Popular Post mksioux Posted December 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2016 One of the most awful games I've ever attended. I'm still at a loss of what I just witnessed. This will go down as the worst meltdown in UND history. Maybe UND has blown bigger leads statistically, but this was the biggest meltdown anyway. Richmond made a few plays, but this is on UND all the way. The way this went down, I'm not sure I buy into the learning experience silver lining being talked about. This game is nothing but bad. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodcon Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Man that was brutal, I was giving updates to a UND guy stuck at a wedding and it was painful in the 4th quarter, going to take a while to shake that one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksioux Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 It's almost like Kostich felt like he had to get a blocked punt because they came close to blocking one on the first punt. Situation be damned, he was going to get a block. But should Bubba get a pass? Doesn't the head coach decide whether to bring pressure there, or is that exclusively the decision of the special teams coordinator? The reverse made no sense. UND is leading comfortably, moving the ball, and eating clock, and you call a trick play reverse running out your only viable QB to block, lose 10 yards, kill the drive, and give Richmond momentum? It was bizarre. I know it was just one play, but the stupidity of it set the table for what was to come. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 1 hour ago, nodakvindy said: Goes down with 2009 hockey loss to UNH and 0.6 as most brutal losses as fan. and like the UNH loss seemed like it came from playing not to lose. Painful lesson to take into next season. wouldnt mind learning from a win once in a while. There was a terrible MBB playoff choke in the 4th quarter, like gave up 20+ point lead. Listened to this thing on the radio, like a game in Washington or ?. The opponents never lead till last shot of game. Everything went wrong at one point till the finish line, like here today. This one started with bad call on the should of been first down, then running into the kicker, then the ? Bla bla bla. I try find that MBB game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxknocka Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 i watched the whole f'n game on my phone fromy seat in MSG. It essentially ruined the win in the hockey game for me. Im not as down on the running into the kicker penalty as I should be because I figured it was karma making up for the screw job the play before to Richmond on the spot. Richmond had the first down but it was super frustrating watching how after the penalty, Richmond marched down and scored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: There was a terrible MBB playoff choke in the 4th quarter, like gave up 20+ point lead. Listened to this thing on the radio, like a game in Washington or ?. The opponents never lead till last shot of game. Everything went wrong at one point till the finish line, like here today. This one started with bad call on the should of been first down, then running into the kicker, then the ? Bla bla bla. I try find that MBB game. Virginia Union, March of '91. And that's a pretty accurate analogy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Well !@#$. We were curb stomping them and !@#$ our pants. The WRs had major drop issues. That cost us the game. The running into the kicker changed everything. That cost us the game. Hunt getting burnt over and over and over. That cost us the game. Crowd going flat like the team when the momentum had shifted. That cost us the game. Most of all just not getting the job done in general cost us the game. I'm extremely proud of this team and the history they made but God damn it they are better than what they sowed in that second half. It had nothing to do with coaching. Guys were in position and failed to make plays they were capable of. This was a massive choke job. In the end, it's still blatantly obvious that not having a single speed wr hurts the offense. They don't need to worry about the deep ball and can come down to stuff the run and defend the intermediate pass. We just aren't a complete team yet. The depth is almost there and things are absolutely headed in the right direction. We lost our mojo with all the time off.... now we have 9 months to get it back. If the coached can add a couple of things to this team in the secondary, at QB, and at WR then next year will be a fun one. The silver lining in all of this was @GreenWing and I heckled Richmond's coach Rocco so bad before the game that he ran right over to us after the win to talk some !@#$. We got under his skin about the Delaware job and he didn't forget us. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I was sick for a week after that flop, I don't think I ever saw a choke like that one. There were so many many things that all had to happen the wrong way, and all in a row, for that loss to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 16 minutes ago, mksioux said: The reverse made no sense. UND is leading comfortably, moving the ball, and eating clock, and you call a trick play reverse running out your only viable QB to block, lose 10 yards, kill the drive, and give Richmond momentum? It was bizarre. I know it was just one play, but the stupidity of it set the table for what was to come. Great point, and one I had almost completely forgotten. I, too, was scratching my head over the reverse, but it still doesn't hold a candle to the asinine decision to bring pressure on the punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 We also need a better kicker. If we had a kicker that could kick from 55 yards we could have won even with all of the other mistakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, Shawn-O said: Virginia Union, March of '91. And that's a pretty accurate analogy nailed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Two positives for me: 1. There was no next home game on the line, so for all that UND ended up farting away, it didn't lose that. 2. Attendance...Grand Forks showed up in a big way, and there was undeniably a great vibe in there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodakvindy Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 19 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: There was a terrible MBB playoff choke in the 4th quarter, like gave up 20+ point lead. Listened to this thing on the radio, like a game in Washington or ?. The opponents never lead till last shot of game. Everything went wrong at one point till the finish line, like here today. This one started with bad call on the should of been first down, then running into the kicker, then the ? Bla bla bla. I try find that MBB game. Elite eight vs Virginia Union on team with Scott Guldseth. Possibly beat UND team ever and was capable of winning national title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksioux Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: Two positives for me: 1. There was no next home game on the line, so for all that UND ended up farting away, it didn't lose that. 2. Attendance...Grand Forks showed up in a big way, and there was undeniably a great vibe in there. Yep, lots of new fans too. (I heard a "Studsberg" reference in the row behind me.) But with the way the game went down, I'm not sure if the attendance and new fans was a good thing. I dont really mean that I suppose, but man it's frustrating. You build all year for this game, you get a great crowd, new fans engaged, and that's the product you leave them with. It seems like the good programs break through there. Heck, Go out and lose a respectable game in Cheney next week and call it a successful season. This doesn't sit right at all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet2county Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I wish the UND players and staff well as they move forward with their endeavors on the field and off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 55 minutes ago, HawkinNutts said: Team and coaches capped the bed in the 2nd half. 1.Started with idiotic running into the kicker. not the greatest call here, but kids need to understand the situation of the game (and coaches need to coach them to understand it) 2. After shoving the ball with olivera, (not Santiago ) down their throats, we go for an effing reverse!! and lose 10. made zero cents at that point in the game. horrible play call. and sometimes you need to feed the hot hand. Santiago was a non-factor tonight. couldn't stop Brady 3. Stanley looked like !@#$. But didn't help that Keaton couldn't hit the broad side of the barn. too many wide open misses or drops 4. were all their big passes on #16? 5. at the end, shouldve let them score. at least we would've gotten the ball back. Great season but pathetic way to end. Rudolph and the 12 year old kid who is the ST coordinator should be on notice. Agree with all of this besides Keaton, I actually think he played pretty well, besides Mercer and Fiedler nobody else could catch the ball. Toivonen, Stanley and Wanzek are as sure handed as FCS receivers get and they couldn't catch anything tonight. They all dropped easy receptions over and over. The problems UND has had the entire year ended up all coming to bite them at the end. Bubba needs to make changes with the Special teams unit. Them bringing pressure in that situation is unthinkable with anyone that has two brain cells to rub together. The blocked punt was a mess, multiple Richmond players could have blocked that one. On offense you are running the ball down their throats, but decide to do a reverse which made no sense and that ended up losing 7 yards, costing the team at least 3 points. The secondary also needs to get better, too many big plays. I hate calling for coaches jobs, but Rudolph and the Special Teams coordinator need to go. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Day To Be An Eagle Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Damn... Was really hoping for a true Big Sky Championship in Cheney next weekend. Since y'all dodged that, do you mind shipping your half of the regular season trophy to Cheney? EASTERN WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS DEPARTMENTEastern Washington University, 207 Physical Education Building, Cheney, WA 99004 I guess we'll take it from here for the Big Sky conference. Go Eags 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 When you have a young team in a playoff game for the first time in years, it falls on the coaches to make good game decisions. Not so today. This is on the coaches. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 13 minutes ago, Great Day To Be An Eagle said: Damn... Was really hoping for a true Big Sky Championship in Cheney next weekend. Since y'all dodged that, do you mind shipping your half of the regular season trophy to Cheney? EASTERN WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS DEPARTMENTEastern Washington University, 207 Physical Education Building, Cheney, WA 99004 I guess we'll take it from here for the Big Sky conference. Go Eags Go !@#$ yourself. And best of luck the rest of the way. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, Great Day To Be An Eagle said: Damn... Was really hoping for a true Big Sky Championship in Cheney next weekend. Since y'all dodged that, do you mind shipping your half of the regular season trophy to Cheney? EASTERN WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS DEPARTMENTEastern Washington University, 207 Physical Education Building, Cheney, WA 99004 I guess we'll take it from here for the Big Sky conference. Go Eags Go away, troll. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 What bothers me the most about Torrey Hunt are his antics when he make plays that he is expected to make. Look at me! Aren't I great. Let me pound my chest. As Bud Grant use to tell his players. Act like you've been there before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 33 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Well !@#$. We were curb stomping them and !@#$ our pants. The WRs had major drop issues. That cost us the game. The running into the kicker changed everything. That cost us the game. Hunt getting burnt over and over and over. That cost us the game. Crowd going flat like the team when the momentum had shifted. That cost us the game. Most of all just not getting the job done in general cost us the game. I'm extremely proud of this team and the history they made but God damn it they are better than what they sowed in that second half. It had nothing to do with coaching. Guys were in position and failed to make plays they were capable of. This was a massive choke job. In the end, it's still blatantly obvious that not having a single speed wr hurts the offense. They don't need to worry about the deep ball and can come down to stuff the run and defend the intermediate pass. We just aren't a complete team yet. The depth is almost there and things are absolutely headed in the right direction. We lost our mojo with all the time off.... now we have 9 months to get it back. If the coached can add a couple of things to this team in the secondary, at QB, and at WR then next year will be a fun one. The silver lining in all of this was @GreenWing and I heckled Richmond's coach Rocco so bad before the game that he ran right over to us after the win to talk some !@#$. We got under his skin about the Delaware job and he didn't forget us. It was not the crowd's fault!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Just now, Irish said: It was not the crowd's fault!!!!!!! Crowd was great at the beginning but went flat after the blocked punt for the most part. The crowd mirrored the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 14 minutes ago, mksioux said: Yep, lots of new fans too. (I heard a "Studsberg" reference in the row behind me.) But with the way the game went down, I'm not sure if the attendance and new fans was a good thing. I dont really mean that I suppose, but man it's frustrating. You build all year for this game, you get a great crowd, new fans engaged, and that's the product you leave them with. It seems like the good programs break through there. Heck, Go out and lose a respectable game in Cheney next week and call it a successful season. This doesn't sit right at all. If people are going to give up on the program over one disappointing loss, then they probably weren't going to stick with the team anyway. This program is going in the right direction; we just need to build more depth and get our younger guys more experience. They will learn from this painful experience and they won't let it happen again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sioux>Bison Posted December 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2016 The years to come look really good. This team was not good enough to win it all this year anyways and this game will be a great learning experience. Too bad we couldn't play two playoff games this year. This team will now have another chip on their back to motivate them next year. This wasn't the best team UND will have in the future as this team is young and has a ton of potential. i think the missing link that may have helped us was the lack of defensive turnovers. Those really made a difference in the past games. I'm still proud of this team for a great season! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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