UNDBIZ Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Why was Springfest cancelled? Kelley doesn't approve of alcohol...... or general merriment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 They dropped the word "Fighting" from the name. Also, I've heard that the tribe is extinct, or at least no longer an organized/recognized group, thus no one had to approve of the name, but that could be bad info flowing in... They still use Fighting Illini. They made a claim that the term Fighting Ilini referred to Illinois residents that fought in World War I, and had some evidence that the term was used in that context. The tribe has not existed for a while. They had to drop their NA mascot and all references to Native Americans. Getting rid of all NA references was enough to get off the NCAA list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Kelley doesn't approve of alcohol...... or general merriment. He claims that UND's rep as a party school will ruin its reputation much like the University of Colorado has for being a party school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Kelley doesn't approve of alcohol...... or general merriment.Alcohol I understand but do not mess with my MERRIMENT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 In the mind of President Kelley, the nickname issue is/was nothing more than a nuisance. Kelley does not want to be preoccupied with university athletic issues; he has very little interest in university athletics and his mindset has impeded the potential progress of UND athletics. Huh, that flies in the face of everything that the current UND Football staff has said about President Kelley and his wife. They raved about both of them when discussing recruiting and how they participate in the weekend official visits. Marcia does a great job selling the university to recruits, as does President Kelley during this speeches. Almost seemed like they go out of there way to help promote the university to the football recruits, which they do not have to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Why was Springfest cancelled? gfhockey is out of town when it was scheduled. Wasn't really a money-maker with the decrease in alcohol sales knowing he wouldn't be attending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 At Disney World's Magic Kingdom.....just saw Mickey and Minnie holding a banner "Fire Kelley". My youngest wearing her "Forever Sioux" t-shirt gave them a thumbs up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 At Disney World's Magic Kingdom.....just saw Mickey and Minnie holding a banner "Fire Kelley". My youngest wearing her "Forever Sioux" t-shirt gave them a thumbs up.It's a small world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the green team Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Huh, that flies in the face of everything that the current UND Football staff has said about President Kelley and his wife. They raved about both of them when discussing recruiting and how they participate in the weekend official visits. Marcia does a great job selling the university to recruits, as does President Kelley during this speeches. Almost seemed like they go out of there way to help promote the university to the football recruits, which they do not have to do. Wo, Wo, whoa. I too have been told this by a member of the football staff. But careful, you don't want to let facts and people who deal regularly with President, get in the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I think Illinois just removed all references to Indians and now use Illini as a reference to a resident of Illinois. They dropped the word "Fighting" from the name. Also, I've heard that the tribe is extinct, or at least no longer an organized/recognized group, thus no one had to approve of the name, but that could be bad info flowing in... They still use Fighting Illini. They made a claim that the term Fighting Ilini referred to Illinois residents that fought in World War I, and had some evidence that the term was used in that context. The tribe has not existed for a while. They had to drop their NA mascot and all references to Native Americans. Getting rid of all NA references was enough to get off the NCAA list. THIS was the crux of the issue at Illinois...and they're still the Fighting Illini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Time Hockey Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 THIS was the crux of the issue at Illinois...and they're still the Fighting Illini.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq4KpDhFZVM That's what pisses me off! Schools like this with NA nicknames put fuel on the fire for anti-nickname PC zealots. I remember when I was younger having NA's from the state coming out before a handful of games and performed. To me it was done in a respectful manner and I personally felt a sense of pride being from a university that honored the local Native American tribes. This ended however. I don't know if there was a fall out with the university and the local tribes, or if it was the start of the undermining of the nickname by those folks such as Jeannotte and company. Regardless, I do not recall the time when UND ever acted like the Illini, FSU, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGreyAnt41 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 The difference with Illinois, though, is that permission for the nickname and dance were given by the local tribe. The person doing the dance might not have been Native American, but they were taught how to properly do the dance by the local tribe. It wasn't just somebody out there jumping around, it was done correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Chief Illiniwek is officially retired at Illinois. That video is historic only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Actually one of the old boys thinks he will make more off off sale as they can't buy $5 beer in the park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Actually one of the old boys thinks he will make more off off sale as they can't buy $5 beer in the park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Kelley doesn't approve of alcohol...... or general merriment. Does anyone know when the next Merrimentics Anonymous meeting is? I feel I should go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxjoy Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Why was Springfest cancelled? Kelley doesn't approve of alcohol...... or general merriment. He claims that UND's rep as a party school will ruin its reputation much like the University of Colorado has for being a party school Nevermind the fact that Springfest is a city event and not a UND function that Kelley has control over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Nevermind the fact that Springfest is a city event and not a UND function that Kelley has control over... Kelley lobbied the city council to not issue the liquor permits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Kelley doesn't approve of alcohol...... or general merriment. No merriment? How about frolicking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Kelley lobbied the city council to not issue the liquor permits. And the city has been more and more reluctant to issue the permits each year. That event has been on borrowed time for close to a decade. It almost got cancelled after the couches got burned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 No merriment? How about frolicking? Only on Saturdays (excluding the weekends before finals) between the hours of 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 And the city has been more and more reluctant to issue the permits each year. That event has been on borrowed time for close to a decade. It almost got cancelled after the couches got burned. Unfortunately for the do-gooders, house parties don't need a liquor permit. I'm somewhat excited to see what happens when there isn't an organized effort in the park to contain some of the madness. I almost expect to see new city ordinances banning the consumption of alcohol in front yards by individuals under 30 soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Unfortunately for the do-gooders, house parties don't need a liquor permit. I'm somewhat excited to see what happens when there isn't an organized effort in the park to contain some of the madness. I almost expect to see new city ordinances banning the consumption of alcohol in front yards by individuals under 30 soon. As sad as it is, considering the city's loud party ordinance can be enforced at any time of the day anytime there are 2 or more people gathered together, I think there will be some sort of record set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Unfortunately for the do-gooders, house parties don't need a liquor permit. I'm somewhat excited to see what happens when there isn't an organized effort in the park to contain some of the madness. I almost expect to see new city ordinances banning the consumption of alcohol in front yards by individuals under 30 soon. A lot of ways for the police to break up private parties. They will be very busy that weekend. Not having a public event will probably stop some of the out-of-towners from coming to party. And I think the city already has some public consumption laws in place that will be enforced that weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 As sad as it is, considering the city's loud party ordinance can be enforced at any time of the day anytime there are 2 or more people gathered together, I think there will be some sort of record set. Huh, I didn't realize that applied any time of day. I guess the city council is already on top of it. I believe you will be proven correct regarding the record-breaking afternoon. Dealing with court dates, lawyers, and several hundred dollar fines should help the students to achieve very fine results on their finals that week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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