Siouxperman8 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 My first thought with Danny going to SDSU was of when Ben Jacobson left as UND bb assistant to move to NDSU for the same role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 9 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Maybe this is a good move for the future so we won’t be so inbred. Danny will learn some other styles from other staffs that have been successful. Don't leave out poaching some of their talent! One can dream lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: What is "excess" cash? What are their monthly operational cash needs? What are their required (by lenders, by their charter) reserves of cash? Are they managing the funds well (not just in simple savings but managed short-term funds with market returns)? Do they have debt obligations, most notably to UND Athletics? I've seen the number "$15M" cash reserves. It'd take 20x that to rebuild REA/BESC. Could there be more transparency? Yes. But until I know the additional details I reserve judgement. I don't blame the boogeyman until I know it's really scary and not a mirage. What people are saying is - let's see the details. I'd like to figure out what happens to the 52% of fb ticket revenue and why it's needed. Is it helping to pay off the Betty or ? One thing I learned in business and helping to manage a company is that people will fill in their own details if you don't give them the information. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Betty’s paid off in 2023. Where’s that cash savings going now 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said: What people are saying is - let's see the details. Like I said, "... until I know the additional details I reserve judgement." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Like I said, "... until I know the additional details I reserve judgement." And we won’t get those details so no surprise that people will fill in the blanks based on what they see. Human nature 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 23 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: What is "excess" cash? What are their monthly operational cash needs? What are their required (by lenders, by their charter) reserves of cash? Are they managing the funds well (not just in simple savings but managed short-term funds with market returns)? Do they have debt obligations, most notably to UND Athletics? I've seen the number "$15M" cash reserves. It'd take 20x that to rebuild REA/BESC. Could there be more transparency? Yes. But until I know the additional details I reserve judgement. I don't blame the boogeyman until I know it's really scary and not a mirage. I never said in cash "reserves", specifically. Some if it is in reserve funds and a lot of it isn't. And I'm not saying that there is a boogeyman. I don't think anyone is being swindled. My speculation is that there could be some disagreement with how some of the money could be spent, so it just isn't spent at all. Their liabilities are mostly either payables to UND for various reasons or deferred revenue. From what I can tell, they don't have lenders either. My overall point isn't that anyone is stealing money or anything like that. It's that there is money that can be better utilized to help other programs, and money doesn't necessarily need to be taken away from hockey in order to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 hours ago, jdub27 said: Again with pretending anyone is content. Again, I ask you to show me that anyone has explicitly said "good enough". No one is. The program needs to keep improving. But most of us just don't want to see it slide backwards for that to happen to prove some sort of point or be able to say we were "right" about something. Pushing for things like improved facilities, player nutrition, coaches salaries, etc. are things that move the program forward. Not withholding funds and then complaining that things aren't improving. If anything, that seems asinine to me. -Facilities are far from the problem. Und has excelled in that category compared to 3/4 of the fcs. Throw that out the window. -coaching salaries. This is a must to hire a competent qualified coach and staff. Can UND ponie up ? Or can they and refuse to? - player nutrition . With the transfer culture now …keeping above average talent will be nearly impossible. Money talks combined with transfer ease makes nutrition very difficult Again …it’s been noted numerous times but extending Bubba after a s&@t season just shows the true colors for und athletics (minus hockey). Keep it simple ….keep the cheap guy. Complacency at its best. In their eyes mediocre is better than the worst. How about striving for the best ? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Where is Chaves in all of this? He cannot possibly think it's business as usual, can he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forksandspoons Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 31 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Where is Chaves in all of this? He cannot possibly think it's business as usual, can he? Well, he's under contract until 2026 making at least $221K a year in Grand Forks, ND, and nearing retirement age. What motivation does he have? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoSiouxFan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 12 hours ago, Sioux94 said: Vogler, UMD OC had his offense average 37.7 points a game in 2023. I know nothing about the NSIC but he must be doing something right on offense. I'm thinking that he would be a good choice. Landry or King wouldn't be bad, either. All three former QB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 When the time comes to select a new head coach, I hope a QB coach at an FCS school isn’t the choice. If you want to keep it in the UND tree there are other guys that have actually been part of the building of successful programs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Do Jake Landry or Luke Schleussner have better resume than Danny Freund. One could argue it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 If we hire inside the team I believe we are throwing the white flag if we get a Landry or Luke there’s still hope 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 If I were Jake or Luke and wanted more than another OC gig, I'd stay on the outside for now, like Freund just did. Kelly Howe's (UNDFootball360) take re: Freund seems spot on to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, gfhockey said: If we hire inside the team I believe we are throwing the white flag if we get a Landry or Luke there’s still hope Bubba fired Luke when he got to GF, thought Rudy was a better option. I suppose the OC with next year HC would be enticing, but that's not the Vibe I am hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND-fan Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I have gut feeling Chaves comes in next week or two and extends Bubba’s contract a year based on this past year. The under lying reason is to bring outside OC giving that person that will be some continuity in the program. This would guarantee at least two or three year commitment. Second if he doesn’t we loose players and have terrible season go backwards loss in revenues and having back to back seasons limbo could destroy the program even worse then 2013 year and then to get somebody to take over the program may set the program back even further. I believe Chaves wants continuity and having program maintains upper quality level with ability to get to championship level and within long-term goal of staying in budget. I wonder what will be reaction from people on this board if this happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I see path of least resistance: - King and Pawlak as co-OCs - King takes over QBs - new hire guy takes over WRs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fightingsioux4life Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 32 minutes ago, ND-fan said: I have gut feeling Chaves comes in next week or two and extends Bubba’s contract a year based on this past year. The under lying reason is to bring outside OC giving that person that will be some continuity in the program. This would guarantee at least two or three year commitment. Second if he doesn’t we loose players and have terrible season go backwards loss in revenues and having back to back seasons limbo could destroy the program even worse then 2013 year and then to get somebody to take over the program may set the program back even further. I believe Chaves wants continuity and having program maintains upper quality level with ability to get to championship level and within long-term goal of staying in budget. I wonder what will be reaction from people on this board if this happens. If this happens, Chaves need to go. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 36 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: Bubba fired Luke when he got to GF, thought Rudy was a better option. Oh my ... Luke's resume is linked above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 19 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: I see path of least resistance: - King and Pawlak as co-OCs - King takes over QBs - new hire guy takes over WRs My thoughts as well. Maybe Hardin finally lands that assistant job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 A few people seem to think King if we stay with internal. Seems like Landry has a better resume than King and has already been an OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gundy1124 Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 17 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: I see path of least resistance: - King and Pawlak as co-OCs - King takes over QBs - new hire guy takes over WRs Sam King - 4 year QB Bemidji State with a stat line of 5-for-13 (38.5%) for 85 yards, for his career. Place holder as a Sr. Next, 2 years of quality control at UND (I don't even know what that means other than cutting up film, getting coffee and lunch for real coaches) Then, 2 years GA at UMD to help with RBs. Then, 5 years WR coach at UND. There isn't an easier position to coach than WR and RB. Co -OC or OC......you got to be kidding. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: Co -OC or OC......you got to be kidding. Like I said, path of least resistance, would be that. And it's not far removed from the resume of the DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 16 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Oh my ... Luke's resume is linked above. I've known Luke since the 1st day he stepped on campus and we still talk. He's surely qualified, but I don't see a way UND can lure him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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