2023-24 University of North Dakota Hockey Season

[ND_Texan]

20 hours ago, TwamleyShuffle said:

Idk what you mean by we’d breeze through rounds one and two. Maybe round one but the NCAAs is no easy tourney

Maybe I’m being overly optimistic to counteract all the bed wetters on this board. 

[thUNDer]

1 hour ago, ND_Texan said:

Maybe I’m being overly optimistic to counteract all the bed wetters on this board. 

So you must be a couch surfer? Asking for a friend 

[ND_Texan]

52 minutes ago, thUNDer said:

So you must be a couch surfer? Asking for a friend 

I don’t even know what that means. 

[Sioux>Bison]

On 2/21/2024 at 3:52 PM, gfhockey said:

Listen we can agree to disagree

 

I want nattys

 

you guys want just wins in regular season

 

nsttys are remmebered

 

banners

 

reunion trams

 

no one gunna remember us sweeping Denver but schlossman next year in the gamer 

Meh titles are overrated, remember all those winning seasons? Way over shadow the couple titles. Good>Best

[Esoteric]

9 hours ago, thUNDer said:

Oh & such wisdom was just added to the list. Go Sioux tonight!

Go Sioux - Two Big Wins this weekend.

[scpa0305]

20 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

I don't bring it up because I believe it. I think it's hogwash. I bring it up ALL THE TIME because @scpa0305 keeps insisting that the B1G and the big media market schools out east are going to rule the College Hockey world and that UND and other similar programs will have to settle for "backfilling with over-agers" (that's a direct quote from sometime last season, I am not making it up). Go tell @scpa0305 that he is wrong, because I think he is too. I keep bringing it up because that erroneous notion needs to be challenged whenever and wherever it is propagated.

Anyway, you make good points. I am enjoying this season, especially after the past few seasons, which were not as much fun to watch. @krustyklown is right, I will not bring up the topic of championships as long as UND is alive in the postseason.

Haha you’ve lumped me in the wrong crowd my friend. Do guys do this? Did you go through middle school?

Anyways, I never said the big10/blue blood HE schools would rule college hockey, I said they would dominate blue chip recruiting. And if we’re not already there…it’s pretty close. That doesn’t mean we won’t be good it just means we need to recruit better/smarter. 

[scpa0305]

20 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Overall, I do apologize for making this all about you because it's certainly not. I think what @scpa0305 has always discussed, from my understanding, is that UND will lose out on the market share with how college hockey is going. I can't disagree with that. When I hear "backfilling with over-agers" I kind of think that's a lot what we did this year with Britt, Pehrson, Pyke, Johannes, etc. (not shots at them.... they are all very, very good hockey players). UND still has the ability to recruit and that hasn't changed. 

I think the bolded part is what bothers me the most. This team didn't get dropped from the NCAA tournament by losing two games to CC last week. We're so incredibly over reactive as a fanbase. I understand "fan" is short for fanatic, but my goodness 

You are correct btw. 

[scpa0305]

20 hours ago, gfhockey said:

Is the season considered a success if we sre one and done in the tourney?

 

I bet you ask every single playa and they’ll say no

Tough question. To me this team looks pretty dang good. They have the makings of being a super tough out come tourney time.

It really depends who we play and how we play. But the answer will almost always land on no, it wouldn’t be considered a success. There are just so many good teams out there, to win the natty you need a ton of luck or a ridiculously stacked/old team.

[Walsh Hall]

1 hour ago, scpa0305 said:

 There are just so many good teams out there, to win the natty you need a ton of luck or a ridiculously stacked/old team.

Having a stacked team guarantees it, like 1997 Michigan, 2010 UND, etc… 

I’d love to know who would have won championships over the last 40 years if there were 5 game series instead of one and done.  My guess is we’d have picked up 2-4 others (including the lost year) and lost 1 or 2 as well.

Hockey has, statically, the largest variance in actual result versus implied result of the major sports (tennis is last).  You have to be good, but luck has to be on your side to win.

 

[jk]

Oh my goodness, you've hit upon one of my main Hak observations.  He built teams to win playoff series.  That physical defense would have been hard to handle for more than a game.

[TwamleyShuffle]

28 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said:

Having a stacked team guarantees it, like 1997 Michigan, 2010 UND, etc… 

I’d love to know who would have won championships over the last 40 years if there were 5 game series instead of one and done.  My guess is we’d have picked up 2-4 others (including the lost year) and lost 1 or 2 as well.

Hockey has, statically, the largest variance in actual result versus implied result of the major sports (tennis is last).  You have to be good, but luck has to be on your side to win.

 

I believe I read somewhere that hockey is the sport in which luck plays the biggest role. Not to say skill isn't important, but relative to others sports luck plays a bigger role in hockey compared to other sports

[nodakvindy]

20 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Northern Michigan and Lake Superior State University have been irrelevant for three decades. They used to be national powers. It can happen to anyone. Even UND.

Northern won a single national title featuring and has 8 total NCAA tournament appearances. National power is a huge stretch.  Lake State had a nice stretch under Jackson amidst a lot of whispers of recruiting " irregularities " and then disappeared from relevance. UND is in no way similar to either. 

[90siouxfan]

2 hours ago, TwamleyShuffle said:

I believe I read somewhere that hockey is the sport in which luck plays the biggest role. Not to say skill isn't important, but relative to others sports luck plays a bigger role in hockey compared to other sports

True, but I recall someone's quip about "the harder I work, the luckier I get..."

[scpa0305]

4 hours ago, Walsh Hall said:

Having a stacked team guarantees it, like 1997 Michigan, 2010 UND, etc… 

I’d love to know who would have won championships over the last 40 years if there were 5 game series instead of one and done.  My guess is we’d have picked up 2-4 others (including the lost year) and lost 1 or 2 as well.

Hockey has, statically, the largest variance in actual result versus implied result of the major sports (tennis is last).  You have to be good, but luck has to be on your side to win.

 

You are correct, even a stacked team doesn’t guarantee it…but if you don’t need a ton of luck, you better be stacked. Btw i never said a stacked team guarantees anything but a fun team to watch.

[tnt]

The fact Duluth hasn’t won a league championship in over 30 years, but has 3 NCAA titles shows that getting on a four game winning streak by having a hot goaltender and getting a few bounces can go a long ways in winning it all.  So yeah, if there were series, that might be a lot different, but that is what really makes the basketball and hockey tournaments so unpredictable, because you always have the Cinderella story.

[fightingsioux4life]

4 hours ago, TwamleyShuffle said:

I believe I read somewhere that hockey is the sport in which luck plays the biggest role. Not to say skill isn't important, but relative to others sports luck plays a bigger role in hockey compared to other sports

But according to Dave Starman, the team with the most talent wins 95% of the time. Oops, I'm not supposed to talk like that here. 

[fightingsioux4life]

Honestly, there is no other fan base in collegiate sports that bitches about single elimination tournament formats and bad luck more than ours. That used to be a trademark of the Gopher fan base and we used to call them out on it. I guess if you live long enough, you'll see all sorts of things. 

[Goon]

6 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Honestly, there is no other fan base in collegiate sports that bitches about single elimination tournament formats and bad luck more than ours. That used to be a trademark of the Gopher fan base and we used to call them out on it. I guess if you live long enough, you'll see all sorts of things. 

Hey guys, it's game day!

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, Goon said:

Hey guys, it's game day!

Yes it is. Time for another edition of TCoS! 

[Walsh Hall]

28 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Honestly, there is no other fan base in collegiate sports that bitches about single elimination tournament formats and bad luck more than ours. That used to be a trademark of the Gopher fan base and we used to call them out on it. I guess if you live long enough, you'll see all sorts of things. 

I don’t think anyone is bitching about it, just stating the statistical fact that in a 4 game one and done system, with all competent teams, the odds of the “best” team winning is  quite small.

I’m fine with the current system, but don’t lose all sense of reason when the season ends without a championship in a coin-flip game.

[TwamleyShuffle]

Jackson Blake is leading the country in points excluding players from Boston area schools

[brianvf]

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The Fighting Hawks can clinch home ice for the NCHC quarterfinals with one point next weekend against Western Michigan. There's even an outside chance UND could win its fourth Penrose Cup in five years on Saturday night if it sweeps the Broncos and Denver sweeps St. Cloud State.

That'd be asking a lot for us to sweep the Broncos and DU to sweep SCSU...but that'd be great to have the Penrose locked up at home on Saturday night.
Although that wouldn't leave much to play for the following weekend at UNO.

[108498]

I do not understand how UND has been swept this year by CC. UND has some good wins and yet has been easily handled by CC. They are the last team UND wants to play in the postseason. 

[1972]

When the NCHC releases its top 5 plays of the week....they may have to add a few...there was 5 for UND alone this weekend.   Pretty sure Blake has the forward of the week, and Ludwig may be goaltender of the week....that was a very complete weekend of hockey for the boys....keep it rolling!

[Benny Baker]

On 2/23/2024 at 8:47 AM, Goon said:

Cooper Moore said that I've heard it from a couple of different people, but Schloss had it in his Twitter feed last spring. 

“It’s too much pressure playing for this team that can’t win an NCAA tournament game, if we even make it, so I’ll just transfer to the reigning national champions.”

Weird.