If Big Ten Offers UND Should They Join?

[SWSiouxMN]

1 hour ago, Prison_Mike said:

Big deal.  How many professional wrestlers have those schools produced?  You can't tell me the Junk Yard Dog or the Macho Man came from any of those schools.

I don't know...

This guy did alright. Of course the U can stake claim to the G.O.A.T (I didn't know he lived in Edina, which explains his high styling, profiling, jet flying, limousine riding lifestyle... cake eater  )

[siouxkid12]

Shelton Benjamin and Verne gagne both wrestled at the U.

[ericpnelson]

All great wrestlers are from parts unknown

[SWSiouxMN]

16 minutes ago, ericpnelson said:

All great wrestlers are from parts unknown

I prefer Truth or Consequences, New Mexico.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Two guys rolling around on the floor groping each other and trying to dominate, or as I like to call it, the average movie rental by Johnboy.

[GFG]

11 hours ago, scpa0305 said:

I was in the "absolutely not" crowd until ND joined.  From a pure hockey standpoint we are a big school.  Other teams in the NCHC build good team by selecting over-agers, kids who peaked later and didn't receive an offer from a bigger school (MN, Mich, ND, UND, etc.).  I am afraid that we get left out of this conference (filled with the bigger schools and in our recruiting territory) that we would be forced to eventually change our recruiting strategy to older players.  What happens when they do lower the age?  This is all pure speculation I simply don't like where all this is going. 

UND won't have to worry about that. With Ralph's donation of the arena, the top of the line amenities and facilities and their commitment to hockey there's absolutely no way that UND will ever "get left behind" or be forced to recruit other players. UND, Minnesota, BC, BU etc are the Alabama, Ohio State, Oregon etc of college football. They're the blue bloods and will almost surely be around the top forever with some of the inevitable down years tossed in.

11 hours ago, JohnboyND7 said:

I believe a UM-TC fan already explained that is not a real concern.  Only happens like once a year or something similar.

Correct. Sunday games or whatever are extremely rare. Almost every single one of them was because of the school having a home football game that weekend (which has been going on for years even at Minnesota), but it's non-conference play during that time. UND could continue operations as is. They may have the very occasional Thursday game, but it's extremely rare. Minnesota had one this year and I'm pretty sure it's only because it allowed BTN to have both end of season MN-MI games televised that week. I can deal with one per year.

[GFG]

7 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:

In some cases, wrestling overshadows hockey.

Hockey is no higher than #3 in popularity at any B1G school, including Minnesota. Hockey is popular but isn't even close to football and basketball in popularity. The only B1G school that can probably claim hockey is their 2nd most popular sport is Penn State. Right now that's a for sure. If their basketball team improves it won't be true.

That's just how it is. Football and basketball at B1G schools are marketed in arguably the top conference in college sports and those sports are televised to far larger audiences much more often than hockey.

[siouxkid12]

3 minutes ago, GFG said:

Hockey is no higher than #3 in popularity at any B1G school, including Minnesota. Hockey is popular but isn't even close to football and basketball in popularity. The only B1G school that can probably claim hockey is their 2nd most popular sport is Penn State. Right now that's a for sure. If their basketball team improves it won't be true.

That's just how it is. Football and basketball at B1G schools are marketed in arguably the top conference in college sports and those sports are televised to far larger audiences much more often than hockey.

Pretty sure I've said that numerous times but people still like to think otherwise. 

[SiouxVolley]

10 minutes ago, GFG said:

Hockey is no higher than #3 in popularity at any B1G school, including Minnesota. Hockey is popular but isn't even close to football and basketball in popularity. The only B1G school that can probably claim hockey is their 2nd most popular sport is Penn State. Right now that's a for sure. If their basketball team improves it won't be true.

That's just how it is. Football and basketball at B1G schools are marketed in arguably the top conference in college sports and those sports are televised to far larger audiences much more often than hockey.

Hockey seems to be the only thing that makes gophers riot in Dinkytown, so there's that.

[ArchyAlum11]

2 hours ago, GFG said:

Hockey is no higher than #3 in popularity at any B1G school, including Minnesota. Hockey is popular but isn't even close to football and basketball in popularity. The only B1G school that can probably claim hockey is their 2nd most popular sport is Penn State. Right now that's a for sure. If their basketball team improves it won't be true.

That's just how it is. Football and basketball at B1G schools are marketed in arguably the top conference in college sports and those sports are televised to far larger audiences much more often than hockey.

And yet Minnesota is also terrible at football and basketball.

[Cratter]

8 hours ago, GFG said:

 The only B1G school that can probably claim hockey is their 2nd most popular sport is Penn State. Right now that's a for sure. If their basketball team improves it won't be true.

1. Wrestling

2.Hockey

3. Football

[Cratter]

8 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:

Pretty sure I've said that numerous times but people still like to think otherwise. 

He quoted you about wrestling overshadowing hockey.

And then said hockey doesn't overshadow wrestling. 

[Blackheart]

10 hours ago, GFG said:

Correct. Sunday games or whatever are extremely rare. Almost every single one of them was because of the school having a home football game that weekend (which has been going on for years even at Minnesota), but it's non-conference play during that time. UND could continue operations as is. They may have the very occasional Thursday game, but it's extremely rare. Minnesota had one this year and I'm pretty sure it's only because it allowed BTN to have both end of season MN-MI games televised that week. I can deal with one per year.

You're saying the Gofers have a football team?  When did this happen? 

[petey23]

12 hours ago, ericpnelson said:

All great wrestlers are from parts unknown

Pampiro Firpo! "The Wild Bull of the Pampas"

[JohnboyND7]

2 minutes ago, petey23 said:

Pampiro Firpo! "The Wild Bull of the Pampas"

Randy "The Viper" Orton.

[runaroundsioux]

3 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said:

Randy "The Viper" Orton.

Wahoo McDaniels.

[petey23]

14 hours ago, Prison_Mike said:

Big deal.  How many professional wrestlers have those schools produced?  You can't tell me the Junk Yard Dog or the Macho Man came from any of those schools.

Larry "The Axe" Henning--Gophers

Iron Mike Dibiase--Nebraska

Rick Steiner-Michigan

Bob Backlund--NDSU...not Big 10, but local

Randy Gust---UND...another local who jobbed a few matches in the old WWF

[The Sicatoka]

The Baron von Raschke. 

The claw. 

[runaroundsioux]

We used to put "the claw" on each other when we were kids. All Star Wrestling. Saturday nights.

[Sioux>Bison]

I just got some inside news. NDSU will be joining the big ten conference in all sports including hockey. I'm not sure what other teams will be moving to the big ten.

Now we are going to need to find a new arena to hold regional tourneys.

[The Sicatoka]

46 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:

I just got some inside news. NDSU will be joining the big ten conference in all sports including hockey. I'm not sure what other teams will be moving to the big ten.

Now we are going to need to find a new arena to hold regional tourneys.

You're a week ahead.

[SWSiouxMN]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

The Baron von Raschke. 

The claw. 

Dat is all da people need to know!

[The Sicatoka]

Hawks. Claw. ... 

Baron von Mascot!

[choyt3]

5 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

The Baron von Raschke. 

The claw. 

He used to substitute teach in Park Rapids.

[SiouxVolley]

Changed my mind and think the B1G will stay at seven and isn't going after Ariz St.  Seven can work for the B1G, especially for their strange scheduling patterns.  PLus Ariz St isn't a proven hockey program and they don't have a permanent rink yet and the B1G doesn't take rentals if more PAC12 program s appear.  Furthermore, Ariz St Coach Powers was quoted as saying they have two conference offers, not three.  The WCHA has officially offered Ariz St and the NCHC would certainly offer them.  That leaves no offer from the B1G.  The B1G can't afford another bad program and 24 conference games would be perfect so that keeps plenty of non-conference games on the schedule.

Another reason is that Bowling Green wants out of the WCHA but hasn't started a CCHA with the western AHA teams.  BGSU would prefer to be with Miami and W Mich in the NCHC and they will be the choice to add with  Ariz St  So that keeps another league from forming, which would be bad for Miami and W Mich regionally.  Miami and W Mich will get another closer rival for low travel games while UND, DU, and CC will get a big name western school.  Everybody will be happy in the NCHC.