The UND @ Boise State 9/16/2023

[Hawkster]

Right now I'd say UND goes 8-3 with loses to NDSU and SDSU.  We make the playoffs and either win one or none.  Things just keep repeating.  

Boise tried hard to lose and still won it.   Tons of mistakes by Boise and look how it ended.

[The Sicatoka]

If only 4 had held the easy pick six it would have put some pressure on BSU

[MafiaMan]

25 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Ask NDSU (and even SDSU of late) if those odds hold up… I’ll wait.

You're supporting mediocrity, and there’s no reasonable way to spin it. It’s not just you, though; it’s a culture issue. 

Some FBS/FCS scores from last weekend for you:

Florida 49, McNeese State 7

Louisville 56, Murray State 0

Indiana 41, Indiana State 7  

[Sodacker]

Boise had mistakes in the 3rd quarter but overall und was a disaster mistakes wise. Much more than Boise. 

[Sioux94]

16 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

If only 4 had held the easy pick six it would have put some pressure on BSU

As I think I mentioned once before the game, we have to take advantage of every opportunity that presents itself. That is a good example of when we didn't, a long with fumbling the ball away before half when going in for the tying score. I hate NDSU, but they always made those plays in those games when it mattered. They uncannily made those key plays every time when it mattered for like 10 straight years. 

[gfhockey]

34 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

Some FBS/FCS scores from last weekend for you:

Florida 49, McNeese State 7

Louisville 56, Murray State 0

Indiana 41, Indiana State 7  

I believe those are all power 5 fbs teams it I’m not mistaken 

[ChrisUND1]

1 hour ago, siouxweet said:

Boise was nothing more than a glorified FCS program.  Nothing that was jaw dropping about them.  Difference was UND self destructed.

This was my read as well.  

[SIOUXFAN97]

13 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

I believe those are all power 5 fbs teams it I’m not mistaken 

and all 3 of those schools could care less about football........

[homer]

1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

and all 3 of those schools could care less about football........

Exactly.  Not a great comparison.  

[HoopsFan03]

1 hour ago, Sioux>Bison said:

We should really question some of your judgments if you thought UND showed they were good enough to beat this Boise team. Hard to take any of you seriously.

It baffles me how you and others are okay with losing. I don't care who we played, you are admitting to being okay with losing. That is such a sh***y attitude and thought process to have. And that is exactly the issue with UND football currently. Too many people are okay with losing, don't want to hold coaches & players accountable, and don't expect more! 

I've said it before on here as a former college athlete, but fan expectations absolutely matter. They absolutely affect how the players and coaches perform. Overall, UND football fan and athletic department expectations are that they are okay losing in big games and are okay being average. Things won't change until everyone around UND football and fans start to expect more.

[farce poobah]

I'm bothered more by the manner in which we lost, than the loss itself.   

Going on the road to a solid FBS team was always going to be long odds against winning.  But the many errors, mental and physical, need to be fixed soon.   Good time to have a bye week and get our heads on straight before the next big games. 

[Sioux>Bison]

1 minute ago, HoopsFan03 said:

It baffles me how you and others are okay with losing. I don't care who we played, you are admitting to being okay with losing. That is such a sh***y attitude and thought process to have. And that is exactly the issue with UND football currently. Too many people are okay with losing, don't want to hold coaches & players accountable, and don't expect more! 

I've said it before on here as a former college athlete, but fan expectations absolutely matter. They absolutely affect how the players and coaches perform. Overall, UND football fan and athletic department expectations are that they are okay losing in big games and are okay being average. Things won't change until everyone around UND football and fans start to expect more.

I’m not happy with this loss. I’m also not going to call for the coach’s heads after one game or give up on this team when there is a ton of season left. Need to play perfect in the two big SU matchups and be perfect on the rest of the games. Tall task but we can do it

[shep]

4 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

It baffles me how you and others are okay with losing. I don't care who we played, you are admitting to being okay with losing. That is such a sh***y attitude and thought process to have. And that is exactly the issue with UND football currently. Too many people are okay with losing, don't want to hold coaches & players accountable, and don't expect more! 

I've said it before on here as a former college athlete, but fan expectations absolutely matter. They absolutely affect how the players and coaches perform. Overall, UND football fan and athletic department expectations are that they are okay losing in big games and are okay being average. Things won't change until everyone around UND football and fans start to expect more.

Please tell me you don't think that the players and coaches perform according to the thoughts of a group of 40 guys/gals chat on a team message board!

And for the record almost all of us have higher expectations than you suggest; the only issue is most of us do not keep rehashing negative history to support our thoughts. 

[GoodGood]

3 minutes ago, shep said:

Please tell me you don't think that the players and coaches perform according to the thoughts of a group of 40 guys/gals chat on a team message board!

And for the record almost all of us have higher expectations than you suggest; the only issue is most of us do not keep rehashing negative history to support our thoughts. 

I think the expectations for UND football go beyond this message board…

[MafiaMan]

47 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

I believe those are all power 5 fbs teams it I’m not mistaken 

Yea, when I think “Power 5,” Louisville and Indiana are right up there.

[GoodGood]

2 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

Yea, when I think “Power 5,” Louisville and Indiana are right up there.

None of the FCS teams you listed care about football. If you want to lump UND in with those teams so be it. Maybe that’s where we belong..

[shep]

5 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

I think the expectations for UND football go beyond this message board…

I sure hope so and from those that I've encountered, none have low expectations. Frustrations, sure, but expectations are high.

[siouxweet]

2 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

and all 3 of those schools could care less about football........

I think Florida cares, just hasn't been very good since Urban left.

[iramurphy]

4 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

We should really question some of your judgments if you thought UND showed they were good enough to beat this Boise team. Hard to take any of you seriously.

Actually I think UND is good enough to have won this game. They didn’t play well enough to win this game. Missed XP, too many missed tackles, dropped ints, lost outside contain too many times, terrible center snaps, QB fumbles, QB slow to deliver passes, defense can ignore our TE’s.  Disappointing loss. 

You are correct cuz with these mistakes, they didn’t show what they are capable of. 
 

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

22 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Actually I think UND is good enough to have won this game. They didn’t play well enough to win this game. Missed XP, too many missed tackles, dropped ints, lost outside contain too many times, terrible center snaps, QB fumbles, QB slow to deliver passes, defensive can ignore our TE’s.  Disappointing loss. 
 

 

yeah where did q go?  odd

[90siouxfan]

I thought it was odd that Elidor didn't see much time or sooner.  Same with Hunt, with Smith out why didn't he get in before 5 minutes to go?

[Sioux94]

Seems like there were a few times we should have run it up the middle on first down, or other times. Seemed like we were pretty successful running up the middle. But will have to watch the game again to see. 

[MafiaMan]

3 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

and all 3 of those schools could care less about football........

 

3 hours ago, homer said:

Exactly.  Not a great comparison.  

Florida doesn’t care about football?  Surely, you jest.  The fact that the other two schools who “could care less about football” absolutely whooped two FCS schools kind of proves my point, doesn’t it? 

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, MafiaMan said:

 

Florida doesn’t care about football?  Surely, you jest.  The fact that the other two schools who “could care less about football” absolutely whooped two FCS schools kind of proves my point, doesn’t it? 

we meant murray state, mcneese state, and isu.................

[MafiaMan]

3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

we meant murray state, mcneese state, and isu.................

I’m trying to wrap my head around how folks think a middle-of-the-road FCS team would roll into Boise and expect to walk away with a W.   SDSU or NDSU might be able to do that - but it’s still a BIG maybe.