Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: So @InHeavenThereIsNoBeer is full of crap? He's spreading Fake News. 1 Quote
Popular Post tnt Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Big Green said: He's spreading Fake News. If you don't know what you're talking about, best not act like you do. https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2022/10/24_Understanding-the-Pairwise.php 2 6 Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, tnt said: If you don't know what you're talking about, best not act like you do. https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2022/10/24_Understanding-the-Pairwise.php I'll second that, try to keep up Big Green 1 Quote
Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: I'll second that I guess I was the one spreading Fake news. I totally missed that this was changed last year. Doesn't change the fact it was not a split. 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Green said: I guess I was the one spreading Fake news. I totally missed that this was changed last year. Doesn't change the fact it was not a split. Then what should we call it? Any ideas? I really wish they would get rid of these stupid formulas and go back to something that makes sense. Have an NCAA-wide 4x4 OT for 10 minutes. If it's still tied, then it goes down as a tie. If someone scores in OT, it is a win (not 55% or 67% or anything else). We have made this way too complicated. 1 Quote
Sodbuster Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, fightingsioux4life said: Then what should we call it? Any ideas? I really wish they would get rid of these stupid formulas and go back to something that makes sense. Have an NCAA-wide 4x4 OT for 10 minutes. If it's still tied, then it goes down as a tie. If someone scores in OT, it is a win (not 55% or 67% or anything else). We have made this way too complicated. Totally agree! 1 Quote
Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, fightingsioux4life said: Then what should we call it? Any ideas? I really wish they would get rid of these stupid formulas and go back to something that makes sense. Have an NCAA-wide 4x4 OT for 10 minutes. If it's still tied, then it goes down as a tie. If someone scores in OT, it is a win (not 55% or 67% or anything else). We have made this way too complicated. Loss and OT Win. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, Big Green said: Loss and OT Win. Simple and accurate. Fair enough. Quote
brianvf Posted November 9, 2023 Author Posted November 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Big Green said: Doesn't change the fact it was not a split. Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Big Green said: I guess I was the one spreading Fake news. I totally missed that this was changed last year. Doesn't change the fact it was not a split. Indeed you were, and I never never said it was so you seem to be arguing yourself presently. I'm not as concerned about the nuance on if it's a split or 45% of a split as I am with how the team is playing, which I think is pretty damn good(especially for early November). If you want everyone to feel 5% more disappointed because it wasn't a full split, you're going to be fully disappointed. There are still fans going nuts for non-conference shootout wins. In fact, if you want to turn that mirror back at yourself all splits aren't even created equal so why are they called a split?! A regulation win and loss @ BU is worth much more than a regulation win and loss at home vs Miami. 2 1 Quote
skateshattrick Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, Big Green said: I guess I was the one spreading Fake news. I totally missed that this was changed last year. Doesn't change the fact it was not a split. How does that crow taste, despite the fact that you are still in denial? It is a split because it goes as a win on UND's record and a loss on BU's record. Additionally, we get at least 67% credit for the "win", whether you choose to call it that or not. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 What a ridiculous argument this is. Do any of us really feel that us winning in OT shouldn't be a win? We legit got a win on our record for it. Cripes. 4 Quote
tnt Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Why do I get the feeling that Big Green would be the first to be complaining about getting swept by BU if the outcome of the overtime would have been reversed. 1 Quote
Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, tnt said: Why do I get the feeling that Big Green would be the first to be complaining about getting swept by BU if the outcome of the overtime would have been reversed. Doesn't even make sense. I would be upset if it was called a sweep when it was a Loss and OT Loss. Not the same as a sweep. I sweep implies 1 team got at whole pie and the other not nothing. A split implies both teams got 1/2. Quote
Kevin G Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said: We have made this way too complicated. 5-1-0-0-1-0 This is the current record for a random college hockey team as presented on USCHO.com. This is just ridiculous. You shouldn't need more than two dashes. Wins, losses, ties. Please. 1 Quote
Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 I guess I got my answer. I'm the only 1 that doesn't consider a loss and 3x3 win a split. Just my opinion. I will drop it as I need to go on with my day. Quote
tnt Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 I think more people would be upset if we had crapped the bed in our other non conference games and absolutely had to have the regulation win to make up for it, but this will look good on our resume down the road because of the anticipation that BU will only get better with their young studs. 1 Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Kevin G said: 5-1-0-0-1-0 This is the current record for a random college hockey team as presented on USCHO.com. This is just ridiculous. You shouldn't need more than two dashes. Wins, losses, ties. Please. 1 1 Quote
Popular Post burd Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 9, 2023 As well as this team has played against teams like BU, it's pretty amazing that no player on D had played a minute of hockey in a UND jersey or with any other player on the team. I think I've got that right. It's even more surprising that they seem so steady under forecheck pressure, something that requires a lot of communication and coordination. They screw up at times, but a lot less frequently than could be expected under their circumstances. 6 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, Kevin G said: 5-1-0-0-1-0 This is the current record for a random college hockey team as presented on USCHO.com. This is just ridiculous. You shouldn't need more than two dashes. Wins, losses, ties. Please. Music Standings ... The Fighting Jennys: 8-6-7-5-3-0-9. Wilson Pickett: 6-3-4-5-7-8-9 Quote
siouxfaninseattle Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 So I have an idea for OT. How about 5x5 for 20 minutes, sudden death. Winner gets all the points. No? Yeah, pretty radical idea. 4 Quote
brianvf Posted November 10, 2023 Author Posted November 10, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 7:24 PM, WiSioux said: Please let me know if you find a clip of the OT winner with Tim's broadcast. The new Through These Doors has it with TH's call...here it is with the timestamp already cued to the OT winner. TH is a little more excited than the homer BU announcers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YALppp8x6YY&t=347s 1 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 8 hours ago, siouxfaninseattle said: So I have an idea for OT. How about 5x5 for 20 minutes, sudden death. Winner gets all the points. No? Yeah, pretty radical idea. Or even just 10 minutes. How can a game be determined by a something (3x3) that NEVER happens in the first 60. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 I've never liked playing a different, second game (3x3) to decide a game (5x5); and, l like even less a skills competition to decide the first and second games. Do I like all the number-fiddling* that comes with 3x3 then SOs when it comes to RPI and PWR calcs? No. What I will say is I'd rather win in regulation, but if that doesn't happen I rather win in OT than lose in OT or regulation. * 2/3 of a win? Is that like making it 2/3 of the way with the homecoming queen**? ** someone explain to our NDSU friends what that is Quote
burd Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: I've never liked playing a different, second game (3x3) to decide a game (5x5); and, l like even less a skills competition to decide the first and second games. Do I like all the number-fiddling* that comes with 3x3 then SOs when it comes to RPI and PWR calcs? No. What I will say is I'd rather win in regulation, but if that doesn't happen I rather win in OT than lose in OT or regulation. * 2/3 of a win? Is that like making it 2/3 of the way with the homecoming queen**? ** someone explain to our NDSU friends what that is Why is it that when someone is out there stirring up trouble, it's usually you? Quote
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