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On 2/26/2024 at 5:13 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said:

Nobody thought the MAC had UMass lined up until the school presidents voted on it.  Likewise, Fenton isn't going to broadcast anything that isn't official.  Is anything lined up?  We will find out.

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10 minutes ago, Yote 53 said:

The only path to G5 for the Dakota schools is a few Summit schools merge with the Big Sky schools in Montana, Idaho and a few others creating an entirely new conference.  Throw out the NCAA rules about establishing an FBS conference.  Take them to court and you'll win on anti-trust grounds.  They've lost every court case they've been challenged on lately.

The MAC is not moving this far west and CUSA is way too stretched out.  The best idea is the most obvious, that similar schools with similar goals in a similar geographic region (West) get together to form their own conference.

I've been thinking this myself for a long time.

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Potential Division I G5 Conference

UND

NDSU

SDSU

USD

Montana

Montana St.

St. Thomas

Northern Iowa

Denver

Omaha

-Eight teams with FB, two without.

-Seven game conference FB schedule. Plenty of room for G5 non-conference games and P5 money games.

Travel partners for MBB and WBB:

-UND/NDSU

-SDSU/USD

-Montana/Montana St.

-St. Thomas/Northern Iowa

-Denver/Omaha

Thoughts?

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50 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Potential Division I G5 Conference

UND

NDSU

SDSU

USD

Montana

Montana St.

St. Thomas

Northern Iowa

Denver

Omaha

-Eight teams with FB, two without.

-Seven game conference FB schedule. Plenty of room for G5 non-conference games and P5 money games.

Travel partners for MBB and WBB:

-UND/NDSU

-SDSU/USD

-Montana/Montana St.

-St. Thomas/Northern Iowa

-Denver/Omaha

Thoughts?

That is a great group.

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1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Potential Division I G5 Conference

UND

NDSU

SDSU

USD

Montana

Montana St.

St. Thomas

Northern Iowa

Denver

Omaha

-Eight teams with FB, two without.

-Seven game conference FB schedule. Plenty of room for G5 non-conference games and P5 money games.

Travel partners for MBB and WBB:

-UND/NDSU

-SDSU/USD

-Montana/Montana St.

-St. Thomas/Northern Iowa

-Denver/Omaha

Thoughts?

As nice as it would be to have UNI, they won’t leave the the MVC.  St. Thomas will move on to a bigger profile Bball conference also.

Probably need two more western teams to get the Montana’s to bite. Most likely Idaho/Idaho St.  

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50 minutes ago, dmksioux said:

As nice as it would be to have UNI, they won’t leave the the MVC.  St. Thomas will move on to a bigger profile Bball conference also.

Probably need two more western teams to get the Montana’s to bite. Most likely Idaho/Idaho St.  and Weber State

FYP. ;) 

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Here is another version:

Potential Division I G5 Conference 2

UND

NDSU

SDSU

USD

Montana

Montana State

Denver

Omaha

Wyoming

Colorado State

-Eight teams with FB, two without.

-Seven game conference FB schedule. Plenty of room for G5 non-conference games and P5 money games.

Travel partners for MBB and WBB:

-UND/NDSU

-USD/SDSU

-Montana/Montana State

-Wyoming/Colorado State

-Denver/Omaha

Thoughts?

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41 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Here is another version:

Potential Division I G5 Conference 2

UND

NDSU

SDSU

USD

Montana

Montana State

Denver

Omaha

Wyoming

Colorado State

-Eight teams with FB, two without.

-Seven game conference FB schedule. Plenty of room for G5 non-conference games and P5 money games.

Travel partners for MBB and WBB:

-UND/NDSU

-USD/SDSU

-Montana/Montana State

-Wyoming/Colorado State

-Denver/Omaha

Thoughts?

Mountain west schools will not go for this 

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Among the non-CA/NV MWC schools,

MWC haves: Colo St, Air Force, Boise St
MWC have nots: Wyo, Utah St, UNM 

Should* the MWC splt it'll be along that line. 

*do not expect as they have poison pill exit fees

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On 2/27/2024 at 10:31 AM, Kab said:

With St. Thomas location they have a better chance at g5 conference 

I still maintain ndsu would need to move all sports, not just football 

The problem with UST is right now they are non-scholarship football team playing in a DIII stadium. 

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21 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

Well there goes their Summit Hockey invite ;)

Arizona State on line one for you. ;) 

If UST was in the BEast, the NCHC (someday Summit Hockey) would fiind them a slot, just like they did for ASU. 

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Was thinking more along these lines:

Potential Division I G5 Conference 2

UND

NDSU

SDSU

USD

Montana

Montana State

Denver

Omaha

Idaho

Idaho State

Weber State

UNC

10 team football conference playing a 9 game round robin schedule.  12 team conference for all other sports.  Nice geographic fit on two sides with the I-29 corridor on the East and decent fit from Denver to Missoula in the west.

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7 minutes ago, Yote 53 said:

Was thinking more along these lines:

Potential Division I G5 Conference 2

UND

NDSU

SDSU

USD

Montana

Montana State

Denver

Omaha

Idaho

Idaho State

Weber State

UNC

10 team football conference playing a 9 game round robin schedule.  12 team conference for all other sports.  Nice geographic fit on two sides with the I-29 corridor on the East and decent fit from Denver to Missoula in the west.

Not bad. Not bad at all.

Questions I have are:

Would Idaho want to move back into FBS? They dropped down to FCS because they were winning 1 or 2 games each year in FBS.

Would Idaho State want to move up to FBS? They might be willing, but could they afford it?

Would Northern Colorado be able to upgrade their programs to compete at the level of the others? They have been a non-factor since they left Division II.

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I included the Idaho schools because they are State schools and a conference that looks like that, a conference of peer schools, they may be more inclined to move to FBS for that.

May have a good point about UNC.  I included them solely based on location.  They would be interchangeable with somebody else, maybe EWU or NAU.

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