the green team Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Am I incorrect? I thought the Champions Club set a new all time mark as far as dollars raised last year. And essentially have been one upping themselves every year for quite some time now. The way some people make it sound on here is that UND has been missing the mark horribly in raising dollars for athletics, repeatedly. If anything Mr. Chaves must be thrilled to arrive an at an institution, where there has been a proven track record of not only setting and reaching goals when it comes to club fundraising, but often times surpassing them, where in comparison the institution that he arrives from (EWU) has had, and continues to have significant struggles in that area. I'm as excited as the next person that he is here, but I don't see our fundraising as an apocalyptic issue that has been hanging over Athletics as others do I guess. Quote
gfhockey Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 We fell way behind ndsu they get all shollies paid for by fundraising Quote
UNDBIZ Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 38 minutes ago, gfhockey said: We fell way behind ndsu they get all shollies paid for by fundraising And charitable gambling.... 2 Quote
lawkota Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, gfhockey said: they get all shollies paid for by fundraising UND doesn't need shollies, as the school doesn't have livestock to herd. Quote
nodak651 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Chaves said in an interview right after he got hired that he would wait a few months before making an changes. Want's to get an idea of what the culture is and how things currently operate before making decisions. Quote
UND Fan Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 5 hours ago, the green team said: just Am I incorrect? I thought the Champions Club set a new all time mark as far as dollars raised last year. And essentially have been one upping themselves every year for quite some time now. The way some people make it sound on here is that UND has been missing the mark horribly in raising dollars for athletics, repeatedly. If anything Mr. Chaves must be thrilled to arrive an at an institution, where there has been a proven track record of not only setting and reaching goals when it comes to club fundraising, but often times surpassing them, where in comparison the institution that he arrives from (EWU) has had, and continues to have significant struggles in that area. I'm as excited as the next person that he is here, but I don't see our fundraising as an apocalyptic issue that has been hanging over Athletics as others do I guess. Yes, the CC has continued to grow but that is a necessity. The ND legislature provides less funding for higher education and college athletics than most other states*. That would obviously mean that to compete with other DI schools, we need to raise more than many others just to be on the same playing field (no pun intended). Some of our expenses are going to be significantly higher than others due to GF's rather remote and unpopulated location (recruiting costs, team travel, etc.). Tuition and room & board costs rise every year so the budget needs to increase annually just to break even. We all know that we are paying our coaches and assistants (in most all sports) less (in may cases, much less) than they would make at others schools. The above are facts but in no way hints "that UND has been missing the mark". However, most all programs (probably not hockey) are lacking in some significant areas due to budget constraints. As GFH pointed out, Team Makers raise enough funds annually to cover the costs of all NDSU athletic scholarships. Despite the continued growth of CC, we are far from covering all of our scholarships. If we can get there, that would free up $1M or so for salaries and all the things needed by each program. Chaves is happy to be at UND but fully understands that additional $ are needed for our sports to improve to the level that we are competing for a conference title on a consistent basis. * I will try to find the statistics to confirm this statement. I will post them here when I have them. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 23 minutes ago, UND Fan said: Yes, the CC has continued to grow but that is a necessity. The ND legislature provides less funding for higher education and college athletics than most other states*. That would obviously mean that to compete with other DI schools, we need to raise more than many others just to be on the same playing field (no pun intended). Some of our expenses are going to be significantly higher than others due to GF's rather remote and unpopulated location (recruiting costs, team travel, etc.). Tuition and room & board costs rise every year so the budget needs to increase annually just to break even. We all know that we are paying our coaches and assistants (in most all sports) less (in may cases, much less) than they would make at others schools. The above are facts but in no way hints "that UND has been missing the mark". However, most all programs (probably not hockey) are lacking in some significant areas due to budget constraints. As GFH pointed out, Team Makers raise enough funds annually to cover the costs of all NDSU athletic scholarships. Despite the continued growth of CC, we are far from covering all of our scholarships. If we can get there, that would free up $1M or so for salaries and all the things needed by each program. Chaves is happy to be at UND but fully understands that additional $ are needed for our sports to improve to the level that we are competing for a conference title on a consistent basis. * I will try to find the statistics to confirm this statement. I will post them here when I have them. http://www.sheeo.org/sites/default/files/SHEF_FY2017.pdf - Page 27 doesn't support this. Quote
Blackheart Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 5 hours ago, gfhockey said: We fell way behind ndsu they get all shollies paid for by fundraising Yes, these guys can be expensive. Quote
UND Fan Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: http://www.sheeo.org/sites/default/files/SHEF_FY2017.pdf - Page 27 doesn't support this. Thanks for posting this - interesting! It might be a day or two before I can get to my source - you may be correct. If so, some folks who should know better are sharing some incorrect information! Quote
UNDBIZ Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, UND Fan said: Thanks for posting this - interesting! It might be a day or two before I can get to my source - you may be correct. If so, some folks who should know better are sharing some incorrect information! If it was broken down by campus, it may paint a different picture. Having so many small campuses in North Dakota inflates our numbers, as they lack the economies of scale. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Met Chaves today while on campus. BF he is not!!! I was very impressed. .........and I think I actually might have been slightly taller than him. #both5'8"withheelson Quote
Cratter Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 On 4/12/2018 at 10:51 AM, UNDBIZ said: And charitable gambling.... Exactly. I've said in the past UND should be at least given the Playmakers @ Canad Inn. Quote
lawkota Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, Cratter said: Exactly. I've said in the past UND should be at least given the Playmakers @ Canad Inn. Has an entity affiliated with UND athletics ever attempted to start chariable gaming? Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 50/50 at hockey games is gaming. Quote
lawkota Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 I guess what I meant was have they tried to get into gaming at a bar in town and been rejected. Quote
DB Cooper Posted April 13, 2018 Posted April 13, 2018 Bill spoke at the CC reception last night. Very impressed with his communication skills and he talked to many donors and student-athletes. Seems to be miles ahead of our previous AD. Great things to come in the future for UND athletics! 3 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 https://fightinghawks.com/news/2018/8/14/general-ad-mannausau-takes-on-new-role-with-alumni-association-foundation.aspx Quote The University of North Dakota Athletics Department and UND Alumni Association & Foundation jointly announced today that Associate Athletics Director/Major Gifts Mike Mannausau has been named Vice President of Development, Major Gifts, for the University. 1 Quote
UNDvince97-01 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: https://fightinghawks.com/news/2018/8/14/general-ad-mannausau-takes-on-new-role-with-alumni-association-foundation.aspx Smart move for UND. Just a few years too late unfortunately. Here comes Phase II... Quote
UNDBIZ Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, UNDvince97-01 said: Just a few years too late unfortunately. Due to the ND economic downturn? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Quote The University of North Dakota Athletics Department and UND Alumni Association & Foundation jointly announced today that Associate Athletics Director/Major Gifts Mike Mannausau has been named Vice President of Development, Major Gifts, for the University. Shouldn't there be some wailing and gnashing of teeth over the University adding another VP? Sackcloth? Ashes? Anyone? Quote
jdub27 Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 Pretty sure he'll still be employed by the Alumni Foundation, however his focus will be on gifts "for the University" not "for Athletics" like it previously was. Awkward wording with his title and how they worded it. Separate but semi-related subject: Didn't realize how many people actually work for the Alumni Foundation. Quite a few more than I would have thought. Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted August 14, 2018 Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: Shouldn't there be some wailing and gnashing of teeth over the University adding another VP? Sackcloth? Ashes? Anyone? I'm sure they will make an exception for a UND guy, because you know, UND never hires UND guys for VP positions. Quote
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