretty soft, Blake's wipeout of Rizzo notwithstanding. Do we need more grinders? Or skill guys with more of an edge? I don't know. Maybe they go on a run and this discussion is unnecessary. Pshh grinders we have what two goal scorers and that’s it Quote
brianvf Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Just now, Frozen4sioux said: Sorry yeah Omaha is a bottom feeder. Of a program, of the conference, this year and historically. If they hadn't beat a " 1 seed " 3 times in the last month, would they even be close to the tourney? No. Then you'll say " they beat a 1 seed three times" They didn't, they beat a lazy mathematical pairwise anomaly 1 seed. They shouldn't even be here. If they hadn't beaten us last month, they wouldn't have the same PWR level, but they'd still be in a position to win tomorrow to make the tourney regardless. Hoping that they can prove you wrong next weekend. Quote
brianvf Posted March 23 Posted March 23 6 minutes ago, gfhockey said: How many ncaa wins berry got since his tourney win? 1? is that the new standards 1 win in 7 years? Ok fine by me That's not fine with me...and pretty much everyone else on this board. But I know you won't let that stop you from mentioning it in every single post. 1 Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted March 23 Posted March 23 14 minutes ago, jk said: The "soft" thing is interesting to consider. UND is built quite a bit differently than it used to be. They take fewer penalties than almost everyone, and have the skill to win by winning the special teams battle. But the skill guys are pretty soft, Blake's wipeout of Rizzo notwithstanding. Do we need more grinders? Or skill guys with more of an edge? I don't know. Maybe they go on a run and this discussion is unnecessary. This is going to hurt, but it may well be true. UND is... who the gophers used to be. Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted March 23 Posted March 23 8 minutes ago, brianvf said: Hoping that they can prove you wrong next weekend. Agreed. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 BB is dealing with the Ludvig situation as well as he did the NODAK fiasco 1 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 36 minutes ago, mikejm said: Nasty drop in Pairwise: down to #5 The bend over and grab your ankles scenario would be UND vs UNO in Sioux Falls. 1 Quote
brianvf Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Just now, Oxbow6 said: The bend over and grab your ankles scenario would be UND vs UNO in Sioux Falls. That'd be a doozy. UND just gave the NCAA an open invite to send them East, so I'm guessing that's what'll happen. Quote
Big A HG Posted March 23 Posted March 23 20 minutes ago, brianvf said: I did a quick search, found the last Fire Hak thread from 2015 (like a month before it was announced he took the Flyers coaching job). A lot of the same posters, for sure. And yes, you were a participant in that thread. No worries though, as I said...it is just how things are around here. I like how you referenced I "participated". I did participate twice in that thread before it was locked. And in neither post did I ever reference Firing Hak. In one I defended the fact that it's still a long season and the other was some thoughtful data about our string of championships against the law of averages. Over the umpteen years I've been on here I can't say with 100% certainty that I didn't mention the good ol' #FireHak once in a fit of Frozen Four rage, but I don't recall ever doing it and have never believed firing Hak was ever the right choice like I truly believe that replacing Berry is. Quote
Big A HG Posted March 23 Posted March 23 35 minutes ago, Kab said: What were coaches words of wisdom after the game None were on the radio. I don't know if he had to do some other media or opted to not saying anything at all. Quote
Wilbur Posted March 23 Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: The bend over and grab your ankles scenario would be UND vs UNO in Sioux Falls. 5 NCHC teams would give them an excuse to do that. Quote
Big A HG Posted March 23 Posted March 23 33 minutes ago, franchise said: Complainer of everything What do I actually complain about? The fact that I don't like Berry and the low bar he's set for the program and ?? Quote
Oxbow6 Posted March 23 Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: The bend over and grab your ankles scenario would be UND vs UNO in Sioux Falls. I'm ok with going anywhere as the #2 and Michigan St as the #1. The bigger issue is who's the #3??? 1 Quote
Blackheart Posted March 23 Posted March 23 Boy, I sure didn't want to miss out on this thread! Just got home from the game with my son and we had a good time. Cosetta's for lunch, $20 parking, a Snuffy's malt at the X...who could ask for more. Oh, and we ran into the MafiaMan and MafiaBoys in the concourse. What are the odds? Sioux looked great out of the gate, but could not match intensity after that first goal. I don't think Omaha is better than UND, but they sure have us figured out. Aggressive forecheck by UNO forcing Sioux into some questionable decisions and/or giveaways in our zone did not help. Omaha just seemed like they wanted it more; they were quicker on pucks and seemed to outhustle/outwork UND for stretches. Hobey was ok in net; I'm thinking he wants that one backhander back though. There's no reason why UND shouldn't have been balls to the wall from the puck drop; they are playing for a 1 seed in the NCAA's. Sioux looked good at points but this is not the same team that held DU to 4 goals on the weekend. Not sure what it's going to take but B-rad and the coaches need to get the boys back on track and quickly. Otherwise, they'll be watching the Frozen Four from home instead of playing in it. Go Sioux! Edit: I'm going to go back and read this thread but I'm guessing there's a few more 'Ledgies' than usual after today's game. 1 1 Quote
shep Posted March 23 Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Big A HG said: I like how you referenced I "participated". I did participate twice in that thread before it was locked. And in neither post did I ever reference Firing Hak. In one I defended the fact that it's still a long season and the other was some thoughtful data about our string of championships against the law of averages. Over the umpteen years I've been on here I can't say with 100% certainty that I didn't mention the good ol' #FireHak once in a fit of Frozen Four rage, but I don't recall ever doing it and have never believed firing Hak was ever the right choice like I truly believe that replacing Berry is. I was on the post hoping they'd fire Hak. I have no regrets. The team COULD NOT win it all with Hak. Not sure why but they just couldn't get over the hump. I don't give a shat about final fours. Give me the title. Today sucked. Team was not ready to play hockey. Sucked 1 Quote
siouxweet Posted March 23 Posted March 23 1 hour ago, SIOUXELEVENS said: So is it worse to miss the NCAA’s or get spanked first game ? No difference. Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted March 23 Posted March 23 The culture of this program needs to change from.. You deserve to be here... to Prove why you should be here. 2 Quote
farce poobah Posted March 23 Posted March 23 28 minutes ago, brianvf said: If they hadn't beaten us last month, they wouldn't have the same PWR level, but they'd still be in a position to win tomorrow to make the tourney regardless. Hoping that they can prove you wrong next weekend. Omaha with one loss in regulation in their last 16 NCHC games - they are for real. Whatever the opposite of bottom feeder is ... The only thing I like about Gabinet is he has his guys playing hockey in the style of Dean Blais. They do it well, and nobody has solved them since January (Denver clobbered them twice). On top of all that we gave them two soft goals (their first followed a blind backhand pass behind our own net that they intercepted and scored, and the trickler that Hobie really really wants back). Most troubling for me is that we don't show signs of making the changes needed to solve UNO style. Can't tell if that's on the players or on the coaches, but I'm in the book of hoping we get sent East. Eastern hockey is much more possession based, cautious on attacking, and we've won a lot of those games this year. 3 Quote
I Ranger Posted March 23 Posted March 23 6 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: I'm ok with going anywhere as the #2 and Michigan St as the #1. The bigger issue is who's the #3 It's going to be Michigan or Quinnipiac as it lines up now. Not a great draw to say the least! Quote
brianvf Posted March 23 Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, Big A HG said: I like how you referenced I "participated". That was literally your word from the previous quote. Participate. Regarding replacing Berry, I would hope the AD would start to look elsewhere if this lack of postseason success streak continues. That said, I highly doubt that would happen anytime soon. Especially after he just led the team to the Penrose. I'm not sure how long of a playoff streak it would take before a change would happen. I am sure that for many posters on here, a change will be demanded long before it actually happens. Quote
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