TheFlop Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: In a season that required us to win one more game, yes, I am honestly saying that. He wasn't some throw away. He was a Top 10 overall draft pick. I'll ask again... Do you not think Tyson Jost gets that team into the playoffs? 16 goals, 19 assists as a freshmen. You are making my point for me. Losing a single player one year early, even a great player like Jost is not the reason they missed the playoffs. The chronic lack of production from the Hoffs, Yons, Bowens, Janutenieuns, Simonsons, Adams, etc is what causes a team to miss the playoffs. A good team should not need a top 10 draft pick just to make the playoffs in college hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franchise Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Of course Jost makes one game difference and they make the tourney, but I don't think that's the point. The point is...he left. That's no excuse for the poor play they exhibited much of last year. Lack of production out of the guys on the roster that ARE/WERE here is why they missed the tourney. This is similar to the...had they just beat *insert terrible loss*, then they would have been in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 With the margins so slim last year and with all the ties Jost was worth at least a point a game which probably swing at least one of those games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 .......and if Brock and Nick were around too UND would have hung #9 last year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Schloss notes that NCHC teams winning percentage at .800 when outshooting opponent by double digits. UND at .423 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 This is the first I'm hearing about UND outshooting opposing teams. Have they been doing that regularly this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, brianvf said: This is the first I'm hearing about UND outshooting opposing teams. Have they been doing that regularly this year? Possession = wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 10 hours ago, SJHovey said: It's like we're discussing the ability of someone to be the head of cardiac surgery at Johns Hopkins just because we had an ekg done once. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 5 hours ago, TheFlop said: Are you honestly saying that a premier college hockey team should fail to make the playoffs when they lose only 1 player earlier than expected........honestly? Keeping in mind that making the playoffs only requires you to be in the top 16 of 60 teams, in a division littered with such juggernauts as Robert Morris, Canisius, Alabama Huntsville, etc. In a sport like basketball where one player can dominate almost every minute of the game, sure, but in hockey that is ridiculous. Wait...did you say Canisius? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Michigan did lose at home to #51 Merrimack tonight, so there is that. I guess misery loves company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Schloss notes that NCHC teams winning percentage at .800 when outshooting opponent by double digits. UND at .423 On full moon nights, in January, on odd number days, when the temp is above 21 degrees. UND record is .900. Talk about a small sample size there Schloss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakotaKid92 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Cratter said: On full moon nights, in January, on odd number days, when the temp is above 21 degrees. UND record is .900. Global warming could save the season? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 hours ago, dakotaKid92 said: Global warming could save the season? So Al Gore is coming in as an assistant coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 15 hours ago, TheFlop said: You are making my point for me. Losing a single player one year early, even a great player like Jost is not the reason they missed the playoffs. The chronic lack of production from the Hoffs, Yons, Bowens, Janutenieuns, Simonsons, Adams, etc is what causes a team to miss the playoffs. A good team should not need a top 10 draft pick just to make the playoffs in college hockey. You're still completely ignoring what I asked. Do you think Jost gets that team to the playoffs last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 15 hours ago, franchise said: Of course Jost makes one game difference and they make the tourney, but I don't think that's the point. The point is...he left. That's no excuse for the poor play they exhibited much of last year. Lack of production out of the guys on the roster that ARE/WERE here is why they missed the tourney. This is similar to the...had they just beat *insert terrible loss*, then they would have been in. It literally is an excuse (aka, a reason) that this team didn't make the tourney, though. It's a reason they played worse. They lost a player that is a Top 10 draft pick. I get the point... others should pick up the slack. But, that ignores the fact that Jost would have made the team and all the other players around him, better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 15 hours ago, franchise said: Of course Jost makes one game difference and they make the tourney, but I don't think that's the point. The point is...he left. That's no excuse for the poor play they exhibited much of last year. Lack of production out of the guys on the roster that ARE/WERE here is why they missed the tourney. This is similar to the...had they just beat *insert terrible loss*, then they would have been in. So, if this team makes the playoffs last year with Jost, are we having this conversation? ABSO-FRICKIN-LUTLEY.... NOT. That's my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 14 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Possession = wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 1/7/2019 at 5:26 PM, Godsmack said: You saw it differently? Where am I wrong? I was teasing (partially ). I’m sick of hearing what the other team did to defeat us. That team was terrible, numbers don’t lie. They should have never been able to rope a dope us. It seems as though many teams are able to rope a dope is this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 14 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Possession = wins It’s almost always true...except for us. Every Friday and Saturday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 19 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said: So, you're honestly saying that Tyson Jost, a player who showed he can consistently score goals on a team that struggled to score goals last year and is now playing in the NHL, leaving a year earlier than likely expected had no bearing on the team last season? Honestly? Even without Jost I said last years team was capable at making a run in the NCAA tournament as they were as capable of beating anyone in the country 2-1 as they were capable of losing to anyone in the country 2-1. We played UMD in a game at the Excel Energy Center that both teams believed 100% they had to win to have any chance to make the NCAA tournament and handled them fairly easily....we all know what happened next. As far as 2019, we seem to not look out of place when we play teams that try and beat us and attempt to create their own chances and we struggle against teams that pack it in and play not to lose and hope we make mistakes or they get a bounce of the puck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, petey23 said: As far as 2019, we seem to not look out of place when we play teams that try and beat us and attempt to create their own chances and we struggle against teams that pack it in and play not to lose and hope we make mistakes or they get a bounce of the puck. It's so weird, but it seems to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, petey23 said: Even without Jost I said last years team was capable at making a run in the NCAA tournament as they were as capable of beating anyone in the country 2-1 as they were capable of losing to anyone in the country 2-1. We played UMD in a game at the Excel Energy Center that both teams believed 100% they had to win to have any chance to make the NCAA tournament and handled them fairly easily....we all know what happened next. As far as 2019, we seem to not look out of place when we play teams that try and beat us and attempt to create their own chances and we struggle against teams that pack it in and play not to lose and hope we make mistakes or they get a bounce of the puck. Good call. Teams that open themselves up a little more probably are giving us a few better looks and odd man rushes, which is probably what this team needs to score more. That's likely what we will be seeing the rest of the year, so fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franchise Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: It literally is an excuse (aka, a reason) that this team didn't make the tourney, though. It's a reason they played worse. They lost a player that is a Top 10 draft pick. I get the point... others should pick up the slack. But, that ignores the fact that Jost would have made the team and all the other players around him, better. Reason: They lost one more game than they could afford. Excuse: Well...if only Jost had stayed in school, everything would have been fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franchise Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: So, if this team makes the playoffs last year with Jost, are we having this conversation? ABSO-FRICKIN-LUTLEY.... NOT. That's my point. 100% everyone would still think it's a disgrace to be swept by Canisius and sick of watching this team score 2 goals a weekend...regardless of slipping into the playoffs last yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, franchise said: 100% everyone would still think it's a disgrace to be swept by Canisius and sick of watching this team score 2 goals a weekend...regardless of slipping into the playoffs last yr Disgraceful? Sure, but we have a stinker series every year. Fire able, like is being talked about now? Absolutely not. Anyone who would be calling for Bubbs head on the on the backs of a natty and two tournament appearances is not stable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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