F'n Hawks Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Both games are on the offensive coordinator. Couldn’t keep his dick in his pants in either game. Agreed that Danny was bad both games. The defense has to be better against Sac St though. It’s not like the defense was on the field the majority of the game and didn’t get any rest. 2 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said: Agreed that Danny was bad both games. The defense has to be better against Sac St though. It’s not like the defense was on the field the majority of the game and didn’t get any rest. Defense had bad games (Sac State, Indiana State) and offense had bad games (South Dakota, UNI). Dare I say it, is there an “overall” problem? Who is the “overall” leader of this team? 1 Quote
nodak651 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: For some reason, against USD, and then again inexplicably against Sac, Danny turned down the free meal. If you can take six yards up the A gap you take it. Every. Time. I don't understand why he stuck to the ground vs NDSU but not in those games. Truly baffling, considering how well running the ball worked, and the final result.... Why fix what isn't broken? Did they only run the ball vs NDSU because it was an ego thing? I don't get it... they treated that game differently it seems. Quote
Midwestern Hawk Posted November 27, 2023 Author Posted November 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Both games are on the offensive coordinator. Couldn’t keep his dick in his pants in either game. Agreed. There is a track record over the last few years of bad situational and complimentary football. 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, nodak651 said: ... it was an ego thing? The OC is a former high-efficiency passing QB. Quote
UND1983 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Midwestern Hawk said: We could have beaten Sac State and USD with the exact same talent We lost due to poor coaching. Agree to disagree Quote
Midwestern Hawk Posted November 27, 2023 Author Posted November 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Agree to disagree Question to ponder on your disagreement on the supremacy of coaching in football... If last February 1st Bubba and staff(all of it including medical, strength, training and support) would have been traded for SDSU staff, what do you think the outcome of the season would be as of today? Would SDSU be undefeated in FCS and rolling to another title and would UND be 7-5 and thinking about next season? I know what my answer would be... Quote
UND1983 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: Question to ponder on your disagreement on the supremacy of coaching in football... If last February 1st Bubba and staff(all of it including medical, strength, training and support) would have been traded for SDSU staff, what do you think the outcome of the season would be as of today? Would SDSU be undefeated in FCS and rolling to another title and would UND be 7-5 and thinking about next season? I know what my answer would be... Settle down big boy. Did I say our coaching is supreme? All I said is discounting how average our players really are is not smart. Quote
F'n Hawks Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 48 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Defense had bad games (Sac State, Indiana State) and offense had bad games (South Dakota, UNI). Dare I say it, is there an “overall” problem? Who is the “overall” leader of this team? Agreed. Gonna be the same !@#$ next year. Quote
MoSiouxFan Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said: We could have beaten Sac State and USD with the exact same talent We lost due to poor coaching. Poor coaching didn't drop the potential interception or rough the opposing QB in the end zone on 3rd and, what, 15 or more, either of which could have/probably would have turned that game around. 1 Quote
Midwestern Hawk Posted November 27, 2023 Author Posted November 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Settle down big boy. Did I say our coaching is supreme? All I said is discounting how average our players really are is not smart. Nobody in FCS has enough talent on their roster for the current UND coaching staff to win a national title. The proof is available to all over the last decade and I would say especially since 2018. How many games has UND had major coaching errors? Even Saturday, did they have no idea that Sac St Qb was elusive? No plan b? No plan C? Did the OC not have a game plan to slow down the game if we could not stop the QB? Football isn't rocket science. If we run the ball last Saturday on every play in the second half, I personally think UND wins. That's it. Same players, same setting, same opponent. If you disagree look at some of our possessions in the second half, after the D had come to life. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said: Agreed. Gonna be the same !@#$ next year. 6 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: Day by Day Apathy well settled in at this point. It’s been “prove it” time for UND football for a while as far as I’m concerned, and we continue to get 7-4 with occasional 5-6 and 3-8 sprinkled in. I think this is what UND wants … the followers to be slowly but surely conditioned to accept this mediocre level of production and expectation. For Bubba and his staff, it means a lifetime contract. 3 Quote
F'n Hawks Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Apathy well settled in at this point. It’s been “prove it” time for UND football for a while as far as I’m concerned, and we continue to get 7-4 with occasional 5-6 and 3-8 sprinkled in. I think this is what UND wants … the followers to be slowly but surely conditioned to accept this level of production and expectation I am not ok with where this program is at and I have higher expectations. I would assume there is a decent amount on this board that think this as well, the problem is that we are the diehards and represent a small majority of the fan base. 2 Quote
Popular Post Midwestern Hawk Posted November 27, 2023 Author Popular Post Posted November 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, MoSiouxFan said: Poor coaching didn't drop the potential interception or rough the opposing QB in the end zone on 3rd and, what, 15 or more, either of which could have/probably would have turned that game around. The Offensive sequence at end of 3rd qtr and start of the 4th was the game. That was our chance. Ball at mid field at end of qtr after a first down on 3 straight runs. Next 3 plays are two sacks and an incomplete pass. We take the lead on that drive and the game is ours. No idea why Danny called a pass at that moment other than he probably had too much time to think about the call between quarters. 2 4 Quote
Irish Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 A little bit chicken/egg argument as to if it's coaching or talent - a bit of both with the understanding that coaches recruit talent. But we sure aren't getting the best out of the talent we have. After the SU game I thought wow - Bubba finally turned the corner. Wrong. The regression from that game was stunning. What kind of staff can't build off of that victory? Looking back the Dancing Bubba video almost seems like a cruel joke. 3 Quote
MoSiouxFan Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 39 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: The Offensive sequence at end of 3rd qtr and start of the 4th was the game. That was our chance. Ball at mid field at end of qtr after a first down on 3 straight runs. Next 3 plays are two sacks and an incomplete pass. We take the lead on that drive and the game is ours. No idea why Danny called a pass at that moment other than he probably had too much time to think about the call between quarters. Probably to keep the defense "honest," but when you run the ball like we do, in that situation you probably continue running it until you're forced to pass. A number of factors that, in hindsight, could have/probably would have turned the game around. 1 Quote
Dustin Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: I think this is what UND wants … the followers to be slowly but surely conditioned to accept this mediocre level of production and expectation. For Bubba and his staff, it means a lifetime contract. I definitely don't agree that's what UND nor its staff want. But wanting something (a championship) and being capable of getting it are not the same. Bubba did what he could, now he needs to get out of the way and let a new guy try his hand. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dustin said: I definitely don't agree that's what UND nor its staff want. But wanting something (a championship) and being capable of getting it are not the same. Bubba did what he could, now he needs to get out of the way and let a new guy try his hand. Agree with the bolded part 100%. No buyout this year, but please, no more freaking extensions. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, Irish said: The regression from that game was stunning. What kind of staff can't build off of that victory? It's like Bubba exhaled after a decade of holding his breath. 2 Quote
nodak651 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: The OC is a former high-efficiency passing QB. I get that. Meant that the Bison are known for killing teams with the run game in the 4th quarter. Defenses can't stop it even when they know it's coming. Beat them at their own game. Why else call plays differently the rest of the season? Quote
Dustin Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, fightingsioux4life said: No buyout this year I've been an advocate for Bubba to retire. In that scenario, I've been assuming he would be due no buyout of his contract. Does anyone know if that is indeed correct? Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 16 hours ago, SuhakiYeahYeah said: Wesley Eliodor just deleted all his nodak posts on Instagram and is posting pics of himself when he played for south dakota on his story remember when tommy said wes was a "good wr".....wes probably remembered that when he beat his guy and tommy missed him by 10 yds against sac state in the end zone 2 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 15 hours ago, gfhockey said: I wonder how they sold him walter payton award watch list...................... Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dustin said: I've been an advocate for Bubba to retire. In that scenario, I've been assuming he would be due no buyout of his contract. Does anyone know if that is indeed correct? Did someone say "contract"? https://www.scribd.com/document/430465785/Bubba-Schweigert-contract Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Midwestern Hawk said: The Offensive sequence at end of 3rd qtr and start of the 4th was the game. That was our chance. Ball at mid field at end of qtr after a first down on 3 straight runs. Next 3 plays are two sacks and an incomplete pass. We take the lead on that drive and the game is ours. No idea why Danny called a pass at that moment other than he probably had too much time to think about the call between quarters. "The Passes" 1 Quote
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