GDT: North Dakota v. Richmond

[SIOUXFAN97]

since i too busy being threatened by numerous ushers near the end of the game i just realized and read in the heraldo that bubba  decided to hold onto his last timeout for the offseason???  r u kidding...so he decides not to call a timeout with at least nine seconds or so to either make them run another play or leave a couple seconds left for a kickoff when you have an allamerican return man??? really bubba?

[Longtime fan]

47 minutes ago, Cratter said:

 

 Could not agree more on the first topic and as frustrated as I am with that the roughing the punter...I call bullsh$& on the kid being stripped of his scholarship...idiotic quote 

[Cratter]

8 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

since i too busy being threatened by numerous ushers near the end of the game i just realized and read in the heraldo that bubba  decided to hold onto his last timeout for the offseason???  r u kidding...so he decides not to call a timeout with at least nine seconds or so to either make them run another play or leave a couple seconds left for a kickoff when you have an allamerican return man??? really bubba?

Watching the replay on espn 3 today. It looked like a second left was on the clock when the ball went through the uprights. 

Bubba conceded defeat pretty easily.

[mksioux]

5 hours ago, bincitysioux said:

I bet if that double reverse gained 15 yards that would be considered a great call.  If the flea flicker would have resulted in a 9 yard sack, it would have been a horrible call.

It was different than the flea flicker for two main reasons - First, the flea flicker was in the first half when the score was tied.  The double reverse was late in the 3rd quarter with a commanding lead at a point in time when they were moving the ball and eating up the clock relatively well.  Second, the double reverse sent Studsrud out around the edge into the field to block.  I remember at the time I was thinking that if we lost Studsrud, we'd have no chance against EWU (at the time, the thought of losing didn't seem possible).  Just a boneheaded call all around.

it's not that you should never try trick plays, but just know the situation.  There was absolutely no reason to do it at that point.    

 

Also, as someone pointed out, UND was close to field goal range at the time.  3 more points there really puts a dagger in them.

[geaux_sioux]

2 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Watching the replay on espn 3 today. It looked like a second left was on the clock when the ball went through the uprights. 

Bubba conceded defeat pretty easily.

That's a bold ass statement

[SIOUXFAN97]

Just now, geaux_sioux said:

That's a bold ass statement

why didn't bubba use his last timeout??? all american return man back there....

[Cratter]

3 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

That's a bold ass statement

I saw no action by Bubba to check the clock.

Coaches job is to do everything he can to give his team the slightest chance to win at the end no matter how small that chance may be.

[geaux_sioux]

1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

why didn't bubba use his last timeout??? all american return man back there....

You sure the clock runs after a made FG?

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

You sure the clock runs after a made FG?

not sure what your asking?

[planet2county]

34 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Although it looks official, and has a decent amount of followers for it, I don't believe it is.

Click on the twitter feed.  It is not an official UND twitter account.

@UNDmbasketball  is the twitter account.

 

[mksioux]

3 hours ago, homer said:

Sitting behind Richnonds bench that play gave them life.  The long pass shortly after gave them energy and momentum.  I get what your saying but a three and out there would have absolutely crushed them.  Game of emotion

I noticed the exact same thing.  Richmond was down and dejected coming off the field.  After that, they got new life.  You could see the bounce get back in their step.  There was a multitude of reasons whey they lost that game, but this was more than a simple 5 yard penalty.  The running into the punter started it all.  It's kind of like the Buckner or Bartman plays.  There were other reasons why those teams lost, but those are the plays everyone will remember.  I feel like this game will be remembered as the running into the kicker game.  

[The Sicatoka]

7 minutes ago, planet2county said:

Click on the twitter feed.  It is not an official UND twitter account.

@UNDmbasketball  is the twitter account.

 

The owner of that Twitter feed is clearly someone with need for greater substance in their existence. 

[Cratter]

10 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

not sure what your asking?

Richmond and UND each had one timeout left and the clock was running down from about 20...Richmond waited and called timeout at 3 seconds (enough not for a return kickoff). A heads up opposing coach calls timeout at 5 or 6 seconds left..the sweet spot where there is time left to get a return kickoff yet not enough time for Richmond to run two plays (the kick was converted on 3rd down).

Outcoached.

[mksioux]

I can understand not letting them score.  It probably would have been the smarter play, but Bubba is old school and I don't blame him for defending every inch.  But why he didn't use his last timeout to force a kickoff after the go-ahead field goal is a bit of a head scratcher.  

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, Cratter said:

Richmond and UND each had one timeout left and the clock was running down from about 20...Richmond waited and called timeout at 3 seconds (enough not for a return kickoff). A heads up opposing coach calls timeout at 5 or 6...the sweet spot where there is time left to get a return kickoff yet not enough time for Richmond to run two plays (the kick was converted on 3rd down.)

well put...yes bubba should have played coy and boom timeout with 5 or 6 secs...exactly like you said maybe not enough time for richmond to run two plays but enough for santiago to GO!!!

[Wilbur]

27 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

since i too busy being threatened by numerous ushers near the end of the game i just realized and read in the heraldo that bubba  decided to hold onto his last timeout for the offseason???  r u kidding...so he decides not to call a timeout with at least nine seconds or so to either make them run another play or leave a couple seconds left for a kickoff when you have an allamerican return man??? really bubba?

I think the world of Bubba, but you have to let them score there.  As soon as they got inside the ten you let them score and have a timeout left and about a minute to try and tie the football game.

Better scenario....Eighteen yard field goal with no time left, or a minute left with one timeout needing a touchdown to tie game?  Our offense wasn't great, but in that situation it's a better option. 

[UNDBIZ]

I believe UNDhoops posts here and is usually pretty reasonable. Emotions from blowing that lead can get the best of you. 

As far as the game goes, I'm not sure what Rudolph's goal was in the second half, but the play calling made zero sense with the success Brady O was having on the ground. Also, I've heard Kostich is a very good coach, but special teams was a huge liability for the team this season. 

Time to learn from this and take the next step in 2017.

[nodakvindy]

47 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

 

They're close, they're a couple players, a couple plays, a couple experiences away, but they're top 16 close, not top four close and that's what it takes to win championships. 

This is Washington Nationals thinking.  you have to grab for the brass ring because you never know when those chances are going to come.  

this team could easily have been the 97 hockey team.  if they'd won yesterday you head to EWU.  a win there and you are hosting a national semifinal.  not easy but a ring was there for the taking.

[BigGame]

5 hours ago, AJS said:

It's all situational. The definitely were good enough on the drive you were talking about, the were getting 7 yards running up the middle every single first down. They were in field goal range on first down when the call was made. I agree if running up the middle wasn't working, but it was. 

My point is that if you don't threaten and hopefully have some level of success doing a few different things eventually the opposing team will stop it the one thing you do or are doing well.  

[fightingsioux4life]

15 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

This is Washington Nationals thinking.  you have to grab for the brass ring because you never know when those chances are going to come.  

this team could easily have been the 97 hockey team.  if they'd won yesterday you head to EWU.  a win there and you are hosting a national semifinal.  not easy but a ring was there for the taking.

Really? The idea that this team will now take a dive and not get another chance at the "brass ring" is pure overreaction. Come on Vindy, I know you and you are smarter than that. The point Sicatoka was making is that Bubba's house isn't finished yet and yesterday was another painful reminder of that fact. Two steps forward; one step back. That is how programs evolve. Did NDSU's loss at EWU in 2010 ruin their future prospects? No, and neither will what happened yesterday ruin our future prospects.

[SIOUXFAN97]

and to think that extra week made our coaches rusty?

[planet2county]

35 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

well put...yes bubba should have played coy and boom timeout with 5 or 6 secs...exactly like you said maybe not enough time for richmond to run two plays but enough for santiago to GO!!!

So Bubba calls timeout at 6 seconds.  Richmond doesn't burn time out.   Holder mishandles snap.  Richmond calls timeout.  Richmond sets up for kick on 4th down.

All the second guessing in the world is going to change the result.

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 minutes ago, planet2county said:

So Bubba calls timeout at 6 seconds.  Richmond doesn't burn time out.   Holder mishandles snap.  Richmond calls timeout.  Richmond sets up for kick on 4th down.

All the second guessing in the world is going to change the result.

call it at 4 or 5...whatever leaves one second on the clock for a kickoff...better than nothing. stupid to take that TO to the offseaon. and yes a kickoff would have changed the game...WE MIGHT HAVE WON! #leavenotimeouts

[Cratter]

6 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

call it at 4 or 5...whatever leaves one second on the clock for a kickoff...better than nothing. stupid to take that TO to the offseaon. and yes a kickoff would have changed the game...WE MIGHT HAVE WON! #leavenotimeouts

No second guessing needed. We know if bubba calls timeout at 4 or 5 seconds. UND would have had a kickoff return attempt and likely something they have practiced before.

[geaux_sioux]

55 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

not sure what your asking?

Are you sure the clock doesn't automatically stop after a made kick?