Siouxperman8 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Bartels did a nice job but wasn't perfect either. Joe was 7/8 and has had two pretty good games in a row and has been steadily improving. I would stick with Joe. Quote
gfhockey Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 We are unsure about the choice but are supporting bubs 100 percent. Our coachinnchoice sure turned around the program quick Quote
Oxbow6 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 And for those saying that Bartels was only successful against a weak Portland State defense, remember that UND didn't exactly light it up offensively against Stony Brook or Robert Morris. But then who does against the best FCS defense in the nation? 1 Quote
ericpnelson Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 But then who does against the best FCS defense in the nation? i always... Quote
UNDColorado Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 But then who does against the best FCS defense in the nation? According to the stats Stony Brook has a pretty good defense: http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MFB&division=12 They are top five in: Total Defense, Rushing Defense, Passing Yards Allowed, Scoring Defense, 3rd down conversion %, and 4th down conversion %. They happen to be number 1 in total defense category. 1 Quote
UND1983 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 According to the stats Stony Brook has a pretty good defense: http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MFB&division=12 They are top five in: Total Defense, Rushing Defense, Passing Yards Allowed, Scoring Defense, 3rd down conversion %, and 4th down conversion %. They happen to be number 1 in total defense category. No, they are terrible because all the FCS genius's on this board have never heard of them. Anyone who actually watched them play would understand. 1 Quote
Cratter Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Bartels threw for a touchdown and ran for another (1-yard goal line plunge). It was the first time all season in which UND’s offense has scored twice in one game. It's unfathomable one would even consider starting the other guy! 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 According to the stats Stony Brook has a pretty good defense: http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MFB&division=12 They are top five in: Total Defense, Rushing Defense, Passing Yards Allowed, Scoring Defense, 3rd down conversion %, and 4th down conversion %. They happen to be number 1 in total defense category. It's time for people to put the Stony Brook "jokes" to bed because apparently those assertions made earlier when UND played SB weren't so off after all. Stony Brook is a lot like UND; really good defense with a really bad offense. Quote
Cratter Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 It's time for people to put the Stony Brook "jokes" to bed because apparently those assertions made earlier when UND played SB weren't so off after all. Stony Brook is a lot like UND; really good defense with a really bad offense. Is UND's offense really bad? Or is the other teams defense's really good?! Quote
gfhockey Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Relax ladies the Gogc is taking apps go join them The Gobc is membership only. Meaning you have to be recruited to be in the club Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Is UND's offense really bad? Or is the other teams defense's really good?! UND's offense is pretty bad. There have been some sparks to indicate we may be able to pass the ball. Rushing O is awful. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Is UND's offense really bad? Or is the other teams defense's really good?! 16 points vs. Robert Morris Shut out vs Missouri State 6 offensive pts vs Stony Brook 11 offensive pts vs Montana State 8 offensive pts vs. Montana UND's offense has work to do. Scoring 24 against Portland State was nice to see, but even 7 of those came via special teams and the QB who orchestrated it all is now going back to the bench. Lots of work left for the UND offense to do. 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Relax ladies the Gogc is taking apps go join them The Gobc is membership only. Meaning you have to be recruited to be in the club Can we complete the app using any color crayon or is crayola blizzard blue the standard? Quote
gundy1124 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Relax ladies the Gogc is taking apps go join them The Gobc is membership only. Meaning you have to be recruited to be in the club Age requirements? Probably a drinking initiation? Quote
Oxbow6 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Age requirements? Probably a drinking initiation? Vaild driver's license and clean criminal record optional................... Quote
gfhockey Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 I'm not sure on the gogc But the Gobc is invite only Requirements are secret Quote
Cratter Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Every opportunity Bartles have been given, he has beaten or excelled vs Mollberg. One half this year Bartles beat Mollberg to scoring two touchdowns in one game. (Scoring Touchdowns = Pretty Important). Last year Bartles Set UND freshman records in completions (39), attempts (59) and yards (367) and touchdowns (4) at Northern Arizona (Nov. 2) . Last year Bartles threw more Touchdown than Mollberg despite playing less games. And we are already seeing a pattern of that this year. My guess is Bartles must be pretty cocky and the coaching staffs don't like that. We have a massive body of work comparing the two in game situations and one clearly comes out on top. Any one got one statistic showing Mollberg is better? 1 Quote
UND92,96 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 16 points vs. Robert Morris Shut out vs Missouri State 6 offensive pts vs Stony Brook 11 offensive pts vs Montana State 8 offensive pts vs. Montana UND's offense has work to do. Scoring 24 against Portland State was nice to see, but even 7 of those came via special teams and the QB who orchestrated it all is now going back to the bench. Lots of work left for the UND offense to do. Wasn't the first score (a field goal) led by Mollberg? I was thinking that was the drive he was injured, and that Bartels came in for the last play or two. Not sure on that, I guess. In any event, it's certainly true that the third quarter was probably the best the UND offense has looked this year. But I really can't second-guess Rudolph or Bubba if they are very hesitant to make a change of the starting quarterback based upon one quarter. At an absolute minimum, I think Mollberg gets the first half of the SUU game to show what he can do against a defense roughly the same caliber as Portland St. (on paper, anyway). If things go really poorly, Bartels may very well get another shot in the second half. EDIT: I looked back at the boxscore, and the first scoring drive was 76 yards, and all of the yards were when Mollberg was in there. I realize that isn't going to change anybody's mind. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 The Gobc is membership only. Meaning you have to be recruited to be in the club Let me know when you want an instant upgrade to the gobc...just PM me. Quote
TBR Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 I lean towards giving starting Bartles but I am not on the coaching staff and I don't oversee practices. It sounds to me like the coaching staff sees Mollberg as having the greater upside even though Bartles is producing the best result at this point in time. My concern is that Bartles transfers out to somewhere where he can be the starter and it then takes Mollberg's junior and senior year for the staff to realize he never will realize his "upside". 1 Quote
UNDvince97-01 Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 According to the stats Stony Brook has a pretty good defense: http://stats.ncaa.org/rankings?sport_code=MFB&division=12 They are top five in: Total Defense, Rushing Defense, Passing Yards Allowed, Scoring Defense, 3rd down conversion %, and 4th down conversion %. They happen to be number 1 in total defense category. Now why do ya gotta go do that?... This type of thing isn't allowed in a discussion like this. Having said that, we will see if it holds. Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 I lean towards giving starting Bartles but I am not on the coaching staff and I don't oversee practices. It sounds to me like the coaching staff sees Mollberg as having the greater upside even though Bartles is producing the best result at this point in time. My concern is that Bartles transfers out to somewhere where he can be the starter and it then takes Mollberg's junior and senior year for the staff to realize he never will realize his "upside". Or.... Neither one starts next year 2 Quote
Irish Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 I lean towards giving starting Bartles but I am not on the coaching staff and I don't oversee practices. It sounds to me like the coaching staff sees Mollberg as having the greater upside even though Bartles is producing the best result at this point in time. My concern is that Bartles transfers out to somewhere where he can be the starter and it then takes Mollberg's junior and senior year for the staff to realize he never will realize his "upside". If Bartles doesn't get the next start the coaching staff is basically telling him "hey kid stick around here and ride the pine because you will never get a chance to start no matter what you do". Wouldn't blame Bartles if he told the coaches to pound sand right now and transfered. 4 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 I lean towards giving starting Bartles but I am not on the coaching staff and I don't oversee practices. It sounds to me like the coaching staff sees Mollberg as having the greater upside even though Bartles is producing the best result at this point in time. My concern is that Bartles transfers out to somewhere where he can be the starter and it then takes Mollberg's junior and senior year for the staff to realize he never will realize his "upside". #buttpractice 1 Quote
UNDColorado Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Now why do ya gotta go do that?... This type of thing isn't allowed in a discussion like this. Having said that, we will see if it holds. It appears I stirred the pot this morning with some facts I am also interested to see if their defense holds. They do have a terrible offense but as it stands they have a top tier defense and it bothered me to see some posters disregard them because they are simply not familiar with them. I honestly wasn't surprised that we had difficulty moving the ball against them. I still think they will end up being the toughest defense we play all year. Our offense seems to be steadily improving and I do not care who plays QB as long as they compete and deliver when needed. If we can continue to improve on offense then we have a good shot of putting up some points because I believe the toughest defenses in SB and Montana, are behind us. (Missouri State we just played like a steaming pile so tough to gauge that D) 1 Quote
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