2024 UND Football

[Sioux>Bison]

Pawlak could be leaving too. Maybe Danny wanted to get Joe a raise and Bunba said no so Danny gave him an ultimatum that he would leave if Joe didn’t get promoted.

Pawlak I thought was most likely to get poached and is STILL LIKELY!!!!!! Even NDSU could pay him more to be a line coach than being the UND OC. Maybe Bubba told Danny that Pawlak jumped him for the next head coach?

Even if Pawlak becomes the OC I still see lots of top guys hitting the portal. Both QB’s…… gone. Top RB’s…… gone. Bo and Tai……. Gone. The offensive players didn’t commit because of Bubba…… The offense was the only bright spot for the future and now that’s ruined. Why would Danny want to come back after Bubba gets canned and the team cupboards are completely empty. Instead of just staying to keep your top guys. 

[Sioux>Bison]

12 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

We’ll see what happens now. No great external candidates coming in now at this point. Will be forced to hire internally, but no one here now can coach quarterbacks. Not getting my hopes up. 2024 has lame duck year written all over it. Gonna likely be awful. But at least Bubba will be gone more likely than not. 

Only way to get good candidates at this point is to can Bubba now and hire some one like Luke S. or someone else as HC. Don’t want Danny as the future HC we better find a better backup plan now because if we wait all the good players hit the portal this spring

[FSSD]

13 minutes ago, zonadub said:

Does SDSU have an heir-apparent if Gronowski goes to Northwestern as some of you have said? Maybe Kaminski follows Freund if there is not an already anointed new starter. Is Feeney more likely to stay as the Hawks’ 2024 starter?

The backup for SDSU has a higher upside than Gronowski..  He has a better arm and is a better athlete.

[siouxfan512]

1 hour ago, gundy1124 said:

Chaves is a step behind with football.  He doesn't fully understand the landscape.  It would be hard to mess up the hockey program because it's premier, so even Chaves can't mess that up too bad playing checkers.  College football today is chess however, and if you are not 2-3 steps ahead you are behind.  

Kind of crazy coming from EWU when they were doing so well. I remember seeing the hire thinking it would be a really great move for football.

[siouxfan512]

34 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

If he left to an FBS program, sure, I’d understand. But he is taking a lesser position (no longer play caller) at an in-conference rival institution; that is unreal, especially for someone like Danny who is (was) all about UND. Writing is on the wall. Bubba is cooked. He’s losing some of his best and most loyal assistants to in-conference rivals.

And lastly, but most importantly, this is also an indictment on the UND athletic department; they need to pay their assistant football coaches better or else absolute embarrassments like this will continue to happen and UND football will continue to be mediocre. 

Agreed, you would expect and FBS move and that would make even more sense, but money talks. That paired with working under someone who seems to have stalled out a few years back.

Its strange to move to a rival school for a slightly lesser role, but if they are going to pay you and you get to work on a championship staff, maybe its worth the move. We will know in a few years if he is still there, at a lower level school, out of coaching, or has moved up to bigger and better things.

[nodak651]

2 hours ago, Shawn-O said:

Kennedy tried that and got his walking papers basically.  

Thanks in part to some poor journalism.  He wasn't wrong.

[UND-FB-FAN]

11 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

If forcing Bubba out was gonna happen it would have happened when Danny gave his notice. I question Bubba's ego over what was best for the program. This will set UND football back at least five years. The big UND supporters that pushed the move to DI football  have really let the school down. Trying to run a DI program with DII funding. You could write a book on how The Ralph has caused the demise of sports at UND. They traded one hockey championship once a generation for perpetual mediocrity. With a heavy heart I am wondering how I am going to fill my weekends in the fall.

I slept on it, I’m still pissed. This hockey-only culture is absolutely atrocious for our University from a regional and national scope. Our football program - which includes assistant coaches salary pool - needs to be much better funded. This has been a topic of debate for years and nothing gets done. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

51 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

If forcing Bubba out was gonna happen it would have happened when Danny gave his notice. I question Bubba's ego over what was best for the program. This will set UND football back at least five years. The big UND supporters that pushed the move to DI football  have really let the school down. Trying to run a DI program with DII funding. You could write a book on how The Ralph has caused the demise of sports at UND. They traded one hockey championship once a generation for perpetual mediocrity. With a heavy heart I am wondering how I am going to fill my weekends in the fall.

In all honestly, it should have happened at the end of the 2023 season. Didn’t happen. Here we are. The major issues are funding and doing what’s right for the football program, which should be facilitating much needed transition. Bubba is now the complacent old guy in charge and there is no energy or novel ideas to come anytime soon with that. That means that the program is at current dead in the water. Change is needed. The next OC hire is a big one for 2024, but I would be very surprised if it is anyone other than an internal hire. Who would want to hitch their coaching career to a soon to be retiring (or terminated) Bubba Schweigert? After beating NDSU in 2023, everything went down hill; Bubba lost his team including now his associate head coach. Inexcusable, and there needs to be consequences.

[UND08]

8 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

In all honestly, it should have happened at the end of the 2023 season. Didn’t happen. Here we are. The major issues are funding and doing what’s right for the football program, which should be facilitating much needed transition. Bubba is now the complacent old guy in charge and there is no energy or novel ideas to come anytime soon with that. That means that the program is at current dead in the water. Change is needed. The next OC hire is a big one for 2024, but I would be very surprised if it is anyone other than an internal hire. Who would want to hitch their coaching career to a soon to be retiring (or terminated) Bubba Schweigert? 

They’ll probably promote Pawlak to OC, shuffle Sam King to QBs (his college position), hire a WR coach (might as well keep it in the family and call Hardin) and grab a GA for the OL…

Why?!?  Because it’s the UND way…that’s why!!!  Disgusting on all levels…no coach worth his salt is leaving to come here for $86k and a likely firing in a year…

[Parkers Pros]

SDSU is the playbook for FCS teams where football isn’t king. SDSU is, until the last 10 years or so, been a basketball centric university like UND is hockey.  They did all the right moves. Left D2 when SU left. Secured funds from donors and fund raised for probably the nicest overall facilities in the Missouri Valley. They slowly and methodically got better, and better, continuing to add resources in strength and conditioning, nutrition, better position coaches.  We didn’t move. Our facilities are getting better to be sure and like where they are going, but we are 10-15 years behind.  Geographically they are in a better place for families to come and watch their kids. Recruiting wise it’s close enough to a big town for kids to get on board with wanting to go to Brookings. You got a really want to want to play in Grand Forks. For us to win the way everyone wants us to win, we have to hands-down have the best of everything. And I don’t think the university, nor even the people on this board are willing to pony up and invest to do what it would take IMO. I think UND football will always have one hand behind its back unless the university and fan base/donors truly commit. And I think that’s why Danny left. He might be the only one truly playing chess.

[UND-FB-FAN]

6 minutes ago, Parkers Pros said:

SDSU is the playbook for FCS teams where football isn’t king. SDSU is, until the last 10 years or so, been a basketball centric university like UND is hockey.  They did all the right moves. Left D2 when SU left. Secured funds from donors and fund raised for probably the nicest overall facilities in the Missouri Valley. They slowly and methodically got better, and better, continuing to add resources in strength and conditioning, nutrition, better position coaches.  We didn’t move. Our facilities are getting better to be sure and like where they are going, but we are 10-15 years behind.  Geographically they are in a better place for families to come and watch their kids. Recruiting wise it’s close enough to a big town for kids to get on board with wanting to go to Brookings. You got a really want to want to play in Grand Forks. For us to win the way everyone wants us to win, we have to hands-down have the best of everything. And I don’t think the university, nor even the people on this board are willing to pony up and invest to do what it would take IMO. I think UND football will always have one hand behind its back unless the university and fan base/donors truly commit. And I think that’s why Danny left. He might be the only one truly playing chess.

There is no question that there needs to be more funding. It’ll take the right type of leadership to secure that, though. People won’t provide funds unless they know there is a well thought out plan in place. It needs to be deliberate and intentional, and directed specifically towards University of North Dakota football. Frustrations are present currently because one of the good guys who has invested many recent years into University of North Dakota football, and looked to be the heir apparent, has now left, signifying the need for more priority and funding once again. Unfortunately, the writing has been on the wall in regards to this particular situation for year, and nothing gets done.

[ND1]

Bubba with Tim on 1440 this morning… “this is a great day to be part of UND football, we have a chance to name a new leader of our offense.  My phone is blowing up with all the interest for other coaches”.

never mentioned Danny once, just said how much excitement there is around the program right now… what a shame 

[gfhockey]

Wow anyone hear bubba on 1440

 

sounded like he was on coke this morning 

 

hasn’t met with that team yet but plans to today

 

says everyone that moves on makes their own bed etc

 

tim and the he golf guy said it’s a good move up for Danny. That is where I almost puked. So when is sdsu a step up 

 

they compared it to harbaugh leaving Michigan for nfl 

[gfhockey]

3 minutes ago, ND1 said:

Bubba with Tim on 1440 this morning… “this is a great day to be part of UND football, we have a chance to name a new leader of our offense.  My phone is blowing up with all the interest for other coaches”.

never mentioned Danny once, just said how much excitement there is around the program right now… what a shame 

I heard it to. Sounded very weird. Something is off

[AJS]

46 minutes ago, Parkers Pros said:

SDSU is the playbook for FCS teams where football isn’t king. SDSU is, until the last 10 years or so, been a basketball centric university like UND is hockey.  They did all the right moves. Left D2 when SU left. Secured funds from donors and fund raised for probably the nicest overall facilities in the Missouri Valley. They slowly and methodically got better, and better, continuing to add resources in strength and conditioning, nutrition, better position coaches.  We didn’t move. Our facilities are getting better to be sure and like where they are going, but we are 10-15 years behind.  Geographically they are in a better place for families to come and watch their kids. Recruiting wise it’s close enough to a big town for kids to get on board with wanting to go to Brookings. You got a really want to want to play in Grand Forks. For us to win the way everyone wants us to win, we have to hands-down have the best of everything. And I don’t think the university, nor even the people on this board are willing to pony up and invest to do what it would take IMO. I think UND football will always have one hand behind its back unless the university and fan base/donors truly commit. And I think that’s why Danny left. He might be the only one truly playing chess.

That's a wild statement. Everything up to the geography of the matter, I do agree. 

[CMSioux]

14 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Wow anyone hear bubba on 1440

 

sounded like he was on coke this morning 

 

hasn’t met with that team yet but plans to today

 

says everyone that moves on makes their own bed etc

 

tim and the he golf guy said it’s a good move up for Danny. That is where I almost puked. So when is sdsu a step up 

 

they compared it to harbaugh leaving Michigan for nfl 

We do not know the financial package, but it has to be a move up. A couple of years at SDSU and his resume will be very attractive. 

[sioux24/7]

5 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

We do not know the financial package, but it has to be a move up. A couple of years at SDSU and his resume will be very attractive. 

It could very well be a “move up” but that just shows how awful of a position our athletics are in right now. In no way, should going from UND to SDSU for the same/lesser position be a “move up”. In today’s world, it may be but that’s ridiculous that it is the case. Things need to change and they need to change quickly. 

[Oxbow6]

21 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

I heard it to. Sounded very weird. Something is off

Coupled with his quote in the Herald article by TM Bubba seemed to have been caught off guard by this move.....but he seems to generally be caught off guard in most FB related situations over the past decade.

[Big Green]

14 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Wow anyone hear bubba on 1440

 

sounded like he was on coke this morning 

 

hasn’t met with that team yet but plans to today

 

says everyone that moves on makes their own bed etc

 

tim and the he golf guy said it’s a good move up for Danny. That is where I almost puked. So when is sdsu a step up 

 

they compared it to harbaugh leaving Michigan for nfl 

If Paul Ralston is calling this a step up, that should be all the needs to be said to make changes at UND.  It's one thing to be a farm system to FBS teams, but now we are losing coaches to rivals to lesser positions.

 

[gfhockey]

3 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

It could very well be a “move up” but that just shows how awful of a position our athletics are in right now. In no way, should going from UND to SDSU for the same/lesser position be a “move up”. In today’s world, it may be but that’s ridiculous that it is the case. Things need to change and they need to change quickly. 

agreed 100%
 

what a sad state of affairs at und football

[gfhockey]

I blame chaves for letting it get this far

[gfhockey]

3 minutes ago, Big Green said:

If Paul Ralston is calling this a step up, that should be all the needs to be said to make changes at UND.  It's one thing to be a farm system to FBS teams, but now we are losing coaches to rivals to lesser positions.

 

Itbwasnt ralston it was the guy from golf center on

[Oxbow6]

Just now, gfhockey said:

I blame chaves for letting it get this far

My boots on the ground just saw him at Walmart looking at oversized hoodies and chinos.

[wheelsup]

Does anyone have the average Coordinator salaries in the MVFC and Big Sky?  Just curious how we stack up overall / sounds like we stack up poorly but there has to be stats somewhere. 

Glass half empty.. This is really a gut punch.  I was looking forward to seeing if the offensive struggles this last year were Danny or Tommy (by the way the defense was the problem last year not the offense) but i was still very excited about seeing the offense with one of the new QB's running the show.  I hope the offense doesn't get gutted in the portal after spring ball.  We need to get new coaches in here ASAP to stop the bleeding and keep our offensive players.  Seems like there should be some real potential out there.. Jake Landry? Luke Schleusner? but I have low faith in our ability to attract one of those fellas.  So we will see what happens.

Glass half full.. if you think Danny has the future head coach potential at UND its great for him to go get experience in a winning organization rather than continue to promote the inbreeding within.  Also this could be an opportunity for an OC with some vision to come into UND and set himself up to be the next head coach.

Overall super disappointed.. no other way to take it.  The strength of our team was the Offense.. the Defense is a disaster and here we are with a gigantic question mark now on the offensive side of the ball. 

[gfhockey]

1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said:

My boots on the ground just saw him at Walmart looking at oversized hoodies and chinos.

At least he wasn’t sitting by himself by the men’s bathroom at the Betty!

 

I still don’t understand that. Lot of old money that is in that arena during games and he can chooses to sit by himself