darell1976 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Maybe the Title IX folks need to take a trip 70 miles south of UND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Hammersmith said: Not sure if you don't understand or are being purposefully dense, but fully funded vs. not fully funded is about scholarships. A fully funded program is one that gives out the maximum number of scholarships allowed by the governing body(NCAA DI in our case). Or at least a program that allocates enough money to award all scholarships allowed(sometimes football or WBB might sit on a scholarship or two for recruiting reasons). NDSU has been fully funded across the board for a few years now. I believe men's golf or baseball was the last program to reach that mark. My understanding is that all the women's programs were fully funded from the first day of DI because of Title IX reasons. As for UND, it's been in the news repeatedly over the years that many of your programs are not fully funded. The most detailed and recent info I could find in a few minutes came from about 27 months ago. Things have improved(the Summit League required it), but I believe many programs are still not at 100% funding. I'll look a bit more to see if I can find info from last season. Scholarship funding levels as of the end of 2016-17 season: 100% MIH FB MBB WBB 85-100% VB (closer to 100% than 85%) WSoc 70% (these 3 were required to reach at least 85% by the fall of 2018) WG SB WT&F <70% MG MT&F MT WT https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4242553-und-cuts-womens-hockey-mens-and-womens-swimming Get that crap outta here! LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said: After the Robbins’ comments, is it safe to say Ndsu athletic programs are fully ‘roided? The word you were looking for is "caffeinated". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, bison73 said: The word you were looking for is "caffeinated". Are NDSU's women's teams fully funded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, nodak651 said: Are NDSU's women's teams fully funded? yes they are. Just at a much, much, much lower level than the Men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, bison73 said: The word you were looking for is "caffeinated". Can you provide a source that confirms the illegal substance in the supplement was caffeine? The only confirmation given is that it was a stimulant, which could be a wide variety of things. Still haven't seen NDSU take responsibility for providing the supplement, instead basically calling their former player a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, bison73 said: The word you were looking for is "caffeinated". Got a link proving it was caffeine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said: Got a link proving it was caffeine? Got a link proving it wasn't? Accusations made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Got a link proving it wasn't? Accusations made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. So nothing happened? To recap, a statement was made that hasn't been verified. Somebody asked for verification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Got a link proving it wasn't? Accusations made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. I dont know what the dude tested positive for. It seems odd for anyone to say "it was roids" or "it was caffeine." Maybe bison73 knows something more though. Lots of stuff are on that list of banned substances. At the end of the day it doesnt really matter what made him fail, he was punished and its done now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, JohnboyND7 said: I dont know what the dude tested positive for. It seems odd for anyone to say "it was roids" or "it was caffeine." Maybe bison73 knows something more though. Lots of stuff are on that list of banned substances. At the end of the day it doesnt really matter what made him fail, he was punished and its done now. According to 73 we always need a link to the source of our info. That is his MO. So we would like a link to the source verifying it was caffeine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 24, 2019 Author Share Posted June 24, 2019 I won't make a claim; I'll just say prove (via link) it was caffeine. Until there's a legitimate source that goes on the record, it's all just speculation, innuendo, and hearsay. That said, if it really was as culturally benign as caffeine, why hasn't someone gone on the record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, UND1983 said: So nothing happened? Oh, something happened. But Siouxphan27 is attempting to shift the burden of proof of his accusation of "roid" use at NDSU to Bison73. Bison73 needn't provide any proof to dismiss that claim. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Oh, something happened. But Siouxphan27 is attempting to shift the burden of proof of his accusation of "roid" use at NDSU to Bison73. Bison73 needn't provide any proof to dismiss that claim. I think it's fair game to crack a joke about a rival team football player failing a drug test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said: I think it's fair game to crack a joke about a rival team football player failing a drug test. But not to come back and demand proof that your "joke" isn't true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Oh, something happened. But Siouxphan27 is attempting to shift the burden of proof of his accusation of "roid" use at NDSU to Bison73. Bison73 needn't provide any proof to dismiss that claim. Funny nobody asked for proof it was roids????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Got a link proving it wasn't? Accusations made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Absolutely. And if NDSU chooses to let the speculation linger that it was steroids and not caffeine, that is their choice. It just seems very peculiar to the neutral observer that no one has uttered the word caffeine to prevent all the speculation; every article about it it was referred to as an illegal substance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 24, 2019 Author Share Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, Siouxphan27 said: It just seems very peculiar to the neutral observer that no one has officially uttered the word caffeine to prevent all the speculation; every article about it it was referred to as an illegal substance. FYP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, bison73 said: Funny nobody asked for proof it was roids????? Nobody wants to see proof of your hemorrhoids TMI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, The Sicatoka said: FYP. Right. Only the diehard turd fans have been calling it caffeine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Gothmog said: Oh, something happened. But Siouxphan27 is attempting to shift the burden of proof of his accusation of "roid" use at NDSU to Bison73. Bison73 needn't provide any proof to dismiss that claim. Unless either of them can back it up, then I guess all we have is the certainty that it was a banned stimulant and the confusion on why BR wouldn't have just said it was caffeine when he was interviewed, right before NDSU threw him under the bus and claimed they didn't give it to him despite him stating it came from a trusted staff member. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Absolutely. And if NDSU chooses to let the speculation linger that it was steroids and not caffeine, that is their choice. It just seems very peculiar to the neutral observer that no one has uttered the word caffeine to prevent all the speculation; every article about it it was referred to as an illegal substance. Now you're claiming to know what a "neutral observer" might find peculiar about it? I'm by no means neutral, but the caffeine explanation seems to be, by far, the most likely to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 So UMKC to Summit.... Where does this leave Augie now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Now you're claiming to know what a "neutral observer" might find peculiar about it? I'm by no means neutral, but the caffeine explanation seems to be, by far, the most likely to me. Fact is it wasnt illegal drugs If it were illegal drugs law enforcement would be involved. They were and are not. Plus if it was illegal drugs there would have been no appeal to the NCAA and he would have lost his scholarship of which he didnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: So UMKC to Summit.... Where does this leave Augie now? Ask SV. Hes on speed dial to every university president in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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