Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Anyone else annoyed by the fact we are calling this weekend a split. 3x3 ot wins are worth little more that a tie. They are only worth 55% of a win. Basically a loss and a tie on the weekend. Not real impressive. Blew a 2 goal lead and a late 3rd period lead. This team has the right to get better, but this was not a good weekend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Big Green said: Anyone else annoyed by the fact we are calling this weekend a split. 3x3 ot wins are worth little more that a tie. They are only worth 55% of a win. Basically a loss and a tie on the weekend. Not real impressive. Blew a 2 goal lead and a late 3rd period lead. This team has the right to get better, but this was not a good weekend. Would you rather pretend we got swept? Picking nits is hazardous for your health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Would you rather pretend we got swept? Picking nits is hazardous for your health. No, but we didn't split. It's barely better than the shoot out win Mankato got the weekend before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post burd Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, Big Green said: Anyone else annoyed by the fact we are calling this weekend a split. 3x3 ot wins are worth little more that a tie. They are only worth 55% of a win. Basically a loss and a tie on the weekend. Not real impressive. Blew a 2 goal lead and a late 3rd period lead. This team has the right to get better, but this was not a good weekend. I'm pretty ignorant, but I'd call last weekend's performance good. They more than matched a loaded team on their ice. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Green said: No, but we didn't split. It's barely better than the shoot out win Mankato got the weekend before. Mankato's shootout "win" the weekend before was literally worth ZERO (the game officially goes down as a tie, a 50-50 split). Our OT win last Saturday night was worth 55% (a 55-45 split in our favor). That 5% doesn't seem like much until you remember when the Goofs missed the tournament by .0001 in the PWR a few years back. It could also make the difference between a higher or lower seed. Not that I want to have to rely on that come March, but you never know if it will be significant until Selection Sunday rolls around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tnt Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, Big Green said: No, but we didn't split. It's barely better than the shoot out win Mankato got the weekend before. On 11/5/2023 at 9:54 AM, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: .67 for an OT win x 1.2 for a road win = .804 of a win + a Quality Win Bonus for any team beaten in the top 20 of the RPI(assuming BU is in this at EOY). In other words, no one truly knows how much of a win this is until the regular season ends. A little better than you make it out to be. You just keep on being annoyed, and the rest of us will just enjoy the season. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, tnt said: A little better than you make it out to be. You just keep on being annoyed, and the rest of us will just enjoy the season. Hopefully the team will earn a top four seed in March and this whole discussion will be moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, tnt said: A little better than you make it out to be. "Enjoy the season"! I'll enjoy the season. OT win is worth 55%, not 67%. Either way it is not a split. IMO a good weekend is a sweep at home and split on the road. That should be the standard of a team looking to win a National Championship. National Championship should be the goal every year for a UND team. Like I said they have the right to improve and I expect they will with 8 new defensemen. Goaltender looks like a great pick-up. Only real point is this was not a split. As Saturday was 55% of a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Big Green said: I'll enjoy the season. OT win is worth 55%, not 67%. Either way it is not a split. IMO a good weekend is a sweep at home and split on the road. That should be the standard of a team looking to win a National Championship. National Championship should be the goal every year for a UND team. Like I said they have the right to improve and I expect they will with 8 new defensemen. Goaltender looks like a great pick-up. Only real point is this was not a split. As Saturday was 55% of a win. So @InHeavenThereIsNoBeer is full of crap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: So @InHeavenThereIsNoBeer is full of crap? He's spreading Fake News. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tnt Posted November 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Big Green said: He's spreading Fake News. If you don't know what you're talking about, best not act like you do. https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2022/10/24_Understanding-the-Pairwise.php 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, tnt said: If you don't know what you're talking about, best not act like you do. https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2022/10/24_Understanding-the-Pairwise.php I'll second that, try to keep up Big Green 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: I'll second that I guess I was the one spreading Fake news. I totally missed that this was changed last year. Doesn't change the fact it was not a split. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Green said: I guess I was the one spreading Fake news. I totally missed that this was changed last year. Doesn't change the fact it was not a split. Then what should we call it? Any ideas? I really wish they would get rid of these stupid formulas and go back to something that makes sense. Have an NCAA-wide 4x4 OT for 10 minutes. If it's still tied, then it goes down as a tie. If someone scores in OT, it is a win (not 55% or 67% or anything else). We have made this way too complicated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodbuster Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, fightingsioux4life said: Then what should we call it? Any ideas? I really wish they would get rid of these stupid formulas and go back to something that makes sense. Have an NCAA-wide 4x4 OT for 10 minutes. If it's still tied, then it goes down as a tie. If someone scores in OT, it is a win (not 55% or 67% or anything else). We have made this way too complicated. Totally agree! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, fightingsioux4life said: Then what should we call it? Any ideas? I really wish they would get rid of these stupid formulas and go back to something that makes sense. Have an NCAA-wide 4x4 OT for 10 minutes. If it's still tied, then it goes down as a tie. If someone scores in OT, it is a win (not 55% or 67% or anything else). We have made this way too complicated. Loss and OT Win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, Big Green said: Loss and OT Win. Simple and accurate. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Big Green said: Doesn't change the fact it was not a split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Big Green said: I guess I was the one spreading Fake news. I totally missed that this was changed last year. Doesn't change the fact it was not a split. Indeed you were, and I never never said it was so you seem to be arguing yourself presently. I'm not as concerned about the nuance on if it's a split or 45% of a split as I am with how the team is playing, which I think is pretty damn good(especially for early November). If you want everyone to feel 5% more disappointed because it wasn't a full split, you're going to be fully disappointed. There are still fans going nuts for non-conference shootout wins. In fact, if you want to turn that mirror back at yourself all splits aren't even created equal so why are they called a split?! A regulation win and loss @ BU is worth much more than a regulation win and loss at home vs Miami. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skateshattrick Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, Big Green said: I guess I was the one spreading Fake news. I totally missed that this was changed last year. Doesn't change the fact it was not a split. How does that crow taste, despite the fact that you are still in denial? It is a split because it goes as a win on UND's record and a loss on BU's record. Additionally, we get at least 67% credit for the "win", whether you choose to call it that or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 What a ridiculous argument this is. Do any of us really feel that us winning in OT shouldn't be a win? We legit got a win on our record for it. Cripes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Why do I get the feeling that Big Green would be the first to be complaining about getting swept by BU if the outcome of the overtime would have been reversed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, tnt said: Why do I get the feeling that Big Green would be the first to be complaining about getting swept by BU if the outcome of the overtime would have been reversed. Doesn't even make sense. I would be upset if it was called a sweep when it was a Loss and OT Loss. Not the same as a sweep. I sweep implies 1 team got at whole pie and the other not nothing. A split implies both teams got 1/2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin G Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said: We have made this way too complicated. 5-1-0-0-1-0 This is the current record for a random college hockey team as presented on USCHO.com. This is just ridiculous. You shouldn't need more than two dashes. Wins, losses, ties. Please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 I guess I got my answer. I'm the only 1 that doesn't consider a loss and 3x3 win a split. Just my opinion. I will drop it as I need to go on with my day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.