BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 The salary seems appropriate considering budget challenges at the U, didn't think would be over 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Cant believe they gave him 4 years. Wow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, UNDvince97-01 said: Cant believe they gave him 4 years. Wow. You aren't gonna sign a coach to a 2 year deal. Schools do it all the time for recruiting purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Four years is a huge risk given his past record. For several years he looked like he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 You aren't gonna see anyone complete the final year of their contract either without a new deal in place. 4 years is too much given the record and history. I'm ok with the salary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Guessing the 4th year was the compromise for a lower salary (or at least slightly lower than I expected), which wouldn't be the first time that trade-off has been made. Wondering if there are any bonus clauses for league championships or NCAA tournament appearances or any buyout clauses for either Jones or UND. Hopefully the increase in the assistant salary pool was a meaningful bump. Some stability there, especially with current staff, would be a welcome change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 What's buyout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Dakota Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Glad it's finally done and out in the open. Seems like a reasonable deal. I would assume the buyout is whatever's left on his contract at the time so 1 year = $140,000, 2 years = $280,000..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 4 above average years in BSC play and one below average year...Based on actual BSC conference record not uninformed opinions from the peanut gallery....Another Fact is the Jones has 3rd best winning % in conference play of all 12 active BSC head coaches....4 year contract is fair...should of got it a year ago....Needs to pick up recruiting now as his last 2 freshman classes have been lame and Summit is a bit tougher than BSC...my guess is that this will be his final contract at UND 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 56 minutes ago, hoops44 said: 4 above average years in BSC play and one below average year...Based on actual BSC conference record not uninformed opinions from the peanut gallery....Another Fact is the Jones has 3rd best winning % in conference play of all 12 active BSC head coaches....4 year contract is fair...should of got it a year ago....Needs to pick up recruiting now as his last 2 freshman classes have been lame and Summit is a bit tougher than BSC...my guess is that this will be his final contract at UND Jones' winning percentage by year in the Big Sky: 2012-2013 12-8 60.0% 2013-2014 12-8 60.0% 2014-2015 4-14 22.2% 2015-2016 10-8 55.6%2016-2017 14-4 77.8% Total 52-42 55.3% I'd say he's had one good, one bad and 3 average years. His career Big Sky winning percentage is equivalent to a 10-8 season, which is average and should be the absolute minimum expectation along with a semi-final appearance in the conference tournament at least 3 out of 4 years. He had a .500 career record before last season, I'm not so sure what screams extension about that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernraider Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I bet we could have gotten Phil Jackson for just a few hundred thousand dollars more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SiouxVolley Posted June 29, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2017 Jones got a contract extension courtesy of Quinton Hooker. Did the Q at least get a gift basket as an expression of thanks? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said: Jones got a contract extension courtesy of Quinton Hooker. Did the Q at least get a gift basket as an expression of thanks? Correction:. Ahelegbe should get the gift basket. He was instrumental in recruiting Q. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 hour ago, jdub27 said: Jones' winning percentage by year in the Big Sky: 2012-2013 12-8 60.0% 2013-2014 12-8 60.0% 2014-2015 4-14 22.2% 2015-2016 10-8 55.6%2016-2017 14-4 77.8% Total 52-42 55.3% I'd say he's had one good, one bad and 3 average years. His career Big Sky winning percentage is equivalent to a 10-8 season, which is average and should be the absolute minimum expectation along with a semi-final appearance in the conference tournament at least 3 out of 4 years. He had a .500 career record before last season, I'm not so sure what screams extension about that. 50% of 18 is 9 not 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 36 minutes ago, hoops44 said: 50% of 18 is 9 not 10 Follow along: He had a .500% career record (38-38) before last season. His current career record is equivalent to a 10-8 season (~55%). Unless of course you referring to 50% being an average season, which is a pretty sad goal to shoot for with the resources UND has (despite not giving MBB the attention it deserves). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hoops44 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 24 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Follow along: He had a .500% career record (38-38) before last season. His current career record is equivalent to a 10-8 season (~55%). let me simplify this for you...if team plays 18 game a 50% win season would be 9....over 9 win is winning over half your games and better than the average of and 18 games BSC Schedule/ a winning conference record ...UND won greater than 50% of BSC games in 80% of Jones is BSC seasons and Jones has 3rd best winning% of all active mens BSC basketball coaches....you are simply a hater or poor at logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 So 38-38 > .500 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 So his deal goes 3 years into Summit League play, after last season I hope the hype continues. That was the most exciting time for men's basketball in probably 20-30 years. I can't wait to see them raise that trophy in Sioux Falls after they raise it in Reno of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 He got the raise and the years, now it is time to go back to work. They got to the top, now can they stay at the top consistently and can they get back to the dance?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawkota Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 If Jones completes all 4 years of this deal, it will mark 51 years of UND basketball under 3 head coaches. (If my math is right - Gunther started in the 70-71 season I believe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 2 hours ago, lawkota said: If Jones completes all 4 years of this deal, it will mark 51 years of UND basketball under 3 head coaches. (If my math is right - Gunther started in the 70-71 season I believe). Currently UND has had 4 football head coaches in the last 31 years, and UND has had 2 head coaches in the last 30 years of women's basketball, and 4 head coaches in the last 39 years in hockey. Not much for turnover in the major sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 6/29/2017 at 3:35 PM, teamsioux said: Could be a long 4 years if things don’t get better unless the new AD ends this contract early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 9 hours ago, darell1976 said: Could be a long 4 years if things don’t get better unless the new AD ends this contract early. Will still be a long four years ..new coach will have to rebuild and recruit quality d1 basketball prospects to grand forks which is not easy to do.....unlikely to budget money to buy out jones, did not do for 100k . Now he has 140k guarenteed for 4 years....plus Have the coin to get a great coach to grand forks. The fires jones mantra will ring empty for another 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, hoops44 said: Will still be a long four years ..new coach will have to rebuild and recruit quality d1 basketball prospects to grand forks which is not easy to do.....unlikely to budget money to buy out jones, did not do for 100k . Now he has 140k guarenteed for 4 years....plus Have the coin to get a great coach to grand forks. The fires jones mantra will ring empty for another 3 years Seemed to work in Fargo for Dave Richman. 23-10 (Dance Trip), 20-13, 19-11. Grand Forks isn't different than Fargo when it comes to basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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