Going48 Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Siouxperman8 said: An easy improvement would be to go back to requiring sitting out a year when transferring. That would cut down on a lot of the transfers for NIL money. I haven’t kept up enough to know if that was changed to meet a law or if it was ncaa whim. or would it. The way these big schools are handing out money, would they then pay the student athlete while he/she is waiting to be eligible and then for the additional years they are eligible ?? Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 22 hours ago, Siouxperman8 said: Here is a pic of the top 7 NIL earners in NCAA from ON3.com. You can sort the numbers a bunch of ways on that web site. The numbers are staggering. Here is link sorted for football. https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player/college/football/ haha.....angel reese......what she selling other than her soul. Quote
SlowHand Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Current List: North Dakota OL Easton Kilty QB Tommy Schuster OL Brayden Bryant WR Jack Wright DB Edmund Ocansey DE Ben McNaboe LB Emmet Wolf Quote
shep Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 52 minutes ago, SlowHand said: Current List: North Dakota OL Easton Kilty QB Tommy Schuster OL Brayden Bryant WR Jack Wright DB Edmund Ocansey DE Ben McNaboe LB Emmet Wolf Bryant find a home yet? He left some time ago. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 https://inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeely-ndsu-collective-moves-with-urgency-after-fbs-school-offers-250k-to-bison-player?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar Fargo and NDSU are being proactive towards football. UND made no coaching changes, but they will also sit tight on current Alston awards and do nothing else to prevent football program’s deterioration. Not all on UND, of course; need supporters for UND football to step up and initiate a collective for football program. But hard to do that with the current lack of competent leadership in place for football program. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 10 hours ago, SlowHand said: Current List: North Dakota OL Easton Kilty QB Tommy Schuster OL Brayden Bryant WR Jack Wright DB Edmund Ocansey DE Ben McNaboe LB Emmet Wolf To my eye, three guys going elsewhere with their Covid year, two guys who seldom saw the field, a guy who's done with his degree (as a junior!), and Ocansey. It ain't tOSU losing an 11-1 as a starter QB, but thank you for your interest in North Dakota Athletics. 1 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 FCS (and the G5) are now the minor or developmental league for the power schools. That's not defeatist; it's reality. If the Texas hook-'em-horns want your NG they're getting your NG. 2 Quote
homer Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: https://inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeely-ndsu-collective-moves-with-urgency-after-fbs-school-offers-250k-to-bison-player?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar Fargo and NDSU are being proactive towards football. UND made no coaching changes, but they will also sit tight on current Alston awards and do nothing else to prevent football program’s deterioration. Not all on UND, of course; need supporters for UND football to step up and initiate a collective for football program. But hard to do that with the current lack of competent leadership in place for football program. I’m not sure any finger pointing you can do here are towards the administration. As hard as you want to spin it…..this is on the fans like me and you. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: FCS (and the G5) are now the minor or developmental league for the power schools. That's not defeatist; it's reality. If the Texas hook-'em-horns want your NG they're getting your NG. Given the current rulings, you’re correct. Hard pill to swallow for smaller programs. Need to be imaginative and proactive in order to combat this. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 minute ago, homer said: I’m not sure any finger pointing you can do here are towards the administration. As hard as you want to spin it…..this is on the fans like me and you. As I said (typed). Quote
homer Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: As I said (typed). Almost….still couldn’t do it without trying to tie it to UND and it’s football staff. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 NIL collectives must be separate from the school. Period. An NIL is a private group hiring a spokesperson or "local face" to pimp their product. Nothing more. 1 Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 54 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: https://inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeely-ndsu-collective-moves-with-urgency-after-fbs-school-offers-250k-to-bison-player?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar Fargo and NDSU are being proactive towards football. UND made no coaching changes, but they will also sit tight on current Alston awards and do nothing else to prevent football program’s deterioration. Not all on UND, of course; need supporters for UND football to step up and initiate a collective for football program. But hard to do that with the current lack of competent leadership in place for football program. NDSU is struggling to raise money, why else would they schedule an emergency meeting to get more members. Lots of people want to be a fan but not many willing to throw down extra $$$$ 2 1 Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 33 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: As I said (typed). No you said it’s not all on UND. NO, it’s entirely not on UND! Up to the fans and boosters to start a collective. 1 Quote
gfhockey Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 I think Chaves should just sit back and watch and watch an evolve and take the philosophical approach and think about it more 1 Quote
Mama Sue Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, gfhockey said: I think Chaves should just sit back and watch and watch an evolve and take the philosophical approach and think about it more And pretty soon we will be D3….. Quote
siouxweet Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Mama Sue said: And pretty soon we will be D3….. No but I do think FCS will eventually be like D2 ended up Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Chaves got Alston Awards (701 Fund) up and going. That all a school administrator can do. They can't be associated with a NIL collective. 2 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mama Sue said: And pretty soon we will be D3….. It'll be haves (power 50 or so) and the rest. Quote
CMSioux Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: To my eye, three guys going elsewhere with their Covid year, two guys who seldom saw the field, a guy who's done with his degree (as a junior!), and Ocansey. It ain't tOSU losing an 11-1 as a starter QB, but thank you for your interest in North Dakota Athletics. Agreed, most moving on with life, as student-athletes should. Not much damage control yet but every time I open this thread I'm holding my breath. 1 Quote
CMSioux Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: NDSU is struggling to raise money, why else would they schedule an emergency meeting to get more members. Lots of people want to be a fan but not many willing to throw down extra $$$$ Like the old days when the priest would gather the men in the church basement and say 'No one leaves until we raise enough money to pay off the morgage". This really happened back in the day. Quote
HoopsFan03 Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: FCS (and the G5) are now the minor or developmental league for the power schools. That's not defeatist; it's reality. If the Texas hook-'em-horns want your NG they're getting your NG. Is this a bad thing? I don't see an issue with this if I'm being honest. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: Is this a bad thing? I assign it no status, neither bad nor good, just reality of our making. 1 Quote
forksandspoons Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 It’s on Chaves to build support of boosters who then go and start an NIL collective 2 Quote
AJS Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 The Alston award (701 award) works essentially the same as a NIL collective. To say that UND is sitting around doing nothing is patently false. How much do some schools NIL funds have? Seems like we're really talking semantics here. What UND cannot do is pay an individual athlete big $. I would argue trying to do that is not sustainable anyways. 3 Quote
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