UND @ UNI 10/21/2023

[GoodGood]

1 minute ago, siouxweet said:

A good OC develops a game plan to the QBs strengths

I think he’s trying to. Plenty of swing passes and bubble screens. Watch some of the throws Theo Day made yesterday. Haven’t seen any of those in 4 years of Tommy. Even Matress Cam made a couple throws last Saturday that we haven’t seen in 4 years. It’s sad 

[Kab]

The coaches meeting today should be an all out shouting match

find out why this crap happens

if they can’t figure it out hit the road coach 

what does Tommy have over these coaches

hope they have the balls to move on next year 

[Siouxperman8]

I couldn’t watch the second half and I guess that turned out to be good.  The unforced fumble by Tommy on first drive and the missed fg killed any hope of building  momentum 

[Sioux94]

6 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

I couldn’t watch the second half and I guess that turned out to be good.  The unforced fumble by Tommy on first drive and the missed fg killed any hope of building  momentum 

I had an emergency pop up and I missed pretty much all of the 2nd half, which turned out to not be missing much. 

I probably shouldn't come on to the board at 2am and post after a night out, but dang thinking about how the game went just makes me mad. 

Since I missed 2nd half.... when did Feeney actually get in.....if ever? Did they try anything with Romfo in 2nd half?

[Kab]

29 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

I had an emergency pop up and I missed pretty much all of the 2nd half, which turned out to not be missing much. 

I probably shouldn't come on to the board at 2am and post after a night out, but dang thinking about how the game went just makes me mad. 

Since I missed 2nd half.... when did Feeney actually get in.....if ever? Did they try anything with Romfo in 2nd half?

Was in with a few minutes to go

first hike was 2 feet over his head 

should have been in to start 2nd half 

 

[Mama Sue]

2 hours ago, siouxweet said:

A good OC develops a game plan to the QBs strengths

And has a Plan B

[gfhockey]

So who should be fire

[Big Green]

There is a reason Tommy was a D2 recruit.  He would be a good D2 QB.  If we didn’t have a QB decommit right before signing day he wouldn’t be in the program.  He became the starting QB be default as our QB room was so bad.  I sure hope he is not back next year as we seem to have a pretty good room right now.  I know he gets credit for being calm and composed but he just looks lost to me. 

[fightingsioux4life]

3 hours ago, Mama Sue said:

He had  some issues too…every coach does (and he left coaching so not so sure about that). The question is: is UND willing to pay what it takes to get a quality, experience  head coach and then follow up with all the $$$ to promote the team?

I mean, the history of paying minimal $$$ for all inexperienced coaches several years ago should be fresh in the minds of administration.

Until there is a $$$ commitment, we should support Bubba not ax him.  I am sure the time commitment and steer makes many coaches wonder….many jobs are like that.

So just accept that the status quo is as good as it will ever get? We are capable of so much more. We need to establish a Division I funding model that doesn't rely so much on 50/50 raffles and selling tickets to walk-up crowds on game day.

[ChrisUND1]

13 hours ago, nd1sufan said:

Not sure why they played this week. I thought last week was for the National Championship. Storming the field, crying at the press conference. That doesn’t happen after a mid season win. They already accomplished more this season than they ever expected to. The season is a success for UND’s players and most of their fans. They finally beat the mighty Bison.

Bubba crying had a lot to do with his deceased brother Lowell, who was a hell of a human being.  There are definitely some issues with Bubba as a coach but he is one genuine man.  If you’ve experienced a loss of a loved one like he has, you know exactly what he was feeling up there last week.  

[Big Green]

If not going to say the NDSU game is meaningless, but sure has the chance to be.  All the win did was set us up to be the best team in the state and a national championship contender.  If we finish 7-4 and lose in the 1st or 2nd round we have not really gotten anywhere.  In the mean time if NDSU gets to 8-3, which I think they will and makes a run in the playoffs we are stuck in the same place.  Right now last week seems like a fluke.  We need to finish the year ahead of Ndsu or the win is meaningless.

[GoodGood]

27 minutes ago, Big Green said:

There is a reason Tommy was a D2 recruit.  He would be a good D2 QB.  If we didn’t have a QB decommit right before signing day he wouldn’t be in the program.  He became the starting QB be default as our QB room was so bad.  I sure hope he is not back next year as we seem to have a pretty good room right now.  I know he gets credit for being calm and composed but he just looks lost to me. 

But Walter Payton?? But school records?? But posters with vendettas against him?? How is this possible?

[Mama Sue]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

So just accept that the status quo is as good as it will ever get? We are capable of so much more. We need to establish a Division I funding model that doesn't rely so much on 50/50 raffles and selling tickets to walk-up crowds on game day.

No, never accept mediocrity BUT the coaches coach and someone else needs to do PR and media. I do like their recent FB posts for the hype in the community. Is there no one on payroll or volunteers to do OR and marketing?

[forksandspoons]

Haven’t read the previous comments, but here is what I observed yesterday:

- UNI turf has to be the oldest in the country; the type of turf you wear basketball shoes on. Just an observation 

- we need to simplify the offensive play calling on the road; when you’re out of a rhythm get back to the basics 

- missed FG was brutal 

- punting was not good 

- this is the most frustrating part: down 17-0, with 40+ seconds left in the half, on 3rd and 18 for UNI in their own territory, while having 3 timeouts, we decide to let them run the clock out into the half. WTF?!?!? could have at least tried for a blocked punt, or ANYTHING to get some momentum. That was the low point in the game for me. Unreal 

 

[Sioux>Bison]

19 hours ago, SiouxBoys said:

Nah I don't. Today's performance was unacceptable. It does not however make last week "irrelevant". Bubba didn't earn himself a "lifetime contract" either. Danny was promoted to associate head coach for a reason. Change is coming.

Danny’s offense scoring ZERO points is why UND lost that game. The loss is just as much on Danny as it is Bubba. Defense got zero help this game

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, forksandspoons said:

Haven’t read the previous comments, but here is what I observed yesterday:

- UNI turf has to be the oldest in the country; the type of turf you wear basketball shoes on. Just an observation 

- we need to simplify the offensive play calling on the road; when you’re out of a rhythm get back to the basics 

- missed FG was brutal 

- punting was not good 

- this is the most frustrating part: down 17-0, with 40+ seconds left in the half, on 3rd and 18 for UNI in their own territory, while having 3 timeouts, we decide to let them run the clock out into the half. WTF?!?!? could have at least tried for a blocked punt, or ANYTHING to get some momentum. That was the low point in the game for me. Unreal 

 

most frustrating part was seeing tommy pull on his glove and chin strap to start the second half............

[UND-FB-FAN]

6 hours ago, Mama Sue said:

He had  some issues too…every coach does (and he left coaching so not so sure about that). The question is: is UND willing to pay what it takes to get a quality, experience  head coach and then follow up with all the $$$ to promote the team?

I mean, the history of paying minimal $$$ for all inexperienced coaches several years ago should be fresh in the minds of administration.

Until there is a $$$ commitment, we should support Bubba not ax him.  I am sure the time commitment and steer makes many coaches wonder….many jobs are like that.

I think you missed the point here. I’m not advocating for Dale to leave his position with the State Historical Society, but I am advocating for new leadership like what Dale brings to the table. Bubba just doesn’t have it. Nice guy, wish him the best, but my sources extend well beyond the numerous road debacles we witness on the field/television. Time to move on, several others agree, but I don’t know if the actual people making the decisions agree. 

[nodak651]

16 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

utah with walkoff 38 yd fg right down the middle...........it looks so easy??????????!!!!!!!

How many games has this coaching staff lost because they have just settled with below avg kickers? 

[UND-FB-FAN]

5 hours ago, GoodGood said:

He’s probably not the answer but I just want to see him call plays for a QB that can throw the ball more than 5 yards downfield. 

Yeah well he and Bubba have had that opportunity for years, so whose fault is it? There are plenty of QBs on the roster.  With that said, need to be cautious because everyone always loves the back up QB until they actually go out there and play. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 hours ago, Big Green said:

If not going to say the NDSU game is meaningless, but sure has the chance to be.  All the win did was set us up to be the best team in the state and a national championship contender.  If we finish 7-4 and lose in the 1st or 2nd round we have not really gotten anywhere.  In the mean time if NDSU gets to 8-3, which I think they will and makes a run in the playoffs we are stuck in the same place.  Right now last week seems like a fluke.  We need to finish the year ahead of Ndsu or the win is meaningless.

Either a fluke or a major missed opportunity, both inexcusable. This coaching staff / program is so frustrating. 

[Kab]

I’m sure Indiana state is breaking down our film and will know every weakness we have and will attack those areas

wont be easy to win against them

not sure how our coaches will attack the next game

there will be some head scratching calls 

we have to be the worst team at making in game or any adjustments 

[Mama Sue]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

I think you missed the point here. I’m not advocating for Dale to leave his position with the State Historical Society, but I am advocating for new leadership like what Dale brings to the table. Bubba just doesn’t have it. Nice guy, wish him the best, but my sources extend well beyond the numerous road debacles we witness on the field/television. Time to move on, several others agree, but I don’t know if the actual people making the decisions agree. 

See my second post clarifying the statement. YOU missed the point. People who know more than me can evaluate coaches and rehire/replace. My point is that a first class, successful team needs MORE than coaching (but coaching comes first). The PER, media, fundraising and role in the community is a package deal we seem to be missing. It is very hard/impossible to focus on that after watching the game yesterday. But the program needs help. Start with coaching (the most important) but that  is not all we need.

[Hammersmith]

2 hours ago, forksandspoons said:

Haven’t read the previous comments, but here is what I observed yesterday:

- UNI turf has to be the oldest in the country; the type of turf you wear basketball shoes on. Just an observation 

6 years is the oldest in the country?

Because of the constraints of their facility, UNI chose to go with the non-infill version of the same turf that's in the Fargodome and Dakotadome. Instead of PVC infill on top of the base layer, they went with a PVC pad under the base layer. 

They tried an infill turf last time and it was a complete disaster for them.

[forksandspoons]

33 minutes ago, Hammersmith said:

6 years is the oldest in the country?

Because of the constraints of their facility, UNI chose to go with the non-infill version of the same turf that's in the Fargodome and Dakotadome. Instead of PVC infill on top of the base layer, they went with a PVC pad under the base layer. 

They tried an infill turf last time and it was a complete disaster for them.

Excuse my ignorance for not knowing the history of their turf. I was pointing out that it looked like crap 

[UND-FB-FAN]

45 minutes ago, Mama Sue said:

The PER, media, fundraising and role in the community is a package deal we seem to be missing.

Win games and that will come. Don’t put the cart before the horse. You’re right that coaching is the most important and first on the list (that is the horse).