bisonh8er Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Lake's birth certificate is an apology letter from the abortion clinic.......that is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 What is "NDSU"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndsubison1 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 The so-called "better team" was not even worthy of being selected to the playoff field. They went into their last regular season game needing a win and laid an egg, yet the committee still found a way to put them in. To their credit, they actually won a couple of games once they got in but the fact remains that based on their regular season performance they did not deserve a playoff berth. Another team that was more deserving got screwed over. I honestly don't remember now who they were, but that is beside the point. The Bison just aren't that good, and they haven't been since 1990. Obviously they aren't terrible, but to suggest that they're better than the team that went on to win the national championship is a reach. i agree we did not look like a playoff team when we lost to missouri state. but our performance in the playoffs throws that out the window. the kansas win got us into the playoffs. ndsu deserved to get in. i will admit we got A LOT of help with teamslike richmond and a few others losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYOBISONMAN Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 i agree we did not look like a playoff team when we lost to missouri state. but our performance in the playoffs throws that out the window. the kansas win got us into the playoffs. ndsu deserved to get in. i will admit we got A LOT of help with teamslike richmond and a few others losing Let's hope Vigen has his s#it together this year...... Back to the original topic of this thread........No annual Bison/Sioux game without being in the same conference. The NDSU fans don't want it. We want OOC games at home, with teams that give the team exposure to some unique competition each year. At times you wind up scheduling some patsy teams (like this year when others reneg on contracts) but the fans like the home games and the tailgate. The Bison fans also want to see one OOC date always played against a BCS opponent. Those games are damn fun......especially when you win. Given that, there is no way there could be an annual Bison/Sioux game. It just is not going to happen. Perhaps in the distant future there will be one here and there, but not an annual game. Most of the whining for an annual match is currently coming from UND fans. I would expect that to die down once you are in Big Sky competition and you have a schedule that does't have NAIA and D2 teams in it. At that point almost no one on either side will want to play every year. And......for those of you that don't think the UNI thing is a nasty rivalry........go to UNI for a Bison UNI game. There is a very high "prick ratio" among their fan base. They are hostile. Now they are envious of how NDSU went much further than they in the playoffs last year. Add that on top of the fact that NDSU took their Defensive Coordinator who is now our Dback coach.......it is pretty ugly. It will be a very hard hitting and nasty game. As for SDSU.......it is fun to beat them, but not the nastiness that is present with UNI. It all kind of surprised me because a few years ago, I would have never guessed the UNI thing would turn into a nasty rivalry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Let's hope Vigen has his s#it together this year...... Back to the original topic of this thread........No annual Bison/Sioux game without being in the same conference. The NDSU fans don't want it. We want OOC games at home, with teams that give the team exposure to some unique competition each year. At times you wind up scheduling some patsy teams (like this year when others reneg on contracts) but the fans like the home games and the tailgate. The Bison fans also want to see one OOC date always played against a BCS opponent. Those games are damn fun......especially when you win. Given that, there is no way there could be an annual Bison/Sioux game. It just is not going to happen. Perhaps in the distant future there will be one here and there, but not an annual game. Most of the whining for an annual match is currently coming from UND fans. I would expect that to die down once you are in Big Sky competition and you have a schedule that does't have NAIA and D2 teams in it. At that point almost no one on either side will want to play every year. And......for those of you that don't think the UNI thing is a nasty rivalry........go to UNI for a Bison UNI game. There is a very high "prick ratio" among their fan base. They are hostile. Now they are envious of how NDSU went much further than they in the playoffs last year. Add that on top of the fact that NDSU took their Defensive Coordinator who is now our Dback coach.......it is pretty ugly. It will be a very hard hitting and nasty game. As for SDSU.......it is fun to beat them, but not the nastiness that is present with UNI. It all kind of surprised me because a few years ago, I would have never guessed the UNI thing would turn into a nasty rivalry. NDSU since moving to the MVFC have always scheduled patsys: 2008 vs Austin Peay, vs Cent. Conn. St. 2009 @ Sam Houston St (not a patsy but then again not at home!) vs Wagner 2010 vs Morgan St, vs South Dakota (regional team) 2011 vs Lafayette, vs St. Francis So until now the only home game that I would not consider a patsy is South Dakota because they used to be in the same conference. Some fans I talk to are sick of the Wagner's and the St. Francis' at the dome and want some "real" teams to play. But GT I think is scared to play UND because he saw the result at the end of the NCC days and he just saw his VB team get waxed in GF and I don't think he could afford his FB to go through the same embarrassment. I know teams back out of deals but it happens. After our first FCS win at Idaho State they backed out of a return game so UND could only schedule Brittney Spears, NDSU has had only 1 game to my knowledge of a backout since 2008. There are some who like cupcakes to get to that magic number of 7 for playoffs, but if you prefer Wagner over UND...go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Dan Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 NDSU since moving to the MVFC have always scheduled patsys: 2008 vs Austin Peay, vs Cent. Conn. St. 2009 @ Sam Houston St (not a patsy but then again not at home!) vs Wagner 2010 vs Morgan St, vs South Dakota (regional team) 2011 vs Lafayette, vs St. Francis So until now the only home game that I would not consider a patsy is South Dakota because they used to be in the same conference. Some fans I talk to are sick of the Wagner's and the St. Francis' at the dome and want some "real" teams to play. But GT I think is scared to play UND because he saw the result at the end of the NCC days and he just saw his VB team get waxed in GF and I don't think he could afford his FB to go through the same embarrassment. I know teams back out of deals but it happens. After our first FCS win at Idaho State they backed out of a return game so UND could only schedule Brittney Spears, NDSU has had only 1 game to my knowledge of a backout since 2008. There are some who like cupcakes to get to that magic number of 7 for playoffs, but if you prefer Wagner over UND...go for it. So you would call UND a powerhouse during their transition? Fact is your AD has had contracts for games and he's decided not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 So you would call UND a powerhouse during their transition? Fact is your AD has had contracts for games and he's decided not to. I am sure we could have given your 3-8 team of '09 a tough game. But thats right you guys only want home games. Thats why you guys will never win a national title...you have to play OUTSIDE the Fargodome. 0-2 at the Alerus is a not impressive! Please state the reference to this "fact"? And don't give me a link to Bisonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota fairways Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Admit to being too lazy to find the proper thread to post this. Had to chuckle at this post on championshipsubdivision.com about JBB's incessant rambling about the Dakota Big 3. You might even want to note that the thread has nothing to do with the Bison, but JBB has brought the Dakota Big 3 into the discussion once again, and this is a response from a Northern Iowa fan. *Does not include the prestigious University of North Dakota, who have an illustrious history of beating the **** out of the Dakota 3. Only "real wins" matter to this great school. The "moral victories" are for the Dakota Big 3 to celebrate. #1 EWU @ USD Discussion & Game Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Admit to being too lazy to find the proper thread to post this. Had to chuckle at this post on championshipsubdivision.com about JBB's incessant rambling about the Dakota Big 3. You might even want to note that the thread has nothing to do with the Bison, but JBB has brought the Dakota Big 3 into the discussion once again, and this is a response from a Northern Iowa fan. #1 EWU @ USD Discussion & Game Thread That guy gets reps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate listening this Big 3 crap by JBB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Does anyone else get a stomach ache having to read paragraph after paragraph about ndsu on a Fighting Sioux fan board. Please, we really aren't interested in details, history, chest puffing about your team, we have moved on. We are also tired of the many predictions of doom su zealots love to share - NCAA death penalty, getting kicked out of the Big Sky, etc. This is a UND FIghting Sioux Fan Board and this thread was not intended to give a platform for trying to convince us how much better/smarter/larger/younameit ndsu is than UND. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 That guy gets reps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate listening this Big 3 crap by JBB. He wants you to get angry. Don't let him. The people on the CS board know who he and what he is and deal with him on a daily basis. They debunk 99% of his posts. Don't bother getting angry. Just let him sit around in his bison yellow underwear posting his "big 3" tripe. Hopefully FedEx will be there on time today with his meds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 He wants you to get angry. Don't let him. The people on the CS board know who he and what he is and deal with him on a daily basis. They debunk 99% of his posts. Don't bother getting angry. Just let him sit around in his bison yellow underwear posting his "big 3" tripe. Hopefully FedEx will be there on time today with his meds. I don't get angry. I already went into a bitching match with him on AGS long ago. Its funny how Lakes thinks that JBB is a Sioux fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 RIght now its a Dakota 3. UND is CURRENTLY the worst of the bunch but in time that can easily change. As for the gentleman who said that NDSU won't win a title because we schedule OOC at home, I'm not following your logic whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 RIght now its a Dakota 3. UND is CURRENTLY the worst of the bunch but in time that can easily change. As for the gentleman who said that NDSU won't win a title because we schedule OOC at home, I'm not following your logic whatsoever. I am making a reference to playing all your OOC games at home, and Bison Dan said it himself that Bison fans want all the OOC games at home, well if you want a national title...go on the road because the national title game will NOT be played in Fargo. What makes the criteria for this Dakota 3? FBS wins well that leaves SDSU out too, playoff wins, well that is only NDSU, total wins well both UND and USD have 15. So how is UND the worst since we lost only 1 game more than USD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I am making a reference to playing all your OOC games at home, and Bison Dan said it himself that Bison fans want all the OOC games at home, well if you want a national title...go on the road because the national title game will NOT be played in Fargo. What makes the criteria for this Dakota 3? FBS wins well that leaves SDSU out too, playoff wins, well that is only NDSU, total wins well both UND and USD have 15. So how is UND the worst since we lost only 1 game more than USD? It might not be in Fargo, but the road to it has led through Fargo many times and homefully many more. SDSU shut UND out last season? Yes. USD beat UND, Yes. NDSU beat each of those teams by multiple touchdowns. So as of last year, UND would have been easily considered the worst team in the Dakotas. Is it normally that way? No. Normally UND is pretty solid along with NDSU and SDSU and USD usually lags behind but right now, UND is the worst currently. It happens, I'm sure there has been years when NDSU has been the worst of the four too. Nothing to be TOO ashamed about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I am making a reference to playing all your OOC games at home, and Bison Dan said it himself that Bison fans want all the OOC games at home, well if you want a national title...go on the road because the national title game will NOT be played in Fargo. What makes the criteria for this Dakota 3? FBS wins well that leaves SDSU out too, playoff wins, well that is only NDSU, total wins well both UND and USD have 15. So how is UND the worst since we lost only 1 game more than USD? To win a national title, you need 7 DI wins to get into the playoffs. You also want to test yourself which can be easily accomplished by playing FBS teams (also OOC games, right) and playing in a strong conference. Home games pay the bills and support the athletic department, certainly thats not hard to understand. What are you complaining about again, most of this stuff is just facts. If ndsu played its 3 OOC games all at home, all against weaker teams (ala Montana for years), then I would be upset . . . but that's not the case. NDSU's OOC games were scheduled as MN(road), Georgia Southern and Lafayette, until GS backed out and handed over some money. Do you have a problem with MN, GS, and Lafayette? As for the four DI football teams from the dakotas . . . come on darell, just look at the product on the field. I've seen them all play, and you are not being very objective. Your squad easily has the most work to do coming out of your transition.. Not a dig, just an objective evaluation, however these things can change from year to year. One game or bad losses (everyone has had them) is not part of this evaluation. Maybe this will be the turn around year for your squad, maybe that starts tomorrow. Time for you to be objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Thanks for your interest in Sioux sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYOBISONMAN Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I am making a reference to playing all your OOC games at home, and Bison Dan said it himself that Bison fans want all the OOC games at home, well if you want a national title...go on the road because the national title game will NOT be played in Fargo. What makes the criteria for this Dakota 3? FBS wins well that leaves SDSU out too, playoff wins, well that is only NDSU, total wins well both UND and USD have 15. So how is UND the worst since we lost only 1 game more than USD? NDSU faces plenty of tough conference competition on the road. The OOC schedule is a revenue generator as well as giving the fans more games at home. Whether or not NDSU plays OOC games on the road really has nothing to do with post season success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 The Sioux would have KILLED the Bison had they played in '09. That '09 Bison team was an absolute joke (but in all fairness so was last year's Sioux team). :\ you sure about that? Pat Paschall, nation's leading rusher. UND may have been able to beat NDSU, maybe. But you think they'd KILL the Bison? Don't you got a few pizza's to deliver Dave? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Pat Paschall may have racked up a bunch of rushing yards, but the fact of the matter is that they were 3-8 (same as last year's Sioux team). They sucked big time. ...and what's this obsession with Bison fans thinking that I deliver pizzas? For the thousandth time, I do screen printing for a living but so what if I did deliver pizzas. What somebody does for a living has zero impact on the relevance of their opinion on sports. I don't know if Bison fans think they're going to make me angry with this constant accusation or if not what their motivation is. The truth is it does not make me angry. It only amuses me and in the process they're making themselves come off as elitist snobs. I respect someone who delivers my food. If only we can get burger joints to do the same. But remember about the 3-8 Bison they had close wins, and they should have won but...excuses. If UND would have won we would have heard we should have won but blah blah blah. That is what I heard on AGS and BVille all '09 season long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYOBISONMAN Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 LOL....Let's just agree that last years Sioux team and the 3-8 Bison team were nothing that any fan was very thrilled with...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 LOL....Let's just agree that last years Sioux team and the 3-8 Bison team were nothing that any fan was very thrilled with...... Here here!! And if history proves anything both teams will rebound nicely. NDSU did last year with a playoff run, and if UND can get past the FBS teams with even 1 win or close to it this team will show promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmail Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I'll be the first one in line to buy my ticket if the football game ever resumes. I'm not running with the "screw those guys/ we don't need them" croud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Pat Paschall may have racked up a bunch of rushing yards, but the fact of the matter is that they were 3-8 (same as last year's Sioux team). They sucked big time. ...and what's this obsession with Bison fans thinking that I deliver pizzas? For the thousandth time, I do screen printing for a living but so what if I did deliver pizzas. What somebody does for a living has zero impact on the relevance of their opinion on sports. I don't know if Bison fans think they're going to make me angry with this constant accusation or if not what their motivation is. The truth is it does not make me angry. It only amuses me and in the process they're making themselves come off as elitist snobs. 3-8 in the Valley vs. 3-8 in the Great West are two different animals. UND fans make themselves come off as elitist everytime they claim to be the "flagship." Both teams were bad, the '09 Bison and the '10 UND squad were both awful like WYO said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota fairways Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Pat Paschall may have racked up a bunch of rushing yards, but the fact of the matter is that they were 3-8 (same as last year's Sioux team). They sucked big time. ...and what's this obsession with Bison fans thinking that I deliver pizzas? For the thousandth time, I do screen printing for a living but so what if I did deliver pizzas. What somebody does for a living has zero impact on the relevance of their opinion on sports. I don't know if Bison fans think they're going to make me angry with this constant accusation or if not what their motivation is. The truth is it does not make me angry. It only amuses me and in the process they're making themselves come off as elitist snobs. sorry i already gave a + today so couldn't + rep you to offset the 2 bison rubes who neg'd you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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