2024 UND Football

[Hawkster]

31 minutes ago, MadScout03 said:

So Bubba can’t coach or recruit from the portal…or was that your point?

I'm just saying the portal hasn't been cure all, at least for us, that some people want to think it is.   Nothing more.

[geaux_sioux]

2 hours ago, Hawkster said:

The portal hasn't gotten us anywhere in those last 10 years either.

We haven’t had any success in 10 years. Your suggestion is that we can’t afford to change?

[Sioux95]

6 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Do you like our current path of the last 10 years?

Not at all. Our current path over the last 10 years falls on bubba, not so much on the talent that we have. Good coaches can get their players to run through a brick wall. Bubba is never going to accomplish that and he's also not going to replace any of the good players who entered the portal with better players from other teams. Turning things around at UND isn't going to be accomplished by bringing in a mass number of portal players - think Missouri State. It's going to be accomplished by getting rid of bubba

[NDRA]

13 minutes ago, Sioux95 said:

Not at all. Our current path over the last 10 years falls on bubba, not so much on the talent that we have. Good coaches can get their players to run through a brick wall. Bubba is never going to accomplish that and he's also not going to replace any of the good players who entered the portal with better players from other teams. Turning things around at UND isn't going to be accomplished by bringing in a mass number of portal players - think Missouri State. It's going to be accomplished by getting rid of bubba

Looks like Mo State is doing pretty good right now with portal guys?

[geaux_sioux]

23 minutes ago, Sioux95 said:

Not at all. Our current path over the last 10 years falls on bubba, not so much on the talent that we have. Good coaches can get their players to run through a brick wall. Bubba is never going to accomplish that and he's also not going to replace any of the good players who entered the portal with better players from other teams. Turning things around at UND isn't going to be accomplished by bringing in a mass number of portal players - think Missouri State. It's going to be accomplished by getting rid of bubba

We don’t have the talent though. So what are we talking about here. They haven’t changed their recruiting strategy ever. Same approach, same results. Again and again. Small front 7, can’t stop the run. Can’t recruit DBs even though the HC used to coach DBs. Non explosive WRs. It’s a recipe for….. 7-5 every year and can’t win on the road or in the playoffs. 

[Sioux95]

13 minutes ago, NDRA said:

Looks like Mo State is doing pretty good right now with portal guys?

Short memory 

[UND Football Fan]

9 minutes ago, NDRA said:

Looks like Mo State is doing pretty good right now with portal guys?

They may be getting a little better of athlete because of their move to FBS. 
 

ISU blue good wideout was FBS drop down. 
 

bringing some to fill gaps I’m for (Montana last year), wholesale acquisition may affect chemistry and game work ethic/effort lacking (Murray State). 

[Sioux95]

1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said:

We don’t have the talent though. So what are we talking about here. They haven’t changed their recruiting strategy ever. Same approach, same results. Again and again. Small front 7, can’t stop the run. Can’t recruit DBs even though the HC used to coach DBs. Non explosive WRs. It’s a recipe for….. 7-5 every year and can’t win on the road or in the playoffs. 

We could certainly use a talent upgrade. That's true for most teams regardless.  Bigger issue by far is bubba.  Bubba isn't going to bring in better talent through the portal. Not sure what we've seen in the past 10 years that would make anyone believe that's a possibility

[geaux_sioux]

16 minutes ago, Sioux95 said:

We could certainly use a talent upgrade. That's true for most teams regardless.  Bigger issue by far is bubba.  Bubba isn't going to bring in better talent through the portal. Not sure what we've seen in the past 10 years that would make anyone believe that's a possibility

It all trickles down from the HC. Everything. We’ve seen his peak. And that was with a good chunk of guys from the previous coach. 

[F'n Hawks]

7 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

It all trickles down from the HC. Everything. We’ve seen his peak. And that was with a good chunk of guys from the previous coach. 

They said this on the 360 podcast today but even the 2016 season everything had to go right for them. Think about all the crazy wins they had. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

14 hours ago, NDRA said:

Looks like Mo State is doing pretty good right now with portal guys?

Yes, with a different coach. Thanks for agreeing with the underlying concept.
 Bobby Petrino —> Ryan Beard. 

[geaux_sioux]

16 hours ago, F'n Hawks said:

They said this on the 360 podcast today but even the 2016 season everything had to go right for them. Think about all the crazy wins they had. 

Honestly the best team I’ve seen was 2015 last 3 games once Studsrud came back from injury. That was a more complete team with Clive going deep and the best front 7 of the D1 era by a mile.

[gundy1124]

16 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

We don’t have the talent though. So what are we talking about here. They haven’t changed their recruiting strategy ever. Same approach, same results. Again and again. Small front 7, can’t stop the run. Can’t recruit DBs even though the HC used to coach DBs. Non explosive WRs. It’s a recipe for….. 7-5 every year and can’t win on the road or in the playoffs. 

Agreed.  The staffs under Bubba (minus Rudy) have met a minimum threshold of X's and O's to be successful.  Our roster has had some right parts in place at various times but never enough in place at one time. 

[Siouxperman8]

8 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

Agreed.  The staffs under Bubba (minus Rudy) have met a minimum threshold of X's and O's to be successful.  Our roster has had some right parts in place at various times but never enough in place at one time. 

This is my opinion too. I don’t agree with theory that says we don’t recruit right players. We do but don’t land enough of our top targets. 

[F'n Hawks]

1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said:

Honestly the best team I’ve seen was 2015 last 3 games once Studsrud came back from injury. That was a more complete team with Clive going deep and the best front 7 of the D1 era by a mile.

They also said this on 360, but weird that in 11 years under Bubba that is the only team that improved during the year and was playing their best football at the end.

[Devils]

4 hours ago, Siouxperman8 said:

This is my opinion too. I don’t agree with theory that says we don’t recruit right players. We do but don’t land enough of our top targets. 

I'm not sure we have a defensive player that would start for the SU's.  1 or 2 tops.

[UND1983]

Facilities keep getting better but our record doesn’t

[NDSU grad]

6 hours ago, Devils said:

I'm not sure we have a defensive player that would start for the SU's.  1 or 2 tops.

Pedigo for sure. Might be a few others but I thought he was a dude when I watched him against the Bison. 

[shep]

1 hour ago, NDSU grad said:

Pedido for sure. Might be a few others but I thought he was a dude when I watched him against the Bison. 

Rucker?

 

[NDSU grad]

3 hours ago, shep said:

Rucker?

 

Yeah,  I don’t follow you guys closely. I just remember Pedigo standing out. I was also impressed with the back end of your defense. I’m sure there’s a few guys who could play for either of the SU’s. 

[MinnDak]

22 hours ago, Siouxperman8 said:

This is my opinion too. I don’t agree with theory that says we don’t recruit right players. We do but don’t land enough of our top targets. 

Offense is stacked. They might not be on the field if you follow that. There is more than a few that should be starting. I also hear chatter that’s some O and D lineman could move on either side of the ball and aren’t utilized.  Minnesota and Wisconsin player of the year both never found the field yet. Multiple lineman on both sides of the ball recruited by other big schools including the Iowa’s. Some have not found the field either. Kilty looks like a man possessed at KState. Ventrelli was best in FCS. Bryant starts at San Diego. On and on and on. 

[CMSioux]

On 11/6/2024 at 3:42 PM, NDRA said:

Looks like Mo State is doing pretty good right now with portal guys?

Probably looking at 8-4 with no ranked wins - guessing that would not fly here. I realize they are not eligible for the playoffs, but even if they were they would be bubble.  

[Bison Dan]

1 hour ago, MinnDak said:

Offense is stacked. They might not be on the field if you follow that. There is more than a few that should be starting. I also hear chatter that’s some O and D lineman could move on either side of the ball and aren’t utilized.  Minnesota and Wisconsin player of the year both never found the field yet. Multiple lineman on both sides of the ball recruited by other big schools including the Iowa’s. Some have not found the field either. Kilty looks like a man possessed at KState. Ventrelli was best in FCS. Bryant starts at San Diego. On and on and on. 

LOL

[MinnDak]

1 hour ago, Bison Dan said:

LOL

That’s not taking anything away from Bison so not sure what you are implying? 

[SIOUX29]

18 hours ago, shep said:

Rucker?

 

Rucker passes the eye test, but that's about it in my opinion. Only a sophomore though, so hopefully he keeps improving. Should show more than he does, unless they're putting him in bad spots? I see he flexes out some.