CMSioux Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Been a lot of buzz over the years about the ethics associated with a school contacting a player who has already verbally committed to another school. Seem to remember that at least one UND football recruit got a phone call from another school's coach after they had verbally committed to UND. Now the shoe is on the other foot and it seems they don't like it. I know I've read in Sports Illustrated stories that the big schools have no problem continuing to contact players who have verballed. Quote
UNDColorado Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Been a lot of buzz over the years about the ethics associated with a school contacting a player who has already verbally committed to another school. Seem to remember that at least one UND football recruit got a phone call from another school's coach after they had verbally committed to UND. Now the shoe is on the other foot and it seems they don't like it. I know I've read in Sports Illustrated stories that the big schools have no problem continuing to contact players who have verballed. As SFI pointed out in a recent tweet, there is not a D1 staff in the country who doesn't do this. Is what it is. Quote
Csonked Out Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 It is a practiced method, but there would be those here throwing stones if NDSU was doing it to us. I have never had a problem with it. Everyone is fair game until they sign on the dotted line Quote
NDSIOUXFAN1 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Usually when a recruit has verballed, that is when other schools turn up the heat. Every school is trying to steal a recruit from someone else, it is just part of the game. Quote
Shawn-O Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 So why even verbal? Why not wait until signing day? Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Some will take it farther. Rumor is after Kleinsasser called Rocky to tell him that had verbaled to UND, Rocky called Wyoming and talked him up, hoping they would offer and Jimmy would take a full ride over his commitment to UND. Quote
darell1976 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 The article in the Forum says Bohl and Taylor has a deal where if Bohl leaves he can't take any verbal players away from NDSU for ONE year (which is now the 2014 season). Taylor mentions ethics (IMO he has none ex. player arrests) and how he trusts Bohl. NDSU president wanted 2 years but Taylor said one was enough. With no penalty in the agreement I would think any player is fair game until the dotted line is signed. Offseason will be interesting. Quote
ericpnelson Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I remember in the Joe Mollberg article (maybe someone can find it, GF Herald), that Joe had verballed to UND, then NDSU won the title and Bohl called him asked him if he was sure about that. Maybe I'm wrong but there was like a 3 part article about Joe Mollberg's recruitment. I think if fans of either school get upset about it, it's kind of throwing stones in a glass house. Quote
Csonked Out Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 The article in the Forum says Bohl and Taylor has a deal where if Bohl leaves he can't take any verbal players away from NDSU for ONE year (which is now the 2014 season). Taylor mentions ethics (IMO he has none ex. player arrests) and how he trusts Bohl. NDSU president wanted 2 years but Taylor said one was enough. With no penalty in the agreement I would think any player is fair game until the dotted line is signed. Offseason will be interesting. I have heard that part of the contract is unenforceable as it should be. It's just false hope... Quote
jdub27 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Off the top of my head in the last two years: -Mollberg committed to UND and Bohl called him from TCF Bank stadium right before the UM game shortly after anyway. -Joe Schobert was committed to UND and NDSU came after him hard after a summer all-star game even though there was no prior offer. He turned NDSU down. UW also came after him and ultimately got him. Not going to hold the UW thing against him, any kid who is committed at the FCS and gets a local B1G offer is going to take it. Don't know if there was more. Not all that concerned about it. It happens and will continue to happen. Quote
CMSioux Posted January 9, 2014 Author Posted January 9, 2014 I remember in the Joe Mollberg article (maybe someone can find it, GF Herald), that Joe had verballed to UND, then NDSU won the title and Bohl called him asked him if he was sure about that. Maybe I'm wrong but there was like a 3 part article about Joe Mollberg's recruitment. I think if fans of either school get upset about it, it's kind of throwing stones in a glass house. I also head the Bohl/Moberg story but only Joe knows if that is true. Also heard from a parent of a UND player that FU coaches contacted recruits and said if they played for FU they would guarantee they played for a national championship (and that was during their 20 year playoff hosting drought.). Quote
FargoBison Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Anyone is fair game until signing day. Quote
darell1976 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 http://www.inforum.c...9/group/Sports/ Klieman said this week NDSU has between 13 and 17 verbal commitments. There are currently 15 reported verbals. Signing day is Feb. 5, the first day athletes can make it official. UND has 4 so far...is that low at this point of the offseason or is NDSU's 15 reported verbals average to high. Quote
jdub27 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I also head the Bohl/Moberg story but only Joe knows if that is true. I can assure you it is true. It was printed in a story done about his recruiting story. Note that the "soft verbal" was because Mussman told him he completely understands if Iowa was to come in with an offer that Joe would take it. “Last night Joe made probably the most difficult and adult phone call he has ever made. He called NDSU to tell them that at this time they are No. 3 on his list of schools. It was tough to do, but he handled it well. He truly likes NDSU and all they have done and offered but it just has not seemed the ‘right fit.’ Saturday: Joe traveled to UND where he attended the UND game honoring the 2001 National Championship team. After the game Joe went into the locker room with the team and informed the coaches that he was making a ‘soft verbal’ commitment to UND. The coaches were ecstatic and there were hugs and high fives all around the locker room. Three of the coaches then came out to find Patty and myself and ‘welcome us to the UND family.’ It was an exciting time for Joe and you could just see the months of indecision and torment fall from his shoulders.” But NDSU’s Bohl still would make his final pitch that same evening, calling Mollberg and leaving a voice message, thus proving he is always the recruiter. “At 6 p.m. on Saturday night, the NDSU Bison played the Gophers at TCF. Coach Bohl left a voice message saying, “Joe, this is Coach Bohl... I am standing on the 50-yard line at TCF... etc... etc...” Quote
WeAreNorthDakota Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Like it or not a D1 coach who gives up after a verbal is at a disadvantage. Quote
UND Fan Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 http://www.inforum.c...9/group/Sports/ UND has 4 so far...is that low at this point of the offseason or is NDSU's 15 reported verbals average to high. SU's 15 is high but they: 1) are on a roll and 2) have a bunch of scholarship $ available. Frankly, I am surprised we have four verbals without a coaching staff until recently. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 ... have a bunch of scholarship $ available. I'm wondering if UND didn't have a bunch come available in the last couple of weeks also. Quote
Hawkster Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 http://www.inforum.c...9/group/Sports/ UND has 4 so far...is that low at this point of the offseason or is NDSU's 15 reported verbals average to high. I think they're high and we are low, I said that a month ago already. I doubt we'll get much more in the way of verbals before signing day. What ever we get will sign on the dotted line of Feb 5 I'm not worried about the numbers we get a signing, but little concerned on quality. The uncommitted crowd seems to be getting pretty picked over and I'm thinking this years class will be down. Next year will be better with a different recruiting philosophy. 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Funny thing is we're not as low as 4 and 5 years ago for recruiting. That was the lowest point by far. Quote
smokey the cat Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 For us football challenged when is signing day? Quote
Westside Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 For us football challenged when is signing day? Feb. 5 Quote
sioux24/7 Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 It's like Christmas X10 Exactly my thoughts! Quote
nd1sufan Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I also head the Bohl/Moberg story but only Joe knows if that is true. Also heard from a parent of a UND player that FU coaches contacted recruits and said if they played for FU they would guarantee they played for a national championship (and that was during their 20 year playoff hosting drought.). Kind of like UND coaches telling players they were going to play at Hawaii and be building a new outdoor stadium? Well I guess NDSU recruits did get to play for a National Championship......... Quote
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