2023 National Championship Game: Quinnipiac vs. Minnesota

[fightingsioux4life]

40 minutes ago, Kevin G said:

The two youngest teams in the nation made it to the Frozen Four. 

But when they ran into older, experienced teams, they got beat. Freshman are still Freshman (no matter how talented they are) and they will occasionally struggle against older, more experienced players.

[The Sicatoka]

1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i think he meant michigan and minnesota (frozen four)..not championship game

Ah, now I understand ... yet the old upperclassmen won.

[burd]

1 hour ago, siouxkid12 said:

So you're saying Motzko shouldn't have lost this game? Motzko can only coach so much and then his players have to execute and the players couldn't clearly execute once Pecknolds 1-1-3 neutral zone forecheck settled in (2nd period). Quinnipiac was relentless after the first period (which was obviously their worst). They had more shots on net and limited Minnesota's and they also won the faceoff battle (not a single Minnesota player was in double digit wins in the circle).

Also, lets look at the stats and give credit to Quinnipiac before criticizing Minnesota. Yes, Minnesota was ranked higher and had more recognition than Quinnipiac throughout the season but dive into the stats and you will see that Quinnipiac was a much better team overall. 

Faceoff win % - Quinnipiac #2 Minnesota #15

PK % - Quinnipiac #4 Minnesota #12

PP % - Quinnipiac #15 Minnesota #4

Scoring Defense - Quinnipiac #1 Minnesota #6

Scoring Margin - Quinnipiac #1 Minnesota #2

Scoring Offense - Quinnipiac #3 Minnesota #2 (they are awfully close in this category though)

Win % - Quinnipiac #1 Minnesota #3

Goalies - Quinnipiac (Perets) Winning %, GAA, Save % - #1/#2 in all those categories Minnesota (Close) #3/#4 in all those categories.

 

This loss isn't on Motzko whatsoever, this was just a very good Bobcats team.

That game was proof that Grindahs > Chippahs.

[burd]

2 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Having a successful season does not make it a success. That team had one real goal, and they didn't reach it.

_______ had a successful season, but it was not a success?

Now you're messing with us Olds, stoney.  

[The Sicatoka]

20 minutes ago, burd said:

That game was proof that Grindahs > Chippahs.

You just had to ... 

[The Sicatoka]

9 minutes ago, burd said:

_______ had a successful season, but it was not a success?

Now you're messing with us Olds, stoney.  

[Irish]

43 minutes ago, burd said:

That game was proof that Grindahs > Chippahs.

High end extremely disciplined Grindahs who played in a system that was a perfect fit for them and kept mistakes to a minimum.   

[siouxkid12]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

No disrespect to Quinnipiac; I picked them to win the tournament. But for some reason, the Goofs got conservative after getting a two-goal lead and it backfired big time. Prevent defense prevents you from winning. It is a fact of life in the NFL and it is also a fact of life in this sport.

Minnesota got conservative or the players for Quinnipiac shut them down? As much as you guys are saying "No disrespect to Quinnipiac" you really are disrespecting them. You are basically saying that the Gophers shouldn't have lost when they were up by two goals and Quinnipiac should've packed it in. I don't care what anyone says about Quinnipiac's strength of schedule or anything, they are a great team (stats back it up) and they consistently played well all year.

[The Sicatoka]

2 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

... the Gophers shouldn't have lost when they were up by two goals and Quinnipiac should've packed it in. 

When the Q went down 2, I wrote them off. I posted "Game". 

As I've said, I was wrong.
I underestimated Q.
I forgot this game: On the road, harsh environment, give up 2 to go down one ... five unanswered. 

[fightingsioux4life]

[The Sicatoka]

Watched it again ...

The Q play in OT was magnificent, but would've been easily prevented if MN4 (LD) had held the blue instead of moving forward and outward opening up a passing lane. I still don't understand what he saw that he moved up. It was like he was playing "1-3-1 hold the red".

That move started the dominos: MN2 (RD) had to come across and chase; MN24 had been chasing, then realized he had to cover the far man but realized it late and was out of position. 

I don't understand MN4's play. 

[The Sicatoka]

A non-hockey observation:

Pecknold may have what looks like a bowl haircut, but he outkicked his coverage when it comes to spouse. 

[stoneySIOUX]

2 hours ago, burd said:

_______ had a successful season, but it was not a success?

Now you're messing with us Olds, stoney.  

HA! Minnesota. Meaning they were stacked and with how good they were, they had one goal and that was to win the title. They had a successful season by all measures, but it wasn't a success. Following? 

[SJHovey]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Watched it again ...

The Q play in OT was magnificent, but would've been easily prevented if MN4 (LD) had held the blue instead of moving forward and outward opening up a passing lane. I still don't understand what he saw that he moved up. It was like he was playing "1-3-1 hold the red".

That move started the dominos: MN2 (RD) had to come across and chase; MN24 had been chasing, then realized he had to cover the far man but realized it late and was out of position. 

I don't understand MN4's play. 

I don't necessarily fault the LD.  QU's right defenseman got the puck following the faceoff win, and drifted right to the boards under pressure from MN's left wing.  The QU right wing, by design of the play, went to the right boards, drawing a pinch up by MN's LD.  But that was the play for the MN LD.  He's there to pinch off a pass up the boards to the QU right wing.

The problem for MN was Nelson, in the center position.  Not only did he lose the draw, but he then lost his man the (QU center) who proceeded up the left wing and was there for the two on one pass.  If Nelson had stuck with him after losing the draw, there is no open player for QU to pass it to on the two on one.

[petey23]

3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Ah, now I understand ... yet the old upperclassmen won.

[Big A HG]

The problem with the "old upperclassman" team is that you have to make your runs count every few years when you have 'em.  It'd difficult to have an old team every year.

[Wilbur]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Watched it again ...

The Q play in OT was magnificent, but would've been easily prevented if MN4 (LD) had held the blue instead of moving forward and outward opening up a passing lane. I still don't understand what he saw that he moved up. It was like he was playing "1-3-1 hold the red".

That move started the dominos: MN2 (RD) had to come across and chase; MN24 had been chasing, then realized he had to cover the far man but realized it late and was out of position. 

I don't understand MN4's play. 

He's been told 100 times as a d man since youth hockey to play inside the dots so he figured in OT he would test the outside the dots theory.  

[burd]

1 hour ago, stoneySIOUX said:

HA! Minnesota. Meaning they were stacked and with how good they were, they had one goal and that was to win the title. They had a successful season by all measures, but it wasn't a success. Following? 

Irish gangster Doyle Lonnegan's line from The Sting:   "Ya Folla?"

[Kevin G]

23 minutes ago, burd said:

Irish gangster Doyle Lonnegan's line from The Sting:   "Ya Folla?"

That is an inner-circle HOF movie, with some classic music too. (Every second- or third-year piano student has played the theme to The Sting.)

[108498]

When was the last time Denver was not ranked in final poll? How are they not among leaders for the current streak of being ranked?

[siouxforce19]

19 minutes ago, 108498 said:

When was the last time Denver was not ranked in final poll? How are they not among leaders for the current streak of being ranked?

2021. Denver didn’t make the tournament that year. 

[108498]

They have been so good over the years it is hard to imagine them not being ranked. 

[The Sicatoka]

2 hours ago, SJHovey said:

He's there to pinch off a pass up the boards to the QU right wing.

Not at the cost of giving up a ‘seam up the dots’ pass to a breaking forward. If he was on the dots line that play goes D to D and the game goes more than ten seconds.

[cowboys5xsbs]

[cowboys5xsbs]

Big ratings glad to see college hockey thriving