2017 UND Recruiting

[nodak651]

3 minutes ago, Parkers Pros said:

Have to wonder if they think about moving Heidlebaugh? A freak of an athlete. Or this was insurance because they don't know what they have. Is it August yet???

Doubt it.  That is probably the thinnest position we have.  

[geaux_sioux]

29 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Doubt it.  That is probably the thinnest position we have.  

I'm beginning to think that he's a natural lefty and doesn't know it yet. That's the only way I can come to terms with his delivery.

[UNDMOORHEAD]

Is Zimmerman now the bridge from Studs to Boltmann?

[geaux_sioux]

41 minutes ago, UNDMOORHEAD said:

Is Zimmerman now the bridge from Studs to Boltmann?

That would be ideal. The only time we should have 3-4 year starters is if they're a generational talent. 

[The Sicatoka]

7 hours ago, UNDMOORHEAD said:

Is Zimmerman now the bridge from Studs to Boltmann?

That's what I was thinking. In fall of 2017: 

Studsrud Sr
Heidelbaugh So
Zimmerman So
Bolinski RFr
Boltmann Fr 

[gundy1124]

9 hours ago, Parkers Pros said:

Have to wonder if they think about moving Heidlebaugh? A freak of an athlete. Or this was insurance because they don't know what they have. Is it August yet???

Won't happen this year, he will be battling for the back-up spot.  If Zimmerman and Boltman pan out really well with a serviceable 3rd option then maybe in 2018.  I feel we just can't career him at back-up QB.

[SooToo]

18 hours ago, nodak651 said:

I think this is him.  Looks like a solid #2 next year IMO. 

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/7678438/57f19e303bd8143784594d60

Why not #1? Can't imagine this guy, with the clock ticking on 3 years of eligibility, is coming in with any other expectation than competing to be the #1 guy. This coaching staff's mantra since they were hired has been that no one's guaranteed a starting position. After this season ended, Bubba, IIRC, identified QB play as one of three areas that needed improvement. Don't know Studsrud personally, but he strikes me as a high character guy who's respected by his team mates. His biggest attribute on the field, aside from leadership, is that he doesn't seem to make a lot of costly mistakes. But I suspect his mobility will be limited in the future due to injuries, and in terms of overall play I think UND was just average this year at the QB position.

 

[nodak651]

8 minutes ago, SooToo said:

Why not #1? Can't imagine this guy, with the clock ticking on 3 years of eligibility, is coming in with any other expectation than competing to be the #1 guy. This coaching staff's mantra since they were hired has been that no one's guaranteed a starting position. After this season ended, Bubba, IIRC, identified QB play as one of three areas that needed improvement. Don't know Studsrud personally, but he strikes me as a high character guy who's respected by his team mates. His biggest attribute on the field, aside from leadership, is that he doesn't seem to make a lot of costly mistakes. But I suspect his mobility will be limited in the future due to injuries, and in terms of overall play I think UND was just average this year at the QB position.

 

I sure hope he could come in and be the #1 guy.  IMO, he would need to be head and shoulders above Studsrud, otherwise there would be a huge QB controversy the first time the kid plays an off game, and that is never good for a team.  Studsrud has shown that he can get the job done, but I agree that this is an area that we could improve.

[ND1]

Studsrud is an average QB, good game manager and will be the starter in 2017.  Zimmerman will probably be the man in 2018. 

[southpaw]

27 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

I sure hope he could come in and be the #1 guy.  IMO, he would need to be head and shoulders above Studsrud, otherwise there would be a huge QB controversy the first time the kid plays an off game, and that is never good for a team.  Studsrud has shown that he can get the job done, but I agree that this is an area that we could improve.

But Sioux sports was so much fun when people were complaining every day about Molberg and Bartels. 

[UNDColorado]

1 minute ago, ND1 said:

Studsrud is an average QB, good game manager and will be the starter in 2017.  Zimmerman will probably be the man in 2018. 

This is my take as well, but looking forward to getting a look at Zimmerman in spring ball.

[FlinFlan80]

I would think they roll with Stuts again this year, with Zimmerman as a quality backup. Would not be surprised at all if Brad H. gets moved to TE or WR. I would guess this will give him this spring to show any possible development as a QB and if he isn't as promising as they once hoped, he is moved. Bolinski throws a nice balls and is crafty, just a lack of size. He will develop into a quality backup and Boltman coming in is promising too.

[UNDBIZ]

19 hours ago, nodak651 said:

I think this is him.  Looks like a solid #2 next year IMO. 

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/7678438/57f19e303bd8143784594d60

Dude can sling it on the move.  Looks solid.

[Sioux94]

5 minutes ago, FlinFlan80 said:

I would think they roll with Stuts again this year, with Zimmerman as a quality backup. Would not be surprised at all if Brad H. gets moved to TE or WR. I would guess this will give him this spring to show any possible development as a QB and if he isn't as promising as they once hoped, he is moved. Bolinski throws a nice balls and is crafty, just a lack of size. He will develop into a quality backup and Boltman coming in is promising too.

Don't we already have 5 billion TE's on the roster and have recruited 2 more in this class?  I doubt he gets moved from QB this year, like another poster said that is one of our thinnest (and most important) positions and unless Bolinski really steps it up to beat out Brad as the number 3, and even then I don't think it happens.  The last thing we would want to do is burn Boltman's redshirt to play one half of football if we ran into injuries.   Zimmerman seems like the perfect pickup, 3 years left so he can bridge the gap to Boltman and also enough experience to play right away if needed.  Our offense dictates the QB to run a little and you hate to have the QB run completely off the table because you are so afraid of getting him hurt.  Not saying Keaton should run 15 times a game, but 6-7 times a game.....yes. 

[petey23]

The biggest benefit for UND would be if Zimmerman came in and established himself as at least 1B which would allow UND to give Keaton the green light to run when the option is there more often as it was obvious they had him on a short leash this season due to the lack of a back-up qb they were confident in.

[UND-1]

5 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

Don't we already have 5 billion TE's on the roster and have recruited 2 more in this class?  I doubt he gets moved from QB this year, like another poster said that is one of our thinnest (and most important) positions and unless Bolinski really steps it up to beat out Brad as the number 3, and even then I don't think it happens.  The last thing we would want to do is burn Boltman's redshirt to play one half of football if we ran into injuries.   Zimmerman seems like the perfect pickup, 3 years left so he can bridge the gap to Boltman and also enough experience to play right away if needed.  Our offense dictates the QB to run a little and you hate to have the QB run completely off the table because you are so afraid of getting him hurt.  Not saying Keaton should run 15 times a game, but 6-7 times a game.....yes. 

Not really, no.   We were down to a banged up Mathewson (sr), Fiedler, Mollberg (sr), and Cloyd at the end of the year.  Pinke redshirted.

So, UND has three TE's coming back and plays two damn near all game.  Devore might be a TE but still could move back to DE.  They need at least two more TE's in this class.

[nodak651]

2 minutes ago, UND-1 said:

Not really, no.   We were down to a banged up Mathewson (sr), Fiedler, Mollberg (sr), and Cloyd at the end of the year.  Pinke redshirted.

So, UND has three TE's coming back and plays two damn near all game.  Devore might be a TE but still could move back to DE.  They need at least two more TE's in this class.

Just curious, anybody know how many snaps Cloyd averaged per game after they pulled his shirt? 

[geaux_sioux]

3 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Just curious, anybody know how many snaps Cloyd averaged per game after they pulled his shirt? 

He had an eye injury or something that held him out.

[geaux_sioux]

6 minutes ago, UND-1 said:

Not really, no.   We were down to a banged up Mathewson (sr), Fiedler, Mollberg (sr), and Cloyd at the end of the year.  Pinke redshirted.

So, UND has three TE's coming back and plays two damn near all game.  Devore might be a TE but still could move back to DE.  They need at least two more TE's in this class.

Two more in this class? Hell no. We need more OL before we consider another TE.

[UND-1]

5 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Two more in this class? Hell no. We need more OL before we consider another TE.

Didn't know it was one or the other.

[geaux_sioux]

8 minutes ago, UND-1 said:

Didn't know it was one or the other.

We don't have a ton of spots yet and we're good at TE for now. OL is the priority along with the secondary.

[UND-1]

1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said:

We don't have a ton of spots yet and we're good at TE for now. OL is the priority along with the secondary.

UND plays two TE's for the majority of the game.  You are good with having four total?  That is with Devore being a TE, which is still not a for sure thing.

[UNDBIZ]

6 minutes ago, UND-1 said:

UND plays two TE's for the majority of the game.  You are good with having four total?  That is with Devore being a TE, which is still not a for sure thing.

Is Francis gone?  With the type of OL UND has been recruiting lately (good frames but needing to add weight), we could see more OL recruits who don't pan out transition to blocking TEs.

[UND-1]

Just now, UNDBIZ said:

Is Francis gone?  With the type of OL UND has been recruiting lately (good frames but needing to add weight), we could see more OL recruits who don't pan out transition to blocking TEs.

Yes.  Heard he had to hang it up for medical reasons.  

[The Sicatoka]

20 hours ago, nodak651 said:

I think this is him.  Looks like a solid #2 next year IMO. 

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/7678438/57f19e303bd8143784594d60

On a couple of his throws to the left (across his body) he didn't elevate his elbow and slung it a bit. But it wasn't all the time. I suspect he's had some work on his mechanics and he reverts at times.