Bison06 Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, CMSioux said: History has shown this not to be true. Just wondering how you find time to monitor UNI and SDSU fan sites so you can defend every su comment made. I grew up in North Dakota and consider UND to be NDSU’s primary rival, those schools don’t concern me so I don’t comment there.
Siouxphan27 Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Bison06 said: Stop bringing us into it with “juicers” comments and Juice U and I’d be happy to stay away. Pathetic that you have to monitor this site, and then respond and defend, anything said that might trigger your fragile psyche. Not even half a day after our season ended you're on here demanding people answer your questions regarding when will UND beat NDSU again. The river is freezing over; so get out of your douche canoe, come on shore, and walk yourself over to Bozoville. 4
Bison06 Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Siouxphan27 said: Pathetic that you have to monitor this site, and then respond and defend, anything said that might trigger your fragile psyche. Not even half a day after our season ended you're on here demanding people answer your questions regarding when will UND beat NDSU again. The river is freezing over; so get out of your douche canoe, come on shore, and walk yourself over to Bozoville. Learn to read before you pop off like a child. Another poster brought up the topic.
Siouxphan27 Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: Learn to read before you pop off like a child. Another poster brought up the topic. Wow less than 2 minutes. How's the water? And no, Sherlock, you were the one demanding answers to your stupid question.
Bison06 Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Siouxphan27 said: Wow less than 2 minutes. How's the water? And no, Sherlock, you were the one demanding answers to your stupid question. I know technology is tough for you boomers, but it is possible to set up alerts on your phone when people respond.
Siouxphan27 Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bison06 said: I know technology is tough for you boomers, but it is possible to set up alerts on your phone when people respond. Plus, I imagine you have nothing else to do while sitting in your canoe. 1 1
nd1sufan Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said: FCS programs are largely “development” programs . Yes the occasional guy is recruited who the B1G overlooked but that is rare. NDSU does not recruit many highly rated recruits. It’s impossible at FCS level. Our development is deficient. For that reason I voted D.(would have gone C- if that was available). While yes you are correct that NDSU doesn't get many "highly recruited" athletes, if you mean P5 kids, they do get a few kids every year that have G5 FBS offers with the occasional 1 or 2 P5 offers every year. If you would add up the FBS offers that NDSU recruits sign every year and the other FCS offers that UND signs every year, my guess is the FBS offers to NDSU kids outnumbers the other FCS offers for UND signees. How many of the 20 or so commits UND has so far this year have other D1 offers? 4? While I agree the S&C coaching has a large impact on the program, the 2 schools are starting off with a different level of athlete. It still amazes me that Bubba and his staff didn't offer Lance coming out of high school. That would concern me about Bubba and his staffs eye for talent. 1
Midwestern Hawk Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 35 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: While yes you are correct that NDSU doesn't get many "highly recruited" athletes, if you mean P5 kids, they do get a few kids every year that have G5 FBS offers with the occasional 1 or 2 P5 offers every year. If you would add up the FBS offers that NDSU recruits sign every year and the other FCS offers that UND signs every year, my guess is the FBS offers to NDSU kids outnumbers the other FCS offers for UND signees. How many of the 20 or so commits UND has so far this year have other D1 offers? 4? While I agree the S&C coaching has a large impact on the program, the 2 schools are starting off with a different level of athlete. It still amazes me that Bubba and his staff didn't offer Lance coming out of high school. That would concern me about Bubba and his staffs eye for talent. FCS schools don’t get any “highly recruited”athletes, unless one considers FBS drop-downs. Just the nature of the beast.
nd1sufan Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Midwestern Hawk said: FCS schools don’t get any “highly recruited”athletes, unless one considers FBS drop-downs. Just the nature of the beast. Some FCS schools get kids that have several FBS offers, but no, they aren’t getting any 4or 5 star kids with Bama or Clemson offers. Not what you are calling “highly recruited” kids. I would call a kid with say 10 D1 offers highly recruited vs a kid with just 1 D1 offer.
nd1sufan Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Midwestern Hawk said: FCS schools don’t get any “highly recruited”athletes, unless one considers FBS drop-downs. Just the nature of the beast. So are you saying Bubba is getting the same kind of FB player and athlete as NDSU and other top FCS schools and the S&C program just isn’t doing their job? 1
bison73 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Midwestern Hawk said: FCS schools don’t get any “highly recruited”athletes, unless one considers FBS drop-downs. Just the nature of the beast. What is a FBS drop down????
JohnboyND7 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said: FCS schools don’t get any “highly recruited”athletes, unless one considers FBS drop-downs. Just the nature of the beast. The Ivies get a few.
Midwestern Hawk Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 5 hours ago, bison73 said: What is a FBS drop down???? Sam Houston State was loaded with guys who started careers at FBS schools and decided for one reason or another to drop down to FCS. Does not guarantee they were highly recruited, but much more likely. FCS guys are NOT highly recruited unless you consider multiple FCS offers or a couple of G5 offers highly recruited. When a guy has a p5 offer and ends up at FCS(yes even mighty NDSU), the P5 “offer” was not committable.
Bison06 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said: Sam Houston State was loaded with guys who started careers at FBS schools and decided for one reason or another to drop down to FCS. Does not guarantee they were highly recruited, but much more likely. FCS guys are NOT highly recruited unless you consider multiple FCS offers or a couple of G5 offers highly recruited. When a guy has a p5 offer and ends up at FCS(yes even mighty NDSU), the P5 “offer” was not committable. So you know for a fact that Easton Stick’s offer at Rutgers and Seth Anderson’s offer at Kansas were non-committable? Or are you just speculating?
nd1sufan Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 26 minutes ago, Bison06 said: So you know for a fact that Easton Stick’s offer at Rutgers and Seth Anderson’s offer at Kansas were non-committable? Or are you just speculating? And when Missouri offered Radunz and Boise State (I know they are not technically P5), offered Lance, both a week or less before signing day, those schools offered but said we don’t actually want you?
Midwestern Hawk Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 46 minutes ago, Bison06 said: So you know for a fact that Easton Stick’s offer at Rutgers and Seth Anderson’s offer at Kansas were non-committable? Or are you just speculating? Unless I was a member of Seth Anderson family or his HS coach or on Kansas staff there is no way I would know for a fact. I DO know Kansas has 10 offers out for SDE ends. Do you think they are all committable? Stop while you are ahead. Here is the list of Kansas offers. Do you think they have 1000 schollies? You think the top of their board for SDE was Anderson? https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Season/2020-Football/Offers/ 1
Midwestern Hawk Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: And when Missouri offered Radunz and Boise State (I know they are not technically P5), offered Lance, both a week or less before signing day, those schools offered but said we don’t actually want you? I know that if a P5 school wanted Radunz, offered him and had built a relationship he would NOT be at NDSU.
Bison06 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 56 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: Unless I was a member of Seth Anderson family or his HS coach or on Kansas staff there is no way I would know for a fact. I DO know Kansas has 10 offers out for SDE ends. Do you think they are all committable? Stop while you are ahead. Here is the list of Kansas offers. Do you think they have 1000 schollies? You think the top of their board for SDE was Anderson? https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Season/2020-Football/Offers/ All I’m saying is you are the one claiming to know something for a fact when you just stated there is no possible way for you to know that information.
UNDhoops Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Bison06 said: So you know for a fact that Easton Stick’s offer at Rutgers and Seth Anderson’s offer at Kansas were non-committable? Or are you just speculating? No idea about Stick but I have a pretty good idea of where Anderson ranked on the list of KU targets
Shawn-O Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, UNDhoops said: No idea about Stick but I have a pretty good idea of where Anderson ranked on the list of KU targets https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Season/2020-Football/Offers/ Midwestern Hawk's link confirms that ranking. I'm learning things! 1
Bison06 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Shawn-O said: https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Season/2020-Football/Offers/ Midwestern Hawk's link confirms that ranking. I'm learning things! You mean because he is listed last? I'm not saying you're wrong, but there is no way an online service would be able to accurately rank recruits at a certain position. ONLY coaches would be privy to where they have each player ranked on their board.
Shawn-O Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bison06 said: You mean because he is listed last? I'm not saying you're wrong, but there is no way an online service would be able to accurately rank recruits at a certain position. ONLY coaches would be privy to where they have each player ranked on their board. Sure. But it's someone's ranking. Confirm was a strong word.
Siouxphan27 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bison06 said: You mean because he is listed last? I'm not saying you're wrong, but there is no way an online service would be able to accurately rank recruits at a certain position. ONLY coaches would be privy to where they have each player ranked on their board. Everyone knows every player who ends up at ndsu was ranked #1 at their position on all the other schools' boards. 1 1
Midwestern Hawk Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Everyone knows every player who ends up at ndsu was ranked #1 at their position on all the other schools' boards. Until today I just assumed it was just board’s in FCS recruiting offices .....turns out it includes FBS too. 1
UNDhoops Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bison06 said: You mean because he is listed last? I'm not saying you're wrong, but there is no way an online service would be able to accurately rank recruits at a certain position. ONLY coaches would be privy to where they have each player ranked on their board. I’m not trying to be message board guy here but I went to KU and know people associated with the program, etc.
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