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[LoyalSioux]

On 11/30/2019 at 8:06 PM, geaux_sioux said:

“Well that was embarrassing. Where does the program currently sit?

1. Our WR group is too slow/white. It just is what it is. Our WR does not look D1. Tall slow white boys can ball but if that’s all you have it makes it really hard to get separation against even an average secondary.”

This has got to be the dumbest comment ever on this site. If every position played to the same level as the WR group this year, we’d have 1 loss.  Not only is it dumb, it’s racist. Its 2019. Wow...go analyze another team geaux-dummy.

On 11/30/2019 at 8:06 PM, geaux_sioux said:

 

 

[geaux_sioux]

28 minutes ago, LoyalSioux said:

This has got to be the dumbest comment ever on this site. If every position played to the same level as the WR group this year, we’d have 1 loss.  Not only is it dumb, it’s racist. Its 2019. Wow...go analyze another team geaux-dummy.

 

Good one. Can’t handle the truth?

[The Fan]

On 11/30/2019 at 8:06 PM, geaux_sioux said:

Well that was embarrassing. Where does the program currently sit?

1. Our WR group is too slow/white. It just is what it is. Our WR does not look D1. Tall slow white boys can ball but if that’s all you have it makes it really hard to get separation against even an average secondary.

I am an uncle to Noah Wanzek, you know, one of the big slow “White” WR’s, who can’t separate (not sure how he caught 74 balls this year) but who gave it his all for 4 years and who basically played with one arm Saturday. He found out today he played with a separated shoulder and fractured collarbone.  Might had something to do with his separation problem. You know, he’s the one who doesn’t have any athleticism, never mind his 22’  long jump & 43’ triple jump in HS and being named a ND Mr. basketball finalist.  Oh yea, he is also one of the WR who is not a D1 talent, according to this blog, yet he’s ranked high in UND’s all time WR record books. Heck, he even beat Kenny Gollady’s season receptions record. I’ve always suspected a subtle hint of racial profiling on this blog, not being black, you know he can’t be that good! Now, it being a race problem actually has been said here by some.  Disgusting!  We have guys on the team with a ton of speed, but few catches. Speed is obviously helpful but it takes more than just speed to be a good wide receiver. 
I never followed this blog until Noah went to UND and will probably not follow it anymore.  But a word of advice, parents and other family members can read too!  Good luck to the Hawks into the future!

[SlowHand]

16 minutes ago, The Fan said:

I am an uncle to Noah Wanzek, you know, one of the big slow “White” WR’s, who can’t separate (not sure how he caught 74 balls this year) but who gave it his all for 4 years and who basically played with one arm Saturday. He found out today he played with a separated shoulder and fractured collarbone.  Might had something to do with his separation problem. You know, he’s the one who doesn’t have any athleticism, never mind his 22’  long jump & 43’ triple jump in HS and being named a ND Mr. basketball finalist.  Oh yea, he is also one of the WR who is not a D1 talent, according to this blog, yet he’s ranked high in UND’s all time WR record books. Heck, he even beat Kenny Gollady’s season receptions record. I’ve always suspected a subtle hint of racial profiling on this blog, not being black, you know he can’t be that good! Now, it being a race problem actually has been said here by some.  Disgusting!  We have guys on the team with a ton of speed, but few catches. Speed is obviously helpful but it takes more than just speed to be a good wide receiver. 
I never followed this blog until Noah went to UND and will probably not follow it anymore.  But a word of advice, parents and other family members can read too!  Good luck to the Hawks into the future!

My question is:  Why was this not discovered prior to playing?  Did he hide his injury or did the coaching staff not notice?

As for the separated shoulder, no way does anyone play with that. Sorry but I call BS.

Either answer will be a bit concerning. 

[CMSioux]

5 hours ago, SlowHand said:

My question is:  Why was this not discovered prior to playing?  Did he hide his injury or did the coaching staff not notice?

As for the separated shoulder, no way does anyone play with that. Sorry but I call BS.

Either answer will be a bit concerning. 

You really need to put su somewhere in your nickname so those who don't know can have some context to your "concerns" about our team. 

[Mama Sue]

Dear The Fan,

The limited games I saw and with limited knowledge of the game, I thought Noah was awesome. Again, having an announce SAY THE NAME of the player making the play would have given Noah some credit. 
I wish him the best of luck in the future!

Mama Sue

[UND1983]

7 hours ago, The Fan said:

I am an uncle to Noah Wanzek, you know, one of the big slow “White” WR’s, who can’t separate (not sure how he caught 74 balls this year) but who gave it his all for 4 years and who basically played with one arm Saturday. He found out today he played with a separated shoulder and fractured collarbone.  Might had something to do with his separation problem. You know, he’s the one who doesn’t have any athleticism, never mind his 22’  long jump & 43’ triple jump in HS and being named a ND Mr. basketball finalist.  Oh yea, he is also one of the WR who is not a D1 talent, according to this blog, yet he’s ranked high in UND’s all time WR record books. Heck, he even beat Kenny Gollady’s season receptions record. I’ve always suspected a subtle hint of racial profiling on this blog, not being black, you know he can’t be that good! Now, it being a race problem actually has been said here by some.  Disgusting!  We have guys on the team with a ton of speed, but few catches. Speed is obviously helpful but it takes more than just speed to be a good wide receiver. 
I never followed this blog until Noah went to UND and will probably not follow it anymore.  But a word of advice, parents and other family members can read too!  Good luck to the Hawks into the future!

Exactly.  I have read 30 times "why isn't Izzy playing?"

[geaux_sioux]

7 hours ago, The Fan said:

I am an uncle to Noah Wanzek, you know, one of the big slow “White” WR’s, who can’t separate (not sure how he caught 74 balls this year) but who gave it his all for 4 years and who basically played with one arm Saturday. He found out today he played with a separated shoulder and fractured collarbone.  Might had something to do with his separation problem. You know, he’s the one who doesn’t have any athleticism, never mind his 22’  long jump & 43’ triple jump in HS and being named a ND Mr. basketball finalist.  Oh yea, he is also one of the WR who is not a D1 talent, according to this blog, yet he’s ranked high in UND’s all time WR record books. Heck, he even beat Kenny Gollady’s season receptions record. I’ve always suspected a subtle hint of racial profiling on this blog, not being black, you know he can’t be that good! Now, it being a race problem actually has been said here by some.  Disgusting!  We have guys on the team with a ton of speed, but few catches. Speed is obviously helpful but it takes more than just speed to be a good wide receiver. 
I never followed this blog until Noah went to UND and will probably not follow it anymore.  But a word of advice, parents and other family members can read too!  Good luck to the Hawks into the future!

And this is why family members shouldn’t post about their family on these sites. Emotions often override reading ability and things get taken personally when in reality there was no personal attack. Go back and re-read my post. Never called out Noah, I clearly stated that he would have been more effective with complimentary WRs that have speed. And if you couldn’t see with your own eyes that Noah wasn’t fast then I don’t know what to tell you. I’ve been very complimentary of him for his entire career because he was a great player with a ton of great attributes, character included, but speed was never going to be one of them, he just isn’t fast which makes his success even more impressive because he had to make a ton of catches with guy draped all over him. 

[Siouxperman8]

8 hours ago, The Fan said:

I am an uncle to Noah Wanzek, you know, one of the big slow “White” WR’s, who can’t separate (not sure how he caught 74 balls this year) but who gave it his all for 4 years and who basically played with one arm Saturday. He found out today he played with a separated shoulder and fractured collarbone.  Might had something to do with his separation problem. You know, he’s the one who doesn’t have any athleticism, never mind his 22’  long jump & 43’ triple jump in HS and being named a ND Mr. basketball finalist.  Oh yea, he is also one of the WR who is not a D1 talent, according to this blog, yet he’s ranked high in UND’s all time WR record books. Heck, he even beat Kenny Gollady’s season receptions record. I’ve always suspected a subtle hint of racial profiling on this blog, not being black, you know he can’t be that good! Now, it being a race problem actually has been said here by some.  Disgusting!  We have guys on the team with a ton of speed, but few catches. Speed is obviously helpful but it takes more than just speed to be a good wide receiver. 
I never followed this blog until Noah went to UND and will probably not follow it anymore.  But a word of advice, parents and other family members can read too!  Good luck to the Hawks into the future!

Noah was a tremendous WR at UND and we were lucky to have him.  Same goes for Travis.  Our WR group has been one of our strengths the last few years.  Noah was one of the best we've ever had and the numbers prove it.

The hit where Noah got hurt happened in front of me in the Alerus and the best word to describe it is jarring.  He was turning up field and didn't have time to adjust to the tackler.  The collision stopped both players cold.  I'm very surprised he was able to play this weekend.  He is a warrior.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Another year, another group of all-conference linemen at NDSU (3 OL, 1 DL). 

Folks, NDSU has a system. Part of their system produces top-caliber lineman. 

 

You can begrudge them or you can learn from them. 

 

 

[Siouxphan27]

2 hours ago, CMSioux said:

You really need to put su somewhere in your nickname so those who don't know can have some context to your "concerns" about our team. 

To be fair, he does have the word “slow” in his nickname. So there is that subtle hint anyway. 

[forksandspoons]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Another year, another group of all-conference linemen at NDSU (3 OL, 1 DL). 

Folks, NDSU has a system. Part of their system produces top-caliber lineman. 

 

You can begrudge them or you can learn from them. 

 

 

And everyone I've talked to says they have the best S&C coach in the country. 

[SIOUX29]

We’ve seen that before because Ketteringham’s home hair was god awful. 

[Oxbow6]

10 minutes ago, SIOUX29 said:

We’ve seen that before because Ketteringham’s home hair was god awful. 

 

[LoyalSioux]

Really disappointing to read racial comments on this blog. Opposing coaches, TV commentators, and avid fans often complimented the WR corps as a strength of UND this year. It didn’t matter that they were white. The were athletic, sure handed and could run. They beat out others, regardless of color, for playing time. They earned it because they were better. The often were obviously better than the DBs covering them one on one, regardless of color.  I hope the coaches can recruit another Wanzek or Maag and I don’t care what color his skin is.  We’ll be a better football team with another just like them.  Adam Thielen is an all pro, Laquon Treadwell got cut earlier this year from the same team, and it has nothing to do with skin color.  And that would be the truth for you to handle geaux-dummy. Don’t have time to listen to your racists comments .....Go Sioux, Go UND, Go Bubba

[UND1983]

White on white racism at SS.  Welcome to 2019.  

[iramurphy]

23 hours ago, The Fan said:

I am an uncle to Noah Wanzek, you know, one of the big slow “White” WR’s, who can’t separate (not sure how he caught 74 balls this year) but who gave it his all for 4 years and who basically played with one arm Saturday. He found out today he played with a separated shoulder and fractured collarbone.  Might had something to do with his separation problem. You know, he’s the one who doesn’t have any athleticism, never mind his 22’  long jump & 43’ triple jump in HS and being named a ND Mr. basketball finalist.  Oh yea, he is also one of the WR who is not a D1 talent, according to this blog, yet he’s ranked high in UND’s all time WR record books. Heck, he even beat Kenny Gollady’s season receptions record. I’ve always suspected a subtle hint of racial profiling on this blog, not being black, you know he can’t be that good! Now, it being a race problem actually has been said here by some.  Disgusting!  We have guys on the team with a ton of speed, but few catches. Speed is obviously helpful but it takes more than just speed to be a good wide receiver. 
I never followed this blog until Noah went to UND and will probably not follow it anymore.  But a word of advice, parents and other family members can read too!  Good luck to the Hawks into the future!

You have to understand a few things about these blogs. None of us have to know anything about FB to post here or for that that matter other fan blogs. I coached wide receivers years ago and the comments about size, speed, separation is simply sports speak that these guys can get from watching 15 min or less of ESPN. We actually had a great group of receivers this year. Ron Erhardt who coached at the AC then Giants, Patriots, Jets, Steelers in no particular order, once told me he wanted receivers who can catch the ball. Everything after that “was gravy”.  Our receivers had no trouble getting open. They had sufficient speed to get behind d backs and to get open. Wanzek is a great athlete. More important to passing success is protecting the passer and getting the ball to the receivers as they break into the seem of the zone or as they accelerate off of the cut against man or in some cases a zone.  The other thing Wanzek and the other receivers did well was block. These guys have enough talent to be successful and that is why they were. This blog is mostly UND fans supportive of the players and coaches. It doesn’t represent the University, nor the majority of UND FB fans. The ill chosen words of one person is their opinion and frankly I’d love to sit down and breakdown game film and show him why I disagree with him and any others who seem to think that opinion is correct. I coached receivers at UND for a couple of years and spent a fair amount of time talking and listening to players and coaches at the HS, and college level. I was also fortunate to talk and interact with NFL athletes and coaches during my son-in-laws 12 yr   NFL career.  Having said that my opinion is probably no more valid than yours or those with whom we disagree. I can say that Noah was one of the best athletes to play WR at UND and would have excelled on any of the teams I have watched at UND for over 50 yrs. 

[SiouxVolley]

This is not a blog, it is a message board.

Repeat.

A couple of people here have blogs separate from these message boards/ forums.  Blogs are from one or several authors that have different software.

The people calling this a blog are computer illiterate.

[Fry Bread]

I have enjoyed this forum for over five years. 
I have children who are “white” and children of, politically correct term coming up, African decent. 
One child even played football. 
 

I have never been offended by anyone on this forum. Scratched my head a time or two, but never offended. 
 

I am not posting this in regards to how I think anyone should feel, or to dictate how I think anyone should take a another’s statement. This is up to each individual 
 

I am just expressing my view on this subject for the first, and only time. 

[Siouxperman8]

7 hours ago, LoyalSioux said:

Really disappointing to read racial comments on this blog. Opposing coaches, TV commentators, and avid fans often complimented the WR corps as a strength of UND this year. It didn’t matter that they were white. The were athletic, sure handed and could run. They beat out others, regardless of color, for playing time. They earned it because they were better. The often were obviously better than the DBs covering them one on one, regardless of color.  I hope the coaches can recruit another Wanzek or Maag and I don’t care what color his skin is.  We’ll be a better football team with another just like them.  Adam Thielen is an all pro, Laquon Treadwell got cut earlier this year from the same team, and it has nothing to do with skin color.  And that would be the truth for you to handle geaux-dummy. Don’t have time to listen to your racists comments .....Go Sioux, Go UND, Go Bubba

I would like to say again - our WRs as a group was a strength for us this year.   We were lucky to have Wanzek, Toivonen and Maag and they were/are tremendous players.  

We had our season tickets next to some of the Wanzek family over the past 4 years and they are exactly the kind of people we want associated with our program.  Parents, grandparents, aunts, uncle, siblings (I believe) and cousins were at all of the home games and many of the away games.  We are lucky to have them connected to the program also. 

[Oxbow6]

% of black athletes in NFL position wise at WR, RB, CB and Safety

2014: WR-88%  RB-85%  CB-99%  S-79%

2016:  WR-88%  RB-94%. CB-98%  S-85%

QBs......20% in 2014 and 21% in 2016

[Siouxphan27]

8 hours ago, UND1983 said:

White on white racism at SS.  Welcome to 2019.  

Hey now...you’re assuming these people are identifying as being white...can’t do that..

[geaux_sioux]

41 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

% of black athletes in NFL position wise at WR, RB, CB and Safety

2014: WR-88%  RB-85%  CB-99%  S-79%

2016:  WR-88%  RB-94%. CB-98%  S-85%

QBs......20% in 2014 and 21% in 2016

These numbers right here are racism, shame.

 

[geaux_sioux]

1 hour ago, Siouxperman8 said:

I would like to say again - our WRs as a group was a strength for us this year.   We were lucky to have Wanzek, Toivonen and Maag and they were/are tremendous players.  

We had our season tickets next to some of the Wanzek family over the past 4 years and they are exactly the kind of people we want associated with our program.  Parents, grandparents, aunts, uncle, siblings (I believe) and cousins were at all of the home games and many of the away games.  We are lucky to have them connected to the program also. 

If we had a Hardin type to compliment our slow WRs our offense would have been much better. And yes we all know those three are really good, literally nobody said they weren’t.

[siouxkid12]

On 12/3/2019 at 7:38 AM, geaux_sioux said:

And this is why family members shouldn’t post about their family on these sites. Emotions often override reading ability and things get taken personally when in reality there was no personal attack. Go back and re-read my post. Never called out Noah, I clearly stated that he would have been more effective with complimentary WRs that have speed. And if you couldn’t see with your own eyes that Noah wasn’t fast then I don’t know what to tell you. I’ve been very complimentary of him for his entire career because he was a great player with a ton of great attributes, character included, but speed was never going to be one of them, he just isn’t fast which makes his success even more impressive because he had to make a ton of catches with guy draped all over him. 

There might not have been personal attacks but did you need to say "black" WR? Seems unintelligent and lazy...