dagies Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 That's 2 now because I thought the last one linked on this site a couple of days ago was pretty reasonable as well Quote
The Sicatoka Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 That's 2 now because I thought the last one linked on this site a couple of days ago was pretty reasonable as well Holy cow! You're right. That is two. The Herald reasonable twice ... < passes out, falls to floor > Quote
FSSD Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 How does Sun Dog pass the test - have they looked at the urban dictionary meaning of Sun Dog Quote
Emerald joker Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 How does Sun Dog pass the test - have they looked at the urban dictionary meaning of Sun Dog If I say the Sundog name offends me can it be taken off the list? Quote
MafiaMan Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 If I say the Sundog name offends me can it be taken off the list? No. You'll just be branded a Confederate flag-waving racist insensitive close-minded Sioux Forever Tea Partier. Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:University of North Dakota Nickname Committee AgendaTuesday, July 21, 20156 p.m.Twamley Hall, Room 404 or call Jill Novotny or Katrina Kriewall for call-in information (701.777.2038) 1. Review meeting minutes 2. Review trademark information about suggested names remaining on list 3. Discussion of additional information about suggested nicknames remaining on list 4. Further discussion of suggested nicknames 5. Other business as arises --30-- If they are going to review trademark information does that mean that they are going to finally realize the Dallas Stars are only going to sell us the rights to north stars for a huge sum of money? I don't know why it's on the list if we will have to buy the rights from someone Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Tomorrow will be interesting, that's for sure. Hope for the best, expect the worst. Quote
Hayduke Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Tomorrow will be interesting, that's for sure. Hope for the best, expect the worst. I agree. They could veer off agenda and do just about anything... yeah, the paranoids are out to get me. Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 I will maintain that the finalists will come from these 4. Roughriders North Stars Sundogs Nodaks How many they take will be up to them (heck they could take all 4). Quote
Hayduke Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 I will maintain that the finalists will come from these 4. Roughriders North Stars Sundogs Nodaks How many they take will be up to them (heck they could take all 4). I wonder if they kill off the no nickname option tomorrow? Quote
Fetch Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 I wonder if they kill off the no nickname option tomorrow? I hope not Quote
CMSioux Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 I predict the "North Dakota" option comes off the table based on a well-researched recommendation from the "Urban Dictionary" consulting firm. I can hear them "We've determined the word "north" depicts a cold barren place and the word "Dakota" depicts native american imagery." Quote
jdub27 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 I wonder if they kill off the no nickname option tomorrow? It was only two votes away from happening at the last meeting. Quote
Teeder11 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 My gut is that "North Dakota" stays on the short list (however many that is). And it will be the winner after a public vote, with Rough Riders being a distant but sizable runner up. However, despite its popularity in the public voting, I don't see Kelley choosing "North Dakota," and, lest we forget, Kelley is the end-all-be-all final determiner in all of this. I don't see him picking it due to the myriad reasons that have been hashed and rehashed on here and in the media over the past few months, including its marketability disadvantages, the presumption that it provides a vacuum that would be filled by the banned nickname, and the sense that all it does is kick the can down the road a few more month, years, etc., preventing any kind of real resolution for the school, its student athletes and the new president. Again, I could be totally wrong in all of this. I will be anxious (in the truest sense of the word) to see how this all plays out. Quote
mksioux Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 My gut is that "North Dakota" stays on the short list (however many that is). And it will be the winner after a public vote, with Rough Riders being a distant but sizable runner up. However, despite its popularity in the public voting, I don't see Kelley choosing "North Dakota," and, lest we forget, Kelley is the end-all-be-all final determiner in all of this. I don't see him picking it due to the myriad reasons that have been hashed and rehashed on here and in the media over the past few months, including its marketability disadvantages, the presumption that it provides a vacuum that would be filled by the banned nickname, and the sense that all it does is kick the can down the road a few more month, years, etc., preventing any kind of real resolution for the school, its student athletes and the new president. Again, I could be totally wrong in all of this. I will be anxious (in the truest sense of the word) to see how this all plays out. It would be much easier to kill off "North Dakota" now than it would be to reject it after winning a popular vote. It may be mildly controversial to kill it off now, but people would move on. If Kelley rejects the "will of the people" after a public vote, it would be extremely controversial. My prediction is that "North Dakota" doesn't make it to a vote and Kelley will adopt whatever option wins the public vote. If he doesn't, people will consider the whole process to be a sham and the new nickname will not have legitimacy. If the end goal is finality, that would be a disaster. Quote
Teeder11 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 It would be much easier to kill off "North Dakota" now than it would be to reject it after winning a popular vote. It may be mildly controversial to kill it off now, but people would move on. If Kelley rejects the "will of the people" after a public vote, it would be extremely controversial. My prediction is that "North Dakota" doesn't make it to a vote and Kelley will adopt whatever option wins the public vote. If he doesn't, people will consider the whole process to be a sham and the new nickname will not have legitimacy. If the end goal is finality, that would be a disaster. I hope you are right. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 So our great and wise marketing consultant can surf UrbanDictionary.com but doesn't see the problem with marketing " ". (That's no nickname.) Quote
Teeder11 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 So our great and wise marketing consultant can surf UrbanDictionary.com but doesn't see the problem with marketing " ". (That's no nickname.) True. My hunch is that the consultant is not a big fan of "North Dakota," either, and that its staying power with the committee has to do with certain members who are being persuaded by public input (nothing wrong with that). I have not seen any media quotes or tweets that have stated one way or another how Kelly O'Keefe and Padilla view just "North Dakota," nor have I heard any at the two meetings that I was in attendance. Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 This intire circus of a process with all these online submissions, forming of multiple committees, holding meetings, hiring consultants, etc was to reach one goal; To select a new nickname. Much time. money, and effort have been spent in this process. Now do you really think that after this entire process, UND is going to decide to go with no nockname? What a waste!! For that reason and the fact that it barely made it to this round, my prediction is that "North Dakota" will be cut tonight. 2 Quote
dagies Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 My gut is that "North Dakota" stays on the short list (however many that is). And it will be the winner after a public vote, with Rough Riders being a distant but sizable runner up. However, despite its popularity in the public voting, I don't see Kelley choosing "North Dakota," and, lest we forget, Kelley is the end-all-be-all final determiner in all of this. I don't see him picking it due to the myriad reasons that have been hashed and rehashed on here and in the media over the past few months, including its marketability disadvantages, the presumption that it provides a vacuum that would be filled by the banned nickname, and the sense that all it does is kick the can down the road a few more month, years, etc., preventing any kind of real resolution for the school, its student athletes and the new president. Again, I could be totally wrong in all of this. I will be anxious (in the truest sense of the word) to see how this all plays out. mksioux pretty much addressed this already but I'll echo the sentiment. I think it would be foolish of Kelley to allow no nickname to remain an option if he would not intend to let it stand. And I agree that it legitimately turns the whole process into a fraud if this option is left on the table throughout this process only to be killed by executive veto. "no nickname" is different from other nickname suggestions in that it's really a different reality. It is a vote for nothing rather than a vote for something tangible. Therefore, still following the rules of the process, Kelley could have ruled "no nickname" as not an option at the beginning of the process. He didn't and therefore he will, i believe, live with the consequences. The only reason he won't is if during this whole process he's had a change of heart on whether it's smart to end up with "no nickname" and is just hoping evolution weeds eventually weeds out the option. Quote
Teeder11 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 mksioux pretty much addressed this already but I'll echo the sentiment. I think it would be foolish of Kelley to allow no nickname to remain an option if he would not intend to let it stand. And I agree that it legitimately turns the whole process into a fraud if this option is left on the table throughout this process only to be killed by executive veto. "no nickname" is different from other nickname suggestions in that it's really a different reality. It is a vote for nothing rather than a vote for something tangible. Therefore, still following the rules of the process, Kelley could have ruled "no nickname" as not an option at the beginning of the process. He didn't and therefore he will, i believe, live with the consequences. The only reason he won't is if during this whole process he's had a change of heart on whether it's smart to end up with "no nickname" and is just hoping evolution weeds eventually weeds out the option. Great points! We shall see. Quote
MafiaMan Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Everyone's so focused on "just North Dakota," which sets the stage for Sundogs to make the final cut. 2 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 My prediction: In this long sequence of wacky, unpredictable twists and turns, and strange moves, and no moves, I predict one more thing that none of us saw coming. 1 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 My prediction: In this long sequence of wacky, unpredictable twists and turns, and strange moves, and no moves, I predict one more thing that none of us saw coming. Kelley decides to un-retire? "Big Cocks" makes a move up the leaderboard? scpa0305 crashes the meeting, reveals he is actually a GFC grad and gets tossed from the meeting because he won't stop yelling "Go Ridas"! ............am I close on any of these? 2 Quote
darell1976 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 I wonder if they kill off the no nickname option tomorrow? I hope so. Quote
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