SWSiouxMN Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: https://undfootball360.com/news/looking-at-potential-ol-wr-candidates/ For reference, they had 5 FBS guys on their list, so the #thinkfbs hint left some wiggle room, haha No inside info but my guess would be Pawlak and Irving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SiouxFan100 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I find the changes exciting. They bring back some hope that we can be successful next year. I still find it somewhat bizarre, if this is what turns things around, that it took this long. This is a big "if". Hopefully!!!! By the way - Happy New Year everyone!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bang Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Not that I think it will happen but it would be awesome to get Kuper for the OL. To tell you the truth I’m concerned that we won’t find an improvement at this position. Not even sure Knauf should’ve been fired to begin with. He had some bad luck with big recruits not showing, leaving or being booted off the team. I think the line performed well considering the talent he had and the OC calling the plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, bang said: Not that I think it will happen but it would be awesome to get Kuper for the OL. To tell you the truth I’m concerned that we won’t find an improvement at this position. Not even sure Knauf should’ve been fired to begin with. He had some bad luck with big recruits not showing, leaving or being booted off the team. I think the line performed well considering the talent he had and the OC calling the plays. "considering the talent he had". He was in charge of recruiting that talent and was poor at doing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, UND1983 said: "considering the talent he had". He was in charge of recruiting that talent and was poor at doing it. He’s part in control. The coaches take territories and recruit from there. At any rate like I stated he had some bad luck. Slater, Williams, Grady, the guy from Minot that got hurt and the unnamed players who got booted. There might have been more to it I don’t know. Out of all the coaches (minus the OC) he’s not the one I get rid of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Just wanted to have the first post in 2019 Happy New Year!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 This is not a judgement on Sam King, whom I don't know much about. Just an observation about our program in general - It has to be one of the most in-bred programs in the country. Bubba has successfully resisted any change for 5 years and the result is mediocrity. Finally he is forced to make some staff changes and we immediately hire either someone who is already on staff or someone that has spent time here. God forbid we get any new blood or anyone that would bring in any new-fangled ideas. We have an incredible tolerance for a crap program because he is "one of us, one of us". The GOBC really let us down on this one - we have wasted a decade now - how much longer are we content. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 This is NOT a UND thing. Urban Meyer was a GA at OSU 20 years before he became their head coach. Every college keeps an eye on the good young coaches they helped cultivate. Almost all colleges looking for a new coach now are contemplating hiring someone who played there or formerly coached there. This is not new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Siouxperman8 Posted January 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Irish said: This is not a judgement on Sam King, whom I don't know much about. Just an observation about our program in general - It has to be one of the most in-bred programs in the country. Bubba has successfully resisted any change for 5 years and the result is mediocrity. Finally he is forced to make some staff changes and we immediately hire either someone who is already on staff or someone that has spent time here. God forbid we get any new blood or anyone that would bring in any new-fangled ideas. We have an incredible tolerance for a crap program because he is "one of us, one of us". The GOBC really let us down on this one - we have wasted a decade now - how much longer are we content. I'm not sure he was forced to do anything. He made a choice. There's no wonder we aren't hiring high end experienced coaches for these positions with a $40k salary. Need to up our salary pool if we want to attract more experienced coaches. That is on the administration - not Bubba. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 We don’t seem to have the luxury of the cash needed to get to the next level. I am guessing that salary levels limit who wants to coach here. I agree with Siouxperman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I agree with Shep, but what Irish is saying is true. Yes, let’s get former players like Kuper who has massive experience outside of UND. Kings coaching experience outside of UND doesn’t amount to much. In this case it may have come down to salary. It’s hard to say not knowing. I know on paper there was more qualified candidates but could the staff lure them in with money that was available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 OL is the more important position. I’d love to see a slam dunk on this hire. I think King will do good with the WR’s and maybe the youth in the coaching staff will help with recruiting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UNDvince97-01 Posted January 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Irish said: This is not a judgement on Sam King, whom I don't know much about. Just an observation about our program in general - It has to be one of the most in-bred programs in the country. Bubba has successfully resisted any change for 5 years and the result is mediocrity. Finally he is forced to make some staff changes and we immediately hire either someone who is already on staff or someone that has spent time here. God forbid we get any new blood or anyone that would bring in any new-fangled ideas. We have an incredible tolerance for a crap program because he is "one of us, one of us". The GOBC really let us down on this one - we have wasted a decade now - how much longer are we content. So under your definition of "in-bred", when Sam King was hired the first time as a GA, Bubba went outside the circles of UND Football to find him in the first place and hired "new blood". But after Sam coached at UND for 2 years, then went to Duluth to coach running backs under Noah Pauley for 2 years in UMD's high octane offense, he's now considered an in-bred hire and not new blood or new-fangled ideas? Got it. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Siouxperman8 said: I'm not sure he was forced to do anything. He made a choice. There's no wonder we aren't hiring high end experienced coaches for these positions with a $40k salary. Need to up our salary pool if we want to attract more experienced coaches. That is on the administration - not Bubba. Point #1: ummmmmmm.........no! Point #2: spot on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said: Point #1: ummmmmmm.........no! The choice was Bubba's. The AD isn't dictating mandatory staffing moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 minute ago, jdub27 said: The choice was Bubba's. The AD isn't dictating mandatory staffing moves. We must have different sources and connections. I'll stand by mine. It was not Bubba's choice alone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Point #1: ummmmmmm.........no! Point #2: spot on. Pt #1 - conjecture or do you know it was dictated to Bubba? I don't know for sure but knowing Bubba a little I think he made the decision on his own. He gave Rudolf an extra year to right things but I believe that was a mistake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: We must have different sources and connections. I'll stand by mine. It was not Bubba's choice alone. Maybe but there was no ultimatum. Not that it mattered, there was no one against the decision but Bubba made the call not Chaves. What sort of issues do you get when the AD starts dictating staffing decisions? Pretty easy to push any failures back to the top when you do things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Maybe but there was no ultimatum. Not that it mattered, there was no one against the decision. What sort of issues do you get when the AD starts dictating staffing decisions? Pretty easy to push any failures back to the top when you do things like that. Point #1: I think you are onto something here. Point #2: Well Bubba still has a job so there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 The gobc directed bubba to make the move and the move was made. Mods close this thread pleade 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, gfhockey said: The gobc directed bubba to make the move and the move was made. Mods close this thread pleade Did Lowell pick up the breakfast tab that morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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