Big Green Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Just now, UND1983 said: Those 500-1000 fans/game certainly make it worth two million dollars a year. Strong argument. I would bet more fan's attend womens hockey than Soccer, Tennis, Softball, Swimming/Diving and Golf Combined. More national exposure for Women's Hockey and a chance for National Championship. Much more room to grow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, AJS said: Kennedy can't make this decision fast enough. I don't think Kennedy is going to make any decision. He said Faison cut a million plus from the athletic budget...and then he'll say "Sounds good. I'll be by your side when you tell everyone." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 To me the core problem is the NCAA. So what if Wazzamatta U wants to play DI mens lacrosse and nothing else. So. What. Obviously Wazzamatta would have to do things inside their university to meet Title IX, but why should any school have to play 14 or 16 sports to just play 1 or 2 that might make fiscal sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsioux Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Schlossman and Miller on with Jack Michaels this afternoon. Mainly discuss all the questions regarding the athletic department cuts with a bit of the hockey teams battle to make the NCAA tourney. http://740thefan.com/podcasts/jack-michaels-show/962/tom-miller-and-brad-schlossman-on-und-budget-cuts-and-und-mens-hockey/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsioux Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Cratter said: I don't think Kennedy is going to make any decision. He said Faison cut a million plus from the athletic budget...and then he'll say "Sounds good. I'll be by your side when you tell everyone." First round Kennedy made sure to publicly state committee had major role and now second round he throws it on Faison. We have rarely heard BF'S name until now regarding budget decisions. Kennedy should go into politics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 28 minutes ago, Cratter said: I don't think Kennedy is going to make any decision. He said Faison cut a million plus from the athletic budget...and then he'll say "Sounds good. I'll be by your side when you tell everyone." I believe you are wrong on this.....Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 On 2/20/2017 at 4:14 PM, Cratter said: Womens Hockey won't be cut at UND thanks to its sugar daddy in Mens Hockey. Explain this in further detail please?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 40 minutes ago, UNDvince97-01 said: I believe you are wrong on this.....Again. If you're great at reading between the lines like I am, thats basically what the Herald article stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cratter said: If you're great at reading between the lines like I am, thats basically what the Herald article stated. Oh.... You haven't been great at reading between the lines/speculating/stating facts in the past, so I'm just trying to understand your take and angle on this one. If you think Kennedy (publicly or privately) will have no say in this round of cuts, you are sadly mistaken. Remember when Kennedy wasn't cutting any more sports because you said that he already stated he wasn't going to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, UNDvince97-01 said: If you think Kennedy (publicly or privately) will have no say in this round of cuts, you are sadly mistaken. Remember when Kennedy wasn't cutting any more sports because you said that he already stated he wasn't going to? I didn't say Kennedy wouldn't have any say. "Sounds good" is the presidents confirmation of the recommendations. Not sure about your last comment. I was probably just pointing out hypocrisy of said statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 On 2/20/2017 at 4:14 PM, Cratter said: Womens Hockey won't be cut at UND thanks to its sugar daddy in Mens Hockey. While they are politically correct enough not to take a public position on this, the folks running the Ralph would prefer that women's hockey disappeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, UND Fan said: While they are politically correct enough not to take a public position on this, the folks running the Ralph would prefer that women's hockey disappeared. R U sure? Sounds like employees I wouldn't want working for my company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: R U sure? Sounds like employees I wouldn't want working for my company. Because they'd rather have the "company" make money? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Because they'd rather have the "company" make money? They're "non-profit" so making money is against the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, UNDvince97-01 said: They're "non-profit" so making money is against the rules. Uh, ... depends on what type of non-profit they are. A non-profit can make money as long as it defines where its "excess revenues" must go. In REA's case, it's UND Athletics. Heck, Sanford Health is a non-profit. You know because they file an IRS Form 990. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 46 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: R U sure? Sounds like employees I wouldn't want working for my company. Maybe they see the potential for having a months worth of weekends freed up to get an event or two that makes money. I don't know how many weekend women's hockey isn't at home the same time men's is but I estimated 4. One big concert during one of those weekends would do more for the Ralph and the city than an entire season of women's hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, homer said: Maybe they see the potential for having a months worth of weekends freed up to get an event or two that makes money. I don't know how many weekend women's hockey isn't at home the same time men's is but I estimated 4. One big concert during one of those weekends would do more for the Ralph and the city than an entire season of women's hockey Seems like it's difficult to get in good a good show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Let's make the criteria any sport that can't legitimately win a NC is on the block. Because isn't that what you play for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Seems like it's difficult to get in good a good show? Fargodome seems to do ok. Only thing they have that the Ralph doesn't is more free weekends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Seems like it's difficult to get in good a good show? REA has brought in some good shows over its 15+ years in existence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, homer said: Fargodome seems to do ok. Only thing they have that the Ralph doesn't is more free weekends. And profit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hky Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 6 hours ago, UND Fan said: While they are politically correct enough not to take a public position on this, the folks running the Ralph would prefer that women's hockey disappeared. Because it is so costly? They could make $ on other events? Assuming that extra money would go to UND athletics? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 8 hours ago, hky said: Because it is so costly? They could make $ on other events? Assuming that extra money would go to UND athletics? Some $ may go to UND and not stay in the athletic department, without extra events, anyway. Not saying that's a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Pure speculation by me, but logisitics for a women's game have to be just as tough as for a men's game* in a lot of ways. Lots of work for little return. *Security, ushers, guest services, concessions, medical, ice crew, ticket office, ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 12 hours ago, hky said: Because it is so costly? They could make $ on other events? Assuming that extra money would go to UND athletics? The cost of running a women's game isn't dramatically different than a guy's so it is definitely a money loser. As pointed out earlier, the other major factor is that women's games take up so much of the calendar that could be used for other events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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