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6 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Risk and Israels from UAF to Omaha. 

Two nice pickups for them.
They lost a lot, so they need some good players to fill some lineup holes.

4 hours ago, cberkas said:

Lane Hutson signs with the Canadians 

That was quick.

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2 minutes ago, brianvf said:

Two nice pickups for them.
They lost a lot, so they need some good players to fill some lineup holes.

That was quick.

With how bad the Canadians and Laval are I expect Fowler to get signed too.

Posted
4 hours ago, cberkas said:

Lane Hutson signs with the Canadians 

My sources told me it was between Montreal and the portal to UND. Couldn’t have been an easy choice.

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On 4/11/2024 at 8:38 AM, jk said:

It seems like people have forgotten the recruiting landscape, which really hasn't changed much in many significant ways over decades.  For the most part, MN has first choice on Minnesota kids.  BC and BU fight over the best in the northeast.  Michigan and MSU get their state and the national program.  UND has its own sparsely populated area and is a player in western Canada, along with Denver, which also now has the west coast.

There will always be exceptions, but generally it's going to be hard to steal kids from someone else's area.  UND can pitch facilities, tradition, development, and competitiveness as well as anyone, no doubt.  But those others can just as well.  Depending on where and how they grew up, Grand Forks may not feel like a good fit for many kids.  But it will for someone from Crookston or Alberta.  Which is why UND's hit rate is higher on those players.  

Thankfully UND has hit on some non-traditional recruits like Pinto and Boisvert, but I expect that to always be a big ask.  So when people see a shiny kid go elsewhere and wonder why UND didn't get him, it's probably because he can get most everything UND offers in a place he likes better than UND. 

 

Really good well reasoned post.  As amazing as our facilities, tradition and staff is Grand Forks is not a bustling metropolitan area that has kids clambering to come here.  There's a reason I moved out of state as soon as I could after high school and again shortly after graduating college.  I came back because as I grew up I realized the positives but when you're a teenager or in your early 20s and focused on having the best possible college experience it's tough, for example, to compete with games at The Big House in Ann Arbor or the mountains and incredible outdoor hiking just outside Denver.  Or even the weather and co-eds at ASU. We'll get a certain type of kid(Canadian kids aren't fazed by winters) and our fair share of talent but we won't get all of them.

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25 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said:

Really good well reasoned post.  As amazing as our facilities, tradition and staff is Grand Forks is not a bustling metropolitan area that has kids clambering to come here.  There's a reason I moved out of state as soon as I could after high school and again shortly after graduating college.  I came back because as I grew up I realized the positives but when you're a teenager or in your early 20s and focused on having the best possible college experience it's tough, for example, to compete with games at The Big House in Ann Arbor or the mountains and incredible outdoor hiking just outside Denver.  Or even the weather and co-eds at ASU. We'll get a certain type of kid(Canadian kids aren't faced by winters) and our fair share of talent but we won't get all of them.

   Agree, and we never did get all of the players.  I would say our biggest calling card has been we have always been hard to play against and we brought it every night.  I would argue that teams like Western, St. Cloud, and Omaha have more consistent work ethics than we have with less talent.

   In this age when you might get fewer of the super skilled guys, you better have experienced junior guys coming in, and you better have less games where the coach has to repeat “we didn’t come out ready to play”.  
 

   Not hearing media or coaches talking about how hard North Dakota is to play against, in fact you don’t hear much about the program as a team to be feared at tournament time.  It doesn’t help not having any exposure during the Frozen Four, much less the National tournament.  That kills recruiting.

 

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8 minutes ago, tnt said:

   Agree, and we never did get all of the players.  I would say our biggest calling card has been we have always been hard to play against and we brought it every night.  I would argue that teams like Western, St. Cloud, and Omaha have more consistent work ethics than we have with less talent.

   In this age when you might get fewer of the super skilled guys, you better have experienced junior guys coming in, and you better have less games where the coach has to repeat “we didn’t come out ready to play”.  
 

   Not hearing media or coaches talking about how hard North Dakota is to play against, in fact you don’t hear much about the program as a team to be feared at tournament time.  

 

The edgy style is definitely gone, but it's tricky and I don't have the answer.  The college game is called very tight now, and UND was one of the least penalized teams in the country.  Considering how much special teams play determines who wins, having more PPs than the other guy is a great formula for success.  And it worked, overall, this year.  But I miss being hard to play against.

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6 minutes ago, jk said:

The edgy style is definitely gone, but it's tricky and I don't have the answer.  The college game is called very tight now, and UND was one of the least penalized teams in the country.  Considering how much special teams play determines who wins, having more PPs than the other guy is a great formula for success.  And it worked, overall, this year.  But I miss being hard to play against.

I just remember continually getting east coast refs and just getting penalty after penalty costing us games in the NCAAs.  Sure, the rough, hard-nosed playing over the edge style worked great in the WCHA but it seemed like it never translated to a title, hence our gap from 2000 to 2016.

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11 hours ago, tnt said:

   Agree, and we never did get all of the players.  I would say our biggest calling card has been we have always been hard to play against and we brought it every night.  I would argue that teams like Western, St. Cloud, and Omaha have more consistent work ethics than we have with less talent.

   In this age when you might get fewer of the super skilled guys, you better have experienced junior guys coming in, and you better have less games where the coach has to repeat “we didn’t come out ready to play”.  
 

   Not hearing media or coaches talking about how hard North Dakota is to play against, in fact you don’t hear much about the program as a team to be feared at tournament time.  It doesn’t help not having any exposure during the Frozen Four, much less the National tournament.  That kills recruiting.

 

Recruiting imo has not been the issue. 

Posted
46 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Gauthier, Brindley, Duke, all sign for $925k+. 
https://www.capfriendly.com/ 

Still say Blake took the short end. 

I believe that the numbers on Blake's contract were incorrect.

Looks Like he was paid as a first rounder and burned a year on his ELC.

Jackson Blake Contract, Cap Hit, Salary and Stats - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

SEASON CLAUSE CAP HITTooltip AAV Tooltip P. BONUSESTooltip S. BONUSESTooltip BASE SALARYTooltip TOTAL SALARYTooltip MINORS SALTooltip
TOTAL   $2,717,499 $2,775,000 $57,500 $277,500 $2,440,000 $2,717,500 $240,000
2023-24   $905,833 $925,000 $57,500 $92,500 $775,000 $867,500 $80,000
2024-25   $905,833 $925,000 $0 $92,500 $832,500 $925,000 $80,000
2025-26   $905,833 $925,000 $0 $92,500 $832,500 $925,000 $80,000
Qualifying OfferTooltip: $874,125 
 

 

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, scpa0305 said:

Jeremy Wilmer in the portal…that’s interesting. Good production, I guess he was scratched for the FF game.

That'd be a nice pickup for someone, he dishes it well.

Posted
1 hour ago, petey23 said:

I believe that the numbers on Blake's contract were incorrect.

Looks Like he was paid as a first rounder and burned a year on his ELC.

Jackson Blake Contract, Cap Hit, Salary and Stats - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

SEASON CLAUSE CAP HITTooltip AAV Tooltip P. BONUSESTooltip S. BONUSESTooltip BASE SALARYTooltip TOTAL SALARYTooltip MINORS SALTooltip
TOTAL   $2,717,499 $2,775,000 $57,500 $277,500 $2,440,000 $2,717,500 $240,000
2023-24   $905,833 $925,000 $57,500 $92,500 $775,000 $867,500 $80,000
2024-25   $905,833 $925,000 $0 $92,500 $832,500 $925,000 $80,000
2025-26   $905,833 $925,000 $0 $92,500 $832,500 $925,000 $80,000
Qualifying OfferTooltip: $874,125 
 

 

 

 

The max he could receive for his draft year is $925,000 so I believe you are correct.

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