Hans8891 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Ouch. Scored 18 in the first quarter against the bison but gave up 34. At that pace, we will give up 135 for the game… Quote
UND1983 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Let’s complain about officiating not our defense 2 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Let’s complain about officiating not our defense IALTO 1 Quote
Kab Posted February 24 Posted February 24 When will coaches start teaching -layers not to leave the person they are guarding how many open 3 pointers have ndsu shot and made with no defender in the same neighborhood Quote
Kab Posted February 24 Posted February 24 15 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Let’s complain about officiating not our defense What defense , not part of the UND game plan Quote
Hans8891 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Same lack of any team d whatsoever. No talk on switches and picks and someone is wide open. Hence 56 for the bison at half. On the brighter side, we have scored on the bison putting up 43 ourselves. Last game at home we didn’t break 20 until 12 seconds left in the half and had 18 turnovers at that point so this is a definite improvement for what that is worth. Quote
Hans8891 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 We are making it respectable. Kacie is on fire scoring. If we could stop anyone on the drive we might make a run at this yet…. Either give up the layup - or double and leave someone wide open for an easy look. Had it down to 10 but can’t close the gap further. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Having watched the 1990's teams at the old Hyslop, it is truly sad to see what this program has devolved into. #butparity 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Just now, gfhockey said: Will chaves have the balls? Chaves is too busy looking for a seat close to the restrooms. Quote
Hans8891 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Congrats to Kacie. Hanging 40 on your arch rival is a nice way to finish out her final series with the bison. Quote
DL Sioux Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, gfhockey said: Where the mal lovers st Did Mal shut you down one time? Seems to be lots of hate here! Quote
gfhockey Posted February 25 Posted February 25 5 minutes ago, DL Sioux said: Did Mal shut you down one time? Seems to be lots of hate here! Just a lot of n people on here saying mal better coach then clown collins 1 Quote
F'n Hawks Posted February 25 Posted February 25 21 minutes ago, DL Sioux said: Did Mal shut you down one time? Seems to be lots of hate here! Do you think she is doing a good job? Quote
DL Sioux Posted February 25 Posted February 25 5 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said: Do you think she is doing a good job? I think this is year 3/4 and a critical point. Seems to be some young talent and decent recruits. Tough world with the transfer portal now. I’m not ready to say she’s doing a great job but the next few years will be telling. Quote
ND-fan Posted February 25 Posted February 25 NDSU has reached the level of South Dakota State, and we are now just above the bottom of the league group. The funny part of today's game is that it was one of our better games offensively especially with Kacie's performance. Also think we got to see that Ibrahim is going to become good player for us on inside she is long and moves well. She fits what teams are looking for now in four and five positions. Pemberton is also going to be good player and she is tall enough to play up to four spot but she fits 2 or 3 spots. Hurst can become star, but she is going to need to work on her defense and quickness because if she can't becomes too much of liability when she on the court. I think Horne has future on team but needs off season on working on different fundamentals and developing her talents to play at division I level. Aumer is type player all teams need leader in showing hustle and putting it all out on the floor. The rest of team I don't know how they are going perform and if another year development could change our perceptions of them as players all of them are still young players. The new recruits coming look like have potential but i have my doubts if they can play and make immediate impact right away in their freshman season. The last recruits we had like that was Freije and Klabo. If we do end up with open roster spots, I sure would like us to look to transfer portal see if we could find couple players that could give us some more length and could play immediately and let this young group learn and develop some more. Quote
gfhockey Posted February 25 Posted February 25 5 minutes ago, DL Sioux said: I think this is year 3/4 and a critical point. Seems to be some young talent and decent recruits. Tough world with the transfer portal now. I’m not ready to say she’s doing a great job but the next few years will be telling. What year is Jory in? 2 Quote
nd1sufan Posted February 25 Posted February 25 26 minutes ago, gfhockey said: What year is Jory in? this is Collins 5th year. The cupboard was bare when he arrived. Quote
petey23 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 14 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: this is Collins 5th year. The cupboard was bare when he arrived. The cupboard was torn off the wall when he arrived. He had to rebuild the cupboard and then stock it. Everyone likes to mention how young UND is....NDSU has 2 seniors who I believe could both play another year(Covid), 1 junior, 2 sophomores, and 6 freshmen who all play and contribute. 2 Quote
Hans8891 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Pemberton is the real deal. She will only get better. Schiller from Red River may be an immediate impact player next year. Ibriaham showed some real improvement. Hurst has real offensive skills but she is going to have to decide she wants to play defense. Her matador style defense will continue to put her on the bench with foul trouble, not to mention giving up way too many easy buckets. Beal is very athletic if we can figure out how to use her. She can raise havoc on defense with her length and speed. Davis is just too small and absolutely not a shooter. Aumer seems okay, but we really need to go find more length and speed, plus add a couple of good outside shooters, if we want to take the next step. Our outside shooting has been atrocious for years. On the other hand, shooting may improve if we find an offense that gets us better looks. Before we can take the next step, however, it is more than just the talent. Mal has to figure out how to get her players to play team offense and team defense. Our offense is almost entirely whatever Kacie and Hurst can create. There is no movement whatsoever. The lack of movement leads to a ridiculous number of turnovers. On Defense, nobody seems to know where to be. We don’t cut off drives and when we do help out after a defender gets beat, there is no rotation leaving wide open shooters- i.e. giving up 100 plus way too many times. Once may be a fluke. Giving up more than 100 points that many times is a systemic problem. Breaking a press has to improve. What I wouldn’t give to have Roebuck back to mentor Mallory for a few years. If Mallory is going to find success, she is going to have to figure out how to make a team a team. So far, that is just not happening. 1 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Kacie is a scorer. NDSU made 15 3s. They have shooters. Quote
ND-fan Posted February 25 Posted February 25 16 hours ago, Hans8891 said: Pemberton is the real deal. She will only get better. Schiller from Red River may be an immediate impact player next year. Ibriaham showed some real improvement. Hurst has real offensive skills but she is going to have to decide she wants to play defense. Her matador style defense will continue to put her on the bench with foul trouble, not to mention giving up way too many easy buckets. Beal is very athletic if we can figure out how to use her. She can raise havoc on defense with her length and speed. Davis is just too small and absolutely not a shooter. Aumer seems okay, but we really need to go find more length and speed, plus add a couple of good outside shooters, if we want to take the next step. Our outside shooting has been atrocious for years. On the other hand, shooting may improve if we find an offense that gets us better looks. Before we can take the next step, however, it is more than just the talent. Mal has to figure out how to get her players to play team offense and team defense. Our offense is almost entirely whatever Kacie and Hurst can create. There is no movement whatsoever. The lack of movement leads to a ridiculous number of turnovers. On Defense, nobody seems to know where to be. We don’t cut off drives and when we do help out after a defender gets beat, there is no rotation leaving wide open shooters- i.e. giving up 100 plus way too many times. Once may be a fluke. Giving up more than 100 points that many times is a systemic problem. Breaking a press has to improve. What I wouldn’t give to have Roebuck back to mentor Mallory for a few years. If Mallory is going to find success, she is going to have to figure out how to make a team a team. So far, that is just not happening. I agree with you 100% on your comments about the team. I thought getting Bledsoe and one of the other coaches new to the program would have brought about some improvement in the offense of the team. Mallory offense is pushing the ball up creating something off the push but if other teams get back make them go to set offense, we then seem to have no offense to create good shot either inside or outside. I believe that is why Kacie had so many passing turnovers this year because of our lack of movement in our offense and not having offense they can do some reversals to get some openings in the defense. Then playing defense has not been there but with Hurst not playing defense when she is out there to be fair to some of the other players it's like playing 5 on 4 for defense. Also, when you play this many players as Mallory have you don't get players getting used to each other and playing as team. It's funny two top teams in Summit both have lost players this season to injury or leaving but play best team basketball the same with our men's team they have pretty much settled into 7-man rotation with occasional 8 man to fill in if one guard positions get into foul trouble and then again if Bigs get into foul trouble. I believe next year is critical for Mallory. She is going to have to show significant improvement in the program to where we are closing the gap with top teams of the Summit because now these are her players entering her fourth season. The end of next season i believe she will only have one year left on her contract, so AD is going to have decide what to do with her and what is best for the program. Quote
UND1983 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Like I said many times - recruit better, longer players and all these concerns go away. Wrong body types for this level Quote
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